ClearedHot Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 https://news.yahoo.com/obama-tough-call-letting-son-play-football-134811632--spt.html
Butters Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Yup, they start by taking the guns, then football... Christmas is next.
Marco Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I can say with absolute certainty that my conscience is clear every time I watch a game. However the fog of beer and chicken wings generally sets in and I'm in a comfortable unconscious state by the end of the day. But my conscience is still clear and content with the decision I made. :)
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I love a good nanny state. All my worries about the decisions I might have to make about my own well being are just melting away!
guineapigfury Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I played football in college. I'm 33, and 1 each of my knees and shoulders are code 2, my back hurts daily, and it's possible that my frequent foul moods stem from repeated blows to the head. It was worth it. 3
BQZip01 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Thank god smoking and drinking are still legal...
matmacwc Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 And they say the Republicans say no to everything?
Fuzz Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 The House is an impediment to his agenda and prevents the American people from getting what they want. The Senate is an impediment to his agenda and prevents the American people from getting what they want. The Media is an impediment to his agenda and prevents the American people from getting what they want. He requires more executive power to give the American people what they want. Scary shit. EDIT: I seem to remember he isn't too keen on the other branch of government, either. No you missed what he was saying, its anyone in those areas that disagrees with him (which is why he mentioned FOX news, Rush Limbaugh and the GOP), and therefore because they disagree with him, he needs more executive power and then he'll fix all the world's problems. Remember its only judicial activism or being an obstructionist when it stops his agenda.
Dupe Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 ... and therefore because they disagree with him, he needs more executive power and then he'll fix all the world's problems Pretty much every sitting President since FDR, regardless of party, seems to have attempted expanded executive power in one arena or another. Examples from both sides include Truman nationalizing the steel industry, Nixon's invasion of Cambodia, Iran Contra, Clinton's perverse idea of "Executive Privilage" during the Whitewater investigation, and the torture and extraordinary rendition of detainees during the Bush administration. If anything, I don't think there has been a gross violation of executive power by Obama yet. Doesn't mean it won't happen...a President's second term is where most of these shenanigans occur. I do find it interesting that Senator Obama ran on a premise of "open government" in 2008. Now, I don't think President Obama believes in executive openness nearly as much. 1
JS Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 I played football in college. I'm 33, and 1 each of my knees and shoulders are code 2, my back hurts daily, and it's possible that my frequent foul moods stem from repeated blows to the head. It was worth it. Ha. Funny analogy. For comparison, I did not play football in high school or college and being in my mid-30s, I have many of the same problems. Right knee has been A3 three times for surgery. Back is A2 most of the time, and left knee and right shoulder are intermittent at best. So maybe football doesn't have anything do to with pain later in life. Maybe it is just getting old that does that.
O Face Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 I played football in college. I'm 33, and 1 each of my knees and shoulders are code 2, my back hurts daily, and it's possible that my frequent foul moods stem from repeated blows to the head. It was worth it. Same here...Also, I must have been absent everytime they came in and held a gun to my head forcing me to play football. Pretty sure Seau could have walked away anytime he wanted to as well.
Fuzz Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Come on with Obamacare now passed, gotta keep the system afloat, which means no unnecessary risks to peoples health because that gets expensive. Wouldn't be surprised if you started seeing insurance companies make you fill out "high-risk activity" forms.
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Come on with Obamacare now passed, gotta keep the system afloat, which means no unnecessary risks to peoples health because that gets expensive. Wouldn't be surprised if you started seeing insurance companies make you fill out "high-risk activity" forms. I heard they are going to implement waist measurements for insurance applications 1
hispeed7721 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Come on with Obamacare now passed, gotta keep the system afloat, which means no unnecessary risks to peoples health because that gets expensive. Wouldn't be surprised if you started seeing insurance companies make you fill out "high-risk activity" forms. Everyone will have to fill out weekly 29Bravo's... :facepalm:
17D_guy Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 ...the torture and extraordinary rendition of detainees during the Bush administration. Not sure how this is an expansion of executive power along the lines of executive privilege, extended bombing, etc.
Dupe Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Not sure how this is an expansion of executive power along the lines of executive privilege, extended bombing, etc. Really? Maybe it's me...I find the Bush Administration's (and to be fair...the Clinton Administration's) disregard of due process, habeas corpus, and the treaties that we've signed and ratified to be quite worrying. Is it the same as bombing Cambodia? Maybe not....but our executive branch should not have the unchecked power to commit kidnapping and be an agent of torture on a global scale. It's definately more important to the American public discourse than the timing of the discovery for the Clinton's failed real estate deal. Hell, we once went to war with a superpower because they were kidnapping our citizens. 1
PapaJu Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Thank god smoking and drinking are still legal... Well, the President enjoys both.
