TacoJohn Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 Bummer when your cover blows up. Link https://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123356118
KState_Poke22 Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 ...damn. Could be just the wording of the article but they made it sound like he was calling in air strikes as well. Maybe I'm out of the loop but I didn't realize any PJs got JTAC qualified.
Torch Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) ...damn. Could be just the wording of the article but they made it sound like he was calling in air strikes as well. Maybe I'm out of the loop but I didn't realize any PJs got JTAC qualified. As they're not quoting assets used, could have been something as simple as using the -60's on site to suppress/neutralize enemy forces or maybe Apaches coming in and vectoring them on target? Total speculation Edited July 18, 2013 by Torch
Breckey Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 This was from the 2011 Mackay Trophy mission https://www.kirtland.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=123327691 https://www.afcent.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123254042
JTAC Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 ...damn. Could be just the wording of the article but they made it sound like he was calling in air strikes as well. Maybe I'm out of the loop but I didn't realize any PJs got JTAC qualified. g. Units and organizations that have a reasonable expectation to conduct terminal attack control in order to accomplish their assigned missions need to have individuals available trained to the appropriate standards to perform this activity (e.g., JTACs). However, experience has shown that there are, and will likely continue to be, instances where terminal attack control will be requested by personnel/units that do not have JTACs present. In these instances, JTACs, FAC(A)s, and/or CAS aircrews should attempt to assist these personnel/units to the greatest extent possible to bring fires to bear in support of their combat operations. Chapter I, 2g, JP 3-09.3
busdriver Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 PJs do not get JTAC qualified currently, some have been to JFO school. Internal to Rescue we train to use CCA format as well as simple bearing and range to work together to affect a rescue while suppressing/destroying threats. It's up to the actual shooter to ensure all deconfliction/coordination has been accomplished. So while not actually controlling strikes, they're fully trained to tell the overhead players where they see enemy positions.
dmeg130 Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 Been much discussion over how to get a JTAC capability inherent in rescue, whether an actual dude assigned to the PJ team/squadron or training CROs or other team members in JFO as above. Several example from recent ops (like this one) demonstrate the need in case no A-10 or FAC(A) is around, but hard to convince senior leader aviators that PJs have any business on the ground more than a rotor disk from the helo sometimes.
busdriver Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 dmeg, really off topic, PM inbound. In this case, BZ to SSgt Zachery.
FallingOsh Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 in case no A-10 or FAC(A) is around, Everyone should get ready for that. to the PJs
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