C-17 Lands at Wrong Airport

[Azimuth]

It's just crazy that something like that could happen with an aircraft with not one, but two, Flight Engineers on board. Unfathomable.

[matmacwc]

Nice, Zippy...go ahead and spread the "privileged use" re-creation around for more to see.

Its factual with no analysis, legal....I think.

[HU&W]

Its factual with no analysis, legal....I think.

There's a no disclosure statement at 2:46.

[Butters]

Its factual with no analysis, legal....I think.

There is analysis...it starts at 0:42. So, not legal.

Edited February 5, 2013 by Butters

[BQZip01]

Nice, Zippy...go ahead and spread the "privileged use" re-creation around for more to see.

It's on youtube. Posting a link to youtube doesn't spread it around more. It's not like I made a copy and showed my wife (like an unnamed aviator)

Edited February 5, 2013 by BQZip01

[WABoom]

Not sure who put it on Youtube, but the For Official Use Only Statement at the end pretty much sums it up.

[RASH]

It's on youtube. Posting a link to youtube doesn't spread it around more. It's not like I made a copy and showed my wife (like an unnamed aviator)

Because no one who used your link was opening it for the first time...

[WABoom]

"They don't like listening to enlisted guys so that's why they never spoke up." I was slightly offended, but I really couldn't disagree.

This is why I love flying on the KC-135. Pretty tight crews, sts, and we work very well together. Officers and Enlisted are on the same page and if something needs to be said, we speak up without hesitation.

I'm just glad no one died and that this turned into a great CRM lesson for all crew members.

[JarheadBoom]

Not sure if Gen Mattis did anything for the crew behind the scenes...

Rumor here at the Quagmire is that he went to bat for the crew in a BIG way... and hit a grand slam.

[Prozac]

.......if something needs to be said, we speak up without hesitation.

Shut it boom.

[GBock]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....we speak up without hesitation.

Blah blah blah blah blah.

Doesn't mean we're listening.

[Techsan]

Doesn't mean we're listening.

Exactly.

[WABoom]

"Go Around" seems to work every time. Just sayin

[Buddy Spike]

"Go Around" seems to work every time. Just sayin

I thought with the FAA's "sterile cockpit" rules, flight attendants weren't allowed in the cockpit during takeoff and landing?

[WABoom]

LOL

[Seriously]

Because no one who used your link was opening it for the first time...

[pcola]

My airline used that Youtube video as a CRM case study example during a class last month. Complete with remarks from the civilians such as "I heard those pilots were asshole Colonels," "They don't get to fly much since they're C-5 guys," "They don't like listening to enlisted guys so that's why they never spoke up." I was slightly offended, but I really couldn't disagree.

I don't know about these particular dudes, but not generally the case in the C-5 community. We fly a lot, and we always listen to a good engineer. Loads...meh.

"Go Around" seems to work every time. Just sayin

Wouldn't have worked in the C-5 crash.

[WABoom]

Touche

[LiquidSky]

C-17s at it again.

https://kfor.com/news/local/stillwater-regional-airport-runway-damaged-due-to-unauthorized-military-aircraft-landing/

[brabus]

How does this happen - so many means to validate you’re at the correct airport and runway. But I guess they’ll have a juicy TMAAT/lesson learned story ready to go for their airline interviews!

Edited December 22, 2022 by brabus

[uhhello]

31 minutes ago, LiquidSky said:

C-17s at it again.

https://kfor.com/news/local/stillwater-regional-airport-runway-damaged-due-to-unauthorized-military-aircraft-landing/

Crazy, media got it wrong I think.  Read a correction somewhere and can't find it now.  The type of gear setup on a C17 puts it well within the weight limits for the field apparently.  Also, AF is claiming they DID have a PPR.  Who knows.  This is a towered field though and the aircraft landed during manned hours. 

Edited December 22, 2022 by uhhello

[uhhello]

"They indicate not only was the aircraft within weight limits for triple-tandem landing gear, but that the flight was coordinated five days in advance. The airport reported taxiway damage to the unit and not runway damage. The image you have shown is a light off the edge of the runway to taxiway on Taxiway A. The 310k lbs listed is for dual-tandem landing gear and not the higher weight capable triple-tandem."

[LiquidSky]

10 minutes ago, uhhello said:

Crazy, media got it wrong I think.  

Disregard then. I'm not shocked with how often they get anything aviation wrong. It was a completely believable story though 🤣

[Danger41]

Sounds like the good people of Stillwater wanted a new runway and saw Uncle Sugar as a way to get there.

[Majestik Møøse]

I’ve had to walk Airfield Managers through their own pubs to figure out weight bearing capacity twice. They no shit had no idea what their taxiways were good for. I’m guessing there’s a good chance the Stillwater manager thought he was ok until he wasn’t. Keep those emails, kids.