Spoo Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) President Obama- "In some cases, that may make it a little bit less exciting, but it will be a whole lot better for the players, and those of us who are fans maybe won't have to examine our consciences quite as much." Apparently I'm either a shitty fan or I don't have a conscience, because I definitely do not feel guilty every time a guy takes a shot to the helmet. I played football in college. I'm 33, and 1 each of my knees and shoulders are code 2, my back hurts daily, and it's possible that my frequent foul moods stem from repeated blows to the head. It was worth it. Yeah, but according to the President you were not a "grown man" and you were incapable of "making decisions on your own". Oh yeah, you didn't have a union looking out for you either. You, my friend, are a victim. Edited February 5, 2013 by Spoo
kchsload Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) The House is an impediment to his agenda and prevents the American people from getting what they want. The Senate is an impediment to his agenda and prevents the American people from getting what they want. The Media is an impediment to his agenda and prevents the American people from getting what they want. He requires more executive power to give the American people what they want. Scary shit. I have no idea how you managed to turn those quotes of Obama's into, "###### the media and congress! Give me all the power!" Sounds like something Sean Hannity or other "Fair and Balanced" 'journalists' would say. Edited February 6, 2013 by kchsload
338skybolt Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 Sounds like something Sean Hannity or other "Fair and Balanced" 'journalists' would say. You mean like the ones on CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC and CNN?
kchsload Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) You mean like the ones on CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC and CNN? I'm not attempting to defend any news network. In my opinion, the sooner people wake up and realize that 24 hour, ideologically based "news" is not news at all, but highly opinionated pundits that are paid to pass along their views as "facts," the better off this country will be. Having said this, Fox seems to have the unique ability to misinform their viewers and actually make them stupider. [quote https://www.forbes.co...-poll-suggests/ Fox News Viewers Uninformed, NPR Listeners Not, Poll Suggests A poll by Farleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey showed that of all the news channels out there, Fox News viewers are the least informed. People were asked questions about news habits and current events in a statewide poll of 600 New Jersey residents recently. Results showed that viewers of Sunday morning news shows were the most informed about current events, while Fox News viewers were the least informed. In fact, FDU poll results showed they were even less informed than those who say they don’t watch any news at all. Readers of The New York Times, USA Today and listeners to National Public Radio were better informed about international events than other media outlets. In one major example, New Jersey poll participants were questioned about the outcome of the so-called Arab Spring uprisings in North Africa earlier in the year. A total of 53% of respondents know that Egyptians were successful in overthrowing dictator Hosni Mubarak. Also, 48% know that the Syrian uprising has thus far been unsuccessful in ousting Assad. But on balance, Fox News viewers were 18-points less likely to know that Egyptians overthrew their government than those who were not TV news viewers. Fox News viewers were also 6-points less likely to know that Syrians have not yet overthrown their government than those who watch no news, suggesting a daily dose of sound bytes from CNN at the gym, and headlines from GoogleNews were enough to surpass what average Fox viewers polled knew about current events. Fox News is the leading cable news channel. “Because of the controls for partisanship, we know these results are not just driven by Republicans or other groups being more likely to watch Fox News,” said Dan Cassino, a professor of political science at Fairleigh Dickinson and an analyst for the PublicMind Poll. “Rather, the results show us that there is something about watching Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don’t watch any news at all.” The kicker is that MSNBC didn’t do all that much better. In one question, some 11% of MSNBC viewers actually believed that Occupy Wall Streetprotesters were Republicans compared to just 3% of Fox viewers. “Ideological media does a very poor job overall,” Cassino told Forbes. “They don’t challenge people’s assumptions. In traditional news, you will find that more often than not, there actually is a correct answer and there is no gray area. People who tune into ideological media are motivated to hear their side of the debate and so you can have someone who watches MSNBC be so used to hearing about protests coming from the right that they automatically believe that Occupy is mostly a Republican protest.” Occupy Wall Street leaders are not in support of any political party. On international news, Fox viewers were by far the least likely to know that the Egyptian protests led to the resignation of Hosni Mubarek, followed by MSNBC in a distant second for least informed. See: Some News Leaves People Knowing Less–Farleigh Dickinson University, poll results and methodology] Edited February 7, 2013 by kchsload
HeloDude Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 So I watch Fox News...am I 'stupid' or misinformed? Or is it that there are plenty of stupid and misinformed people in our country, regardless of where they receive their news source? Just because students fail a college class doesn't mean that the course material isn't being delivered in a factual and effective way. Just to add...though Fox is the only news source I watch on TV (and I only watch certain programs as there is still a lot of crap on the network), I receive my news from several different sources...even some of those on the left. 1
338skybolt Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 ideologically based "news" is not news at all, but highly opinionated pundits that are paid to pass along their views as "facts," The same could be said for pollsters. In this case, they sampled 612 people in NJ and claim this is representative of Fox viewers nationwide. I get your distaste for ideological news sources (I hope you put the ones I've listed above into that bucket as well), but don't put your faith in polls either.
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