pawnman Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Don't know if we need more, but glad to see they're rolling in the other 1/2 the population that gets raped. This is like having to listen to all the Domestic Violence stuff like it only happens to the females and a chick would never beat, scratch, destroy property, lie or otherwise destroy a man's like. That is a bonus. Fingers crossed it doesn't make SAPR training twice as long.
Guest Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Once again, the DOD and AF go full-bore with the Sex Assault PR blitz:https://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=128717https://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=128718https://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=128720https://www.af.mil/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=JeKuAb7IGA8%3d&portalid=1×tamp=1429708748989https://www.af.mil/News/Commentaries/Display/tabid/271/Article/583583/sexual-assault-prevention-moving-beyond-awareness.aspxhttps://www.af.mil/News/Commentaries/Display/tabid/271/Article/583325/preventing-sexual-assault-in-the-air-force-is-our-enduring-responsibility.aspxhttps://sapr.mil/public/docs/reports/FY14_Annual/FY14_Annual_Report_SecDef_Memo_Initiatives.pdf This was all from a new report made public today:https://sapr.mil/public/docs/reports/FY14_Annual/FY14_DoD_SAPRO_Annual_Report_Executive_Summary.pdf And because of all that, the public and reporters interpret it to this lovely news story:https://bigstory.ap.org/article/4966dd11c5b7440eb88bc0374b22a986/pentagon-grapples-retaliation-sex-assault-casesIt's not against the law or military regulations to choose not to sit with someone in the dining hall or to unfriend them on Facebook, but in the traumatic aftermath of a sexual assault, a victim could interpret those moves as retaliation. In these days when a tweet or Instagram photo can be wielded as weapons, the Pentagon is struggling to define retaliation and rein in bullying or other behavior that victims perceive as vengeful. At the same time, military leaders are expanding efforts to better train their lower and mid-level commanders to detect and deal with retaliation, while also insuring that other, more innocent actions are not misinterpreted by assault victims. […] Last December, the RAND survey estimated that 62 percent of sexual assault victims believed they faced some type of professional retaliation, social ostracism, adverse administrative action or punishment. […] According to survey data, many of the women said the retaliation came in the form of social backlash from co-workers or other service members.ZOMG guise, intrnt is srs business. Twitter is a weapon. Facebook unfriending is retaliation. Please excuse me while I polish my armor and brush my horse so I can be a good Airman and meet the White Knight standard.
guineapigfury Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Once again, the DOD and AF go full-bore with the Sex Assault PR blitz:https://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=128717https://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=128718https://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=128720https://www.af.mil/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=JeKuAb7IGA8%3d&portalid=1×tamp=1429708748989https://www.af.mil/News/Commentaries/Display/tabid/271/Article/583583/sexual-assault-prevention-moving-beyond-awareness.aspxhttps://www.af.mil/News/Commentaries/Display/tabid/271/Article/583325/preventing-sexual-assault-in-the-air-force-is-our-enduring-responsibility.aspxhttps://sapr.mil/public/docs/reports/FY14_Annual/FY14_Annual_Report_SecDef_Memo_Initiatives.pdf This was all from a new report made public today:https://sapr.mil/public/docs/reports/FY14_Annual/FY14_DoD_SAPRO_Annual_Report_Executive_Summary.pdf And because of all that, the public and reporters interpret it to this lovely news story:https://bigstory.ap.org/article/4966dd11c5b7440eb88bc0374b22a986/pentagon-grapples-retaliation-sex-assault-casesZOMG guise, intrnt is srs business. Twitter is a weapon. Facebook unfriending is retaliation. Please excuse me while I polish my armor and brush my horse so I can be a good Airman and meet the White Knight standard. According to AFPC we are at 169% manning for White Knights, however the opportunity to crosstrain into the Social Justice Warrior AFSC remains. 2
Day Man Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 According to AFPC we are at 169% manning for White Knights, however the opportunity to crosstrain into the Social Justice Warrior AFSC remains. Different pots of money!
pawnman Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) Excerpt; The Dyess Air Force Base outside Abilene hired a touring speaker to deliver three sessions of a program called "May I Kiss You?" aimed at teaching men about consent and sexual assault prevention. The program uses humor to help boys and men understand when it is appropriate to make sexual advances on a woman. This training seems to be very discriminatory. What about some training for heterosexual women kissing/making sexual advances on heterosexual men? What about some training for lesbians kissing/making sexual advances on other lesbians? What about some training for gay men kissing/making sexual advances on other gay men? What about some training for bisexuals kissing/making sexual advances on members of all the different gender identity types? What about some training for transgender members kissing/making sexual advances on whatever the hell they kiss/make sexual advances on? Wow...I deployed just in time. Obviously, what's needed in these situations are chaperones. Because I am a gentlemen, scholar, and patriot, I volunteer to keep an eye on all these lesbians kissing and making sexual advances on each other. -2. In case they need chaperones in more than one location. According to AFPC we are at 169% manning for White Knights, however the opportunity to crosstrain into the Social Justice Warrior AFSC remains. Is SJW an AFSC, or additional duty? Asking for a friend... Edited May 13, 2015 by pawnman
Guest Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/hearings/15-05-12-live-webcast-of-the-markup-for-the-subcommittee-on-personnel-fy-2016https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/15-57%20-%205-12-15.pdfSen. Gillibrand: So in this mark we are going to [...] encourage military leaders to refrain from punishing sexual assault survivors for minor charges, like underage drinking, when that information comes as a result of reporting an assault [...]Am I the only one that thinks this is an insane double-standard? I understand the concern for lowering barriers to reporting sexual assaults/rape, however I can't imagine how this will be fairly implemented, or reconciling the high potential for abuse of policy through self-shielding in the new anti-retaliation theme.
