kchsload Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 A classic case of when one (or a few in this case) of us shlts our pants, we're all wearing diapers. Have to admit though, recent incidents involving US mil personal seems to be getting out of hand. Sucks to be there. https://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2012/12/03/after-hours-prohibition-u-s-military-tightens-drinking-rules-in-japan/?mod=WSJ_hp_Asia_EditorsPicks
dream big Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 On top of this every military member in Japan enjoys a daily curfew from 11pm to 6am. Coupled with the flying situation, Yokota, from being one of the best flying assignments in the AF, is on it's way to becoming one of the crappiest. Cheers!
RAMurai Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 At Misawa, no one can be without a "wingman" off base after 8PM. If you live off base, you'd better be home by 8 if you're single. Public consumption of alcohol is prohibited after 9PM, both on and off base. Even the club and the squadron bar. I'm guessing that the next incident will bring GO1. I'm really sorry to say this, but stand by for the holiday-related suicide stand-downs. The holiday mood is not festive.
brabus Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Ram, you need me to ship a bunch of reserve booze from the states? I fear the next step is GO1 like you said, and with that, no buying booze allowed. I don't even want to imagine that purgatory.
RAMurai Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Fortunately, I keep a couple generals of Jack behind a glass window that I can break in the event of an emergency GO1. But yeah, start shipping that stuff in. We need to start smuggling booze like it's moonshine.
billy pilgrim Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 If the cause of this was an alleged rape - maybe the DOD should prohibit sex (both consensual and non consensual), like in theater. Problem solved. I predict an increase in roll calls and hopefully stateside TDYs?
contraildash Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Has the AF ever been the perp in any of these incidents? Seems like you always see the USMC on these headlines.
Prozac Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Navy had the most current one. I think all the Japanese care about is that it was an American serviceman.
brabus Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Fortunately, I keep a couple generals of Jack behind a glass window that I can break in the event of an emergency GO1. Good plan, unfortunately that'll last the neighborhood about 6-9 min. We're all fucked! I think Rainman's on to something though...who has a bathtub we can use?
Clayton Bigsby Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 If the cause of this was an alleged rape - maybe the DOD should prohibit sex (both consensual and non consensual), like in theater. Problem solved. End effective 100% of the time!!! Yup Lyndie England in all her post-Abu-Gharaib hawtness.
DirkDiggler Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 At Misawa, no one can be without a "wingman" off base after 8PM. If you live off base, you'd better be home by 8 if you're single. Public consumption of alcohol is prohibited after 9PM, both on and off base. Even the club and the squadron bar. I'm guessing that the next incident will bring GO1. I'm really sorry to say this, but stand by for the holiday-related suicide stand-downs. The holiday mood is not festive. We were briefed yesterday that one more incident will bring GO1, total lockdown where you're only allowed to travel between home and work. One of the other sqs in our group is on this total lockdown now cause they had a curfew violation this weekend. The locals were already fired up about the MV-22s arriving on island, these incidents are just added fuel to the fire.
abmwaldo Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 [sarcasm on] I thought we were shifting all non Air Force personnel to Guam which will cause it to [sarcasm off] 1
Fuzz Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 [sarcasm on] I thought we were shifting all non Air Force personnel to Guam which will cause it to [sarcasm off] Major props to that Admiral.
17D_guy Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Wife's out there now and hating it... Saw this one come across the wire, laughed my ass off. https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/okinawa/kadena-airman-suspected-in-after-curfew-assault-on-okinawa-teen-1.195627 Police were called to a Yomitan Village pub to deal with an American who had become “rowdy and uncontrollable” after a number of drinks, according to an Okinawa prefectural police spokesman. Police were told that just before their arrival, a white male allegedly entered an unlocked third-floor apartment in the building that housed the bar, punched a sleeping 13-year-old boy in the face and kicked over a television. Residents told police the intruder then fell from the third floor. There are conflicting reports about whether he fell from the window or a balcony.
Prozac Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Anybody know what the current ROE are for transient crews at Iwakuni?
matmacwc Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) It's the Marines, make a logical decision, go with it, they will respect you for being an officer, end of story. And if you take blues on the road, shack yourself. Edited December 5, 2012 by matmacwc
busdriver Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 If you want to avoid this shit storm, learn how to interact with the locals and avoid the traditional American hangouts. I've sang Karaoke and drank well past curfew in a Japanese dive bar only a couple blocks from my house (granted I lived in a mostly Japanese area, far from Sunabe) and had a blast doing it, and there wasn't any mention of town patrol anywhere in sight. Get away from Gate 2 street, and even further get away from Sunabe. Learn a tiny bit of Japanese and party it up across the red bridge. 1
WeatherManC130 Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 If you want to avoid this shit storm, learn how to interact with the locals and avoid the traditional American hangouts. I've sang Karaoke and drank well past curfew in a Japanese dive bar only a couple blocks from my house (granted I lived in a mostly Japanese area, far from Sunabe) and had a blast doing it, and there wasn't any mention of town patrol anywhere in sight. Get away from Gate 2 street, and even further get away from Sunabe. Learn a tiny bit of Japanese and party it up across the red bridge. commencing IP tracking sequence...JK. I agree with you, it is always the 1% of people that cause heartache for the rest of us. People seem to forget they are in another country. Learn their customs and make some friends!
guineapigfury Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 So glad I don't work there anymore. And yes, avoiding your countrymen seems to be the best way of staying out of trouble, unfortunately.
busdriver Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 All it really comes down to is being a local whatever that means in your AO. Where I lived that meant riding a bicycle from pub to pub and hanging with the locals. Some of the best fun I had in Okinawa was just hanging in the local Izakaya.
Blue Scourge Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Hard to believe it has gotten this crazy, GO1 in Japan will be an absolute nightmare.
kchsload Posted December 5, 2012 Author Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) This isn't just a problem in the military. When I lived in Beijing there where tons of cases of foreigners abusing the locals, for example: To make things worse the locals were already pissed at prior incident a week before but granted, he got what he probably deserved.The girl's saying "I don't want it" and "I don't know him" in the beginning." After the beat down they're saying "fu*k you're mother," and calling him "his mothers c*nt" among other things. Difference here is he's not there representing his country per se. He was arrested and deported a week or two later. Edited December 5, 2012 by kchsload
RAMurai Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Good plan, unfortunately that'll last the neighborhood about 6-9 min. We're all ######ed! I think Rainman's on to something though...who has a bathtub we can use? I've already started. Tastes funny, but makes ya feel good. Just like my other favorite thing in the world.
Wolf424 Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) Has the AF ever been the perp in any of these incidents? Seems like you always see the USMC on these headlines. The guy who punched the 13 year old kid in the face? An Airman. (rumor has it that it was a 2LT...take that for what it's worth as the rumor mill has been in full swing since the curfew) https://www.stripes.c...a-teen-1.195627 Anybody know what the current ROE are for transient crews at Iwakuni? Not sure for Iwakuni...but here at Yokota, all military (to include transients) are under the 2300-0500 curfew. If you try to leave base outside of those times, the cops stop you at the gate and question you. Life in Japan is slowly becoming more like that of South Korea. Edited December 5, 2012 by Wolf424
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