Taxes, the Deficit/Debt, and the Fiscal Cliff

[Buddy Spike]

I'm pretty sure it's this guy-

Funny, except these are actual Obama voters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gXOV_XWJck

[matmacwc]

This is really happening

[Day Man]

"different pots of money" bullshit.

[matmacwc]

"different pots of money" bullshit.

All from one pot eventually

[Fuzz]

"different pots of money voters" bullshit.

FIFY

[morenoj135]

I had the chance to ask the Lt Governor about this and he was of the opinion that by doing this (illegals pay in state tuition) they could then afford to go to college and become more productive; besides, it would fill up the seats that are currently going unfilled. I asked him who would make up the cost difference (increased enrollment means increased operating costs currently not fully covered by tuition). His response - there is no increase in costs, no one will pay. My response - so why then am I looking at a 9% increase in the tuition I pay CSU? Response - crickets.

The man sure talked purty but in the end said very little. It is all about buying the hispanic vote, and recently it goes very cheap

[Motrin]

Funny, except these are actual Obama voters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gXOV_XWJck

Yeah, those idiots in the video put their college government subsidized financial aid to good use.

[Buddy Spike]

Alright one, what's fringe about this?

[HU&W]

President to propose $2B diversion of funding from fuel producers to alternative energy research.

Edited March 15, 2013 by HU&W

[338skybolt]

Alright one, what's fringe about this?

To the libs, if you're not a RINO, you're "fringe" or an "extremist".

[Buddy Spike]

[lloyd christmas]

https://swampland.time.com/2013/05/10/irs-admits-targeting-conservative-groups-over-tax-status/

[Homestar]

I blame George W. Bush, personally.

[HeloDude]

[HeloDude]

So according to Bill Maher (people can call him a comedian all they want, but he's very much a political influence on the left), redistribution of wealth is a good thing because it keeps the poor people from kidnapping you. And here I thought redistribution was so that Democrats could have more votes?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/12/maher_if_youre_rich_you_should_be_begging_the_government_to_redistribute_your_wealth.html

[matmacwc]

I think I can speak for a decisive majority of the voting public when I say that we all hope this is the future 2016 Republican Presidental nominee.

Seriously, the current version of the GOP might be the most pathetically incompetent version in its 150+ year history. Yeah, even worse than the post depression era.

That is the smartest, most articulate thing I have EVER seen from you. It makes me wonder about your motives, are you being serious? I hope, my worry is that you want this so Hillary/Joe might win in the event you want the conservatives (notice I didn't say Republican) to loose. Wish I would have seen this a few months ago.

Edited June 11, 2013 by matmacwc

[Fuzz]

Well I believe we are beginning to understand why the democrats suck with money...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLbzEvzOBbU

[Fuzz]

Detroit Defaults:

https://www.breitbart.../wire/DA6TMNC00

And its no surprise given who is running it:

ETA: what happened to the constitutional thread?

Edited June 16, 2013 by Fuzz

[Seriously]

Detroit Defaults:

https://www.breitbart.../wire/DA6TMNC00

And its no surprise given who is running it:

ETA: what happened to the constitutional thread?

That same woman later went to prison on bribery charges.

[10percenttruth]

ETA: what happened to the constitutional thread?

It was torpedoed by a bipolar asshammer. Should return to normal soon.

[Fuzz]

It was torpedoed by a bipolar asshammer. Should return to normal soon.

An ok just wanted to make sure the NSA hadn't blocked me from viewing it.

[HeloDude]

Thread revival...

Any of you guys paying attention to what's going on with regards to the latest in the fiscal fiasco in Greece? Thoughts on what will or should happen?

[TreeA10]

Entitlements will consume 75% of incoming dollars here by 2031, 100% by 2051. Greece might be a glimpse into the future for us.

[HeloDude]

Entitlements will consume 75% of incoming dollars here by 2031, 100% by 2051. Greece might be a glimpse into the future for us.

I agree for the most part...

But what do you think will happen in Greece? Will the Greeks reject the IMF proposals? Will they get kicked off the Euro? How will this affect the rest of the countries on the Euro as well as the U.S. Dollar, the Pound, etc?

[guineapigfury]

Greece also has a tax evasion problem on an absurd scale in addition to their out of control spending. There seems to be no appetite for addressing it. Blaming the Germans for not bailing them out seems to be the preferred solution. In short, they're fucked. We have a spending problem, primarily driven by Social Security and healthcare (obamacare, medicare, and chip) both at about 24% of the budget apiece. SS is simple to fix, index it to inflation instead of providing cost of living adjustments. This makes sense, but old folks oppose it so it's nearly impossible politically. How you drive down healthcare costs, I do not know. European countries get better healthcare results than us at a significantly lower price, so we should probably look into whatever it is they are doing. But we probably won't. In short, we're fucked as well.