pawnman Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/hearings/15-05-12-live-webcast-of-the-markup-for-the-subcommittee-on-personnel-fy-2016https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/15-57%20-%205-12-15.pdf Am I the only one that thinks this is an insane double-standard? I understand the concern for lowering barriers to reporting sexual assaults/rape, however I can't imagine how this will be fairly implemented, or reconciling the high potential for abuse of policy through self-shielding in the new anti-retaliation theme. I had thought this was already the case. One does wonder if it will lead to more false reporting in order to escape punishment for things like underage drinking, drug use, or other infractions. On the other hand, I definitely would prefer we let people off the hook for relatively minor infractions in order to catch sexual predators. I'm open to suggestions on how to walk that line without creating an incentive for false reporting.
Royal Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 I'm open to suggestions on how to walk that line without creating an incentive for false reporting. The only thing that will work for sure is a mandatory raper CBT every time a user logs on to a CAC enabled computer. People will be so busy doing the CBT, they won't have time to sexually assault anyone.
xaarman Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 The problem is disproportionate punishment for underage drinking. On base driving suspension, career implications, LoRs, etc. One crime Air Force, I can completely understand the victims mindset here. On the other hand, I definitely would prefer we let people off the hook for relatively minor infractions in order to catch sexual predators. I'm open to suggestions on how to walk that line without creating an incentive for false reporting. 2. 1
Flaco Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 What I find ironic is that the extremely annoying, over-the-top focus on SARC has actually undermined the integration of women into the military. The men in my squadron typically stay as far away from the women as possible and walk on eggshells when they are around lest one of us be hit by a SARC-2000 from close range for having a penis. Great for camaraderie. 5
SuperWSO Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Don't forget SARC is all aspect, BVR and has a very high career Pk. See and avoid is ineffective. 2
Fuzz Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 What I find ironic is that the extremely annoying, over-the-top focus on SARC has actually undermined the integration of women into the military. The men in my squadron typically stay as far away from the women as possible and walk on eggshells when they are around lest one of us be hit by a SARC-2000 from close range for having a penis. Great for camaraderie. JQP with great timing, nails it again:https://www.jqpublicblog.com/one-airmans-view-open-letter-to-the-sarc/
Flaco Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 Don't forget SARC is all aspect, BVR and has a very high career Pk. See and avoid is ineffective.It also has a questionable ID matrix and often shoots down friendlies. 3
di1630 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Posted May 28, 2015 This guys story to crime began with subtle jokes in UPT, escalated when he listened to a Beatles song, quickly putting him across the "red line" into "I wanna bone a 13-yr old being pimped out by her dad." Where was his wingman? What could we as the USAF have done better to prevent this. Maybe it was the mermaid handled beer mug, WW2 nose art, song books or the sports illustrated swimsuit issue. Most likely though, it was Yoga pants. No more yoga pants in base gyms. 1
Fud Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 No more yoga pants in base gyms. Is this a rule at some bases now? According to Reddit.com and other websites "Stare Rape" is a real thing. I kid you not. 1
Guest Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Anybody at Hawaii know anything about this one? U.S. v. Colonel D JAMES / Type of Court-Martial: General Court-Martial / Location: Hickam AFB, Hawaii / Projected Trial Start Date: 26-0ct-2015 Estimated Trial End Date: 31-0ct-2015 / Offense(s) Charged: Article 120, Rape of a child, 12 to 16 years of age
Disregard Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 https://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/06/08/reserve-colonel-facing-child-rape-charges/28678233/
10percenttruth Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 https://youtu.be/td1PbsV6B80 So this is the current SAPR message, discuss. IMHO, they've gotten slightly better than the "you're a man, therefore a rapist" message of a few years ago, but there's still a huge logical (fallacy) leap in place that ties any male mindset to that of an anti-female mindset. It's complete horseshit, but this seems to be the official party line. 1
Guest Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 https://youtu.be/td1PbsV6B80 That was a fabulous message that I'm sure many men should hear and it can resonate with them, but it had almost zero similarities to my childhood and adolescence. The country is very diverse and still culturally conflicted. I have a hard time personally relating and fully empathizing with that kind of upbringing because it is so exotic and deeply conflicts with the values and morals from my community. So a great message for some, but it also implies that most men live inside that man box along with it's ramifications. And that's intensely insulting to me.
10percenttruth Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 That was a fabulous message that I'm sure many men should hear and it can resonate with them, but it had almost zero similarities to my childhood and adolescence. The country is very diverse and still culturally conflicted. I have a hard time personally relating and fully empathizing with that kind of upbringing because it is so exotic and deeply conflicts with the values and morals from my community. So a great message for some, but it also implies that most men live inside that man box along with it's ramifications. And that's intensely insulting to me. Exactly The problem is, they're still speaking to the lowest common denominator in the room, which insults the intelligence of the rest of the moral, non-rapists in the force. I'm just getting very tired of the "man is evil, and all manly things are bad for women" mentality.
10percenttruth Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 You're just mansplaining. Stop oppressing me, bro
Guest Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) I watched this today as part of my forced reeducation.https://youtu.be/6iB4BpWM_34 The "Patriarchy" part of the logo at the beginning eliminated any possible credibility of the video. Trigger warning: it's pretty retarded. Edited July 24, 2015 by deaddebate
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