London military public slaying

[Mark1]

So...being in the US is just like being in a third-world country experiencing genocidal civil war? I'm not going to argue the merits or faults of Helodude's post, because your own statements are pretty idiotic in their own right. And no, I'm not giving up my guns because you or anyone else says so.

Try as you might, but middle class law-abiding gun owners are not the source of violence. Maybe if we stopped pretending that they are the root of our violence problem and stopped praising and encouraging gang and "thug" culture, we might get somewhere.

I found it highly frustrating that our president spoke as if my guns and my friends guns are the problem while he hosts people like Jay Z at the WH, rapping gems like this:

The vast majority of gun violence is caused by illegal handguns, perpetrated by gangs in inner cities. I'm sure British-style gun laws will make them behave.

Good lord...is this serious? I don't even know what to say. Is there some sort of collective defense pact within the rotary community that obligated you to attempt to defend the indefensible here? Please explain to me where, in anything that I said, I made reference to anything regarding gun control or a desire to ban/limit guns or gun violence, or anything even remotely of the sort. I suppose my advice to 'READ THE REPORTS' for someone who's going to use them as evidence of something might not be sufficient if reading comprehension doesn't inherently go along with it.

I'm sorry that you believe elementary level statistical comparison is 'idiotic', but unless you can dispute the last 5000 years of mathematical law, what I presented was truth, and nothing more. I made no ######ing conjecture on WHY the numbers are what they are, and took no stance on ANY topic other than the unbelievable (and intentional) retardedness of anybody who would use the '8x greater' number FOR ANY PURPOSE.

And it hurts me to know that as a guy who wholeheartedly supports the right to own a gun, I'm lumped in with people who will use blatantly fraudulent evidence to support a stance that has plenty of legitimate arguements behind it.

[Hueypilot]

I wasn't commenting on Helodude's links or his comment, just your statement. When you compare US violence to that with, say, 1990s Rwanda, it does make a guy wonder if you're just another gun ban proponent willing to spin any argument.

One more thing, you might want to stop being so angry.

[BitteEinBit]

One more thing, you might want to stop being so angry.

He is very passionate about his math and statistics....and is at least 8x angrier than the previous 69 posters on BODN.