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On 10/5/2022 at 10:08 PM, ThreeHoler said:

Reserve squadrons will shutter and the base will become AD/ANG associate like Pease.


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What’s happening with the AFRC units personnel who just went through BTX/PTX? 

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13 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

What’s happening with the AFRC units personnel who just went through BTX/PTX? 

Remember that scene from Casino where they drive Joe Pesci out to the cornfield?

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On 10/8/2022 at 3:42 PM, Sua Sponte said:

What’s happening with the AFRC units personnel who just went through BTX/PTX? 

They don't know. Some are looking into different units.

 

On 10/10/2022 at 7:27 PM, skybert said:

Dumb question.

 What are the differences between the KC-46 and the KC-767?

 I haven’t heard any bad things about the ‘67

All of the airframes have the passenger windows on them just covered up, the boom is more like the KC-135 boom (KC-46 boom is more like the KC-10).   Some of the Japanese pilots i've talked to say that they can't offload as much fuel as the 46 for weight reasons I think.  The integrated mission systems on the 46 are another difference.  

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On 10/11/2022 at 2:27 AM, skybert said:

I haven’t heard any bad things about the ‘67

Partner Nations (PN) operating the -767 don't have extensive inventory of attack, strategic, and tactical assets the U.S. operates. PNs make due with what they have, meanwhile the USAF via bureaucracy, ensures their tankers are fully interoperable with the entire DoD fleet before praising their new tanker.

Its the tradeoff of efficiency vs. resiliency. 

Or, it is classic government logic, let's not declare our new tanker asset IOC until it is technically compatible with the asset we want to retire (i.e. A-10).

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1 hour ago, AC&W said:

Partner Nations (PN) operating the -767 don't have extensive inventory of attack, strategic, and tactical assets the U.S. operates. PNs make due with what they have, meanwhile the USAF via bureaucracy, ensures their tankers are fully interoperable with the entire DoD fleet before praising their new tanker.

Its the tradeoff of efficiency vs. resiliency. 

Or, it is classic government logic, let's not declare our new tanker asset IOC until it is technically compatible with the asset we want to retire (i.e. A-10).

I was curious about that. How could that be the case with the A-10? Isn’t the receptacle standardized (STS) across the fleet? Therefore if it works on a F-16 or B-1, why wouldn’t it work on A-10?

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I was curious about that. How could that be the case with the A-10? Isn’t the receptacle standardized (STS) across the fleet? Therefore if it works on a F-16 or B-1, why wouldn’t it work on A-10?

More to do with the low speed aircraft/boom performance envelope there.
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6 hours ago, Orbit said:

They don't know. Some are looking into different units.

 

All of the airframes have the passenger windows on them just covered up, the boom is more like the KC-135 boom (KC-46 boom is more like the KC-10).   Some of the Japanese pilots i've talked to say that they can't offload as much fuel as the 46 for weight reasons I think.  The integrated mission systems on the 46 are another difference.  

The 767 carries one more pallet (19) than a -46, more pax (around 200 I think), and doesn't have the built in AE capability.

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14 hours ago, SurelySerious said:


More to do with the low speed aircraft/boom performance envelope there.

That's not true. It has to do with the boom stiffness. 

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That's not true. It has to do with the boom stiffness. 

And the ability of one aircraft to perform enough to be compatible? Seems like it’s still a performance envelope problem. Also that boom isn’t stiff it’s on a ing ratchet.
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I’d be more concerned about the fact that the W&B software can’t use the full CG envelope so the jet basically can’t carry cargo. RIP big sexy and your 175K cargo capacity!


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Sounds like the AF didn’t pay enough money to unlock the WB software.
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6 hours ago, SurelySerious said:


Sounds like the AF didn’t pay enough money to unlock the WB software.

They paid for the software, they failed to properly articulate the requirement, and/or perform quality control on the product delivered. #operatorsinacquisition 

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