CosmoPilot Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I am raising the BS flag, lookie rookie. It doesn't add up. Why would your buddy who has that much ADSC left be approved? Someone is yanking his chain. Also had the scary thought that when congress goes through another round of sequestration, guess where they will be cutting the "fat" from? Your vsp and Tera purse. The TERA purse is the exact same purse as all military retired personnel. There is absolutely no difference between the early retired and 20 years retired except the % of pay. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
ThreeHoler Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I am raising the BS flag, lookie rookie. It doesn't add up. Why would your buddy who has that much ADSC left be approved? Apparently you missed the C-17 IP last week who had 5 years of his ADSC waived. The waiver authority is "up to 6 years off of UPT ADSC."
Snooter Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 C-17 IP last week who had 5 years of his ADSC waived. Hold the phone, what did you just say?
Herk Driver Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 So are they opening another round of TERA on the 15th or not? I am sure they will let you know by the end of the month. Be patient. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! 3
lossofclocklossofdata Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 We had an 05 11M approved for VSP today. 3 years ADSC left. Applied late for VSP and never had the initial round of denials I know it's not first come first served but it doesn't look like batches either. I feel like I'm waiting to get picked in dodge ball and the line is getting smaller every day.
Nasty2004 Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Apparently you missed the C-17 IP last week who had 5 years of his ADSC waived. The waiver authority is "up to 6 years off of UPT ADSC." Someone heard he got approved. I didn't hear him say he got approved, nor did I hear this most recent guy say he got approved. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
chizz Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 A c-130 IP in the CTS at LRF just got approved as well as a cheyenne guy dont know how much commitment was left at cheyenne, but none left at LRF. My chances are getting slimmer everyday, they are going to hit the 40 before they get to us that need waivers! F-in crossflow
MooseDriver1 Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 We had an 05 11M approved for VSP today. 3 years ADSC left. Applied late for VSP and never had the initial round of denials I'd like to see the look on the AFPC Retirement and Separations Branch Chief if this is true. If anyone wants more info on my source, PM please. Apparently you missed the C-17 IP last week who had 5 years of his ADSC waived. The waiver authority is "up to 6 years off of UPT ADSC." We all saw the same guidance, but I've asked around at the base in question and nobody in the Sq seems to know who it is...
Nasty2004 Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I'd like to see the look on the AFPC Retirement and Separations Branch Chief if this is true. If anyone wants more info on my source, PM please. We all saw the same guidance, but I've asked around at the base in question and nobody in the Sq seems to know who it is... If it's not a person reporting approval for themselves, I assume the approval hasn't happened. Still waiting for the first person with an ADSC waiver to say they themselves have been approved. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
Butters Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 thank you for repeating this for the 69,000th time in my career. This is precisely why I'll trade my flight suit for an airline uniform. At least there i know my line number and how many people i have between me and being furloughed. Really? You know your line number? Please explain how that worked out for AirTran pilots. My count says the #1 guy dropped to #1,648 when they merged with SWA.
chim richalds Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Really? You know your line number? Please explain how that worked out for AirTran pilots. My count says the #1 guy dropped to #1,648 when they merged with SWA. You really are a snarky sob. My comment was made that at least I know how many people I have between me and getting furloughed. Even @ 1600, that guy has a lot if people between him and the unemployment line. Edited April 12, 2014 by chim richalds
MooseAg03 Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Really? You know your line number? Please explain how that worked out for AirTran pilots. My count says the #1 guy dropped to #1,648 when they merged with SWA. It's all relative, top out Capt pay at AirTran was $174/hr and at Southwest it is $216/hr. That pilot had the potential to gain a 24% increase in pay, unless that drop in seniority pushed him/her back to the right seat. Sure the QOL probably dropped with the loss of seniority but the increased future earning potential cannot be denied. The benefit was even greater for those lower in AirTran's pilot pool with more years available at higher pay, sure the top guy on any seniority list is going to resist any changes that take away that advantage, but you have to look at what it did for the remainder of the group as well. Edited April 13, 2014 by MooseAg03
CosmoPilot Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Did AFPC work today. The end of the week is today for those PSDMs...no worries, they just changed the verbiage to "will be coming" YCMTSU!!!! Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
tunes Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Do we know for sure they are only going to release 40 pilots? Source? I'm assuming thats just his yr group overage
Vspapplicant Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 So what we know about VSP applications at this point--They go from the member (who can select if they want to be considered for a reserve commission) to the squadron commander, to the wing commander to AFPC for batch processing. The Squadron Commander can recommend approval or disapproval and indicate if you are excess to local requirements and under investigation, etc. The Wing Commander then recommends approval or disapproval with comments. When you check the status under -View my application- on vMPF for those past the Wing/CC phase it says "referred to BPO" However, if you access the Case Management system under the homepage of vMPF for some people it says "AFPC OFF Voluntary Separation Pay" or "referred to BPO" It would seem that those members who have an application status of "AFPC OFF Voluntary Separation Pay" are checked out and ready for approval -- but that is pending actually needing to approve their application based on the matrix updating. After speaking with a member at the TFSC, she stated that she is not sure when applications for the majority of rated members will be -- but for some reason she thought it would be 1 May or 7 May. What did most people put on their application for AFRC? Is it reasonable to think that if the member is eligible (with the newly announced waivers) and the application made it to "AFPC OFF Voluntary Separation Pay" if there is a need in their year group to reduce the number of rated officers, their application will be approved?
chizz Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) I'm assuming thats just his yr group overage correct, 02 11Ms it was 40 something i believe Edited April 13, 2014 by chizz
Fozzy Bear Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Regardless of ADSC, has anyone been denied and successfully reapplied? Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
tunes Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Regardless of ADSC, has anyone been denied and successfully reapplied? Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Yes. I originally applied at 0004 when the window opened and was denied in the first batch for UPT ADSC. I re applied in March and have been at afpc for the past 2 weeks or so Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
Fozzy Bear Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Cool. Thanks Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
Sierra Hotel Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 How did you guys know that the '02 year group is +40? Is that published somewhere? Let the public flogging commence if I missed this somewhere... Anyone know the overage for '05? -SH
lossofclocklossofdata Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) How did you guys know that the '02 year group is +40? Is that published somewhere? Let the public flogging commence if I missed this somewhere... Anyone know the overage for '05? -SH It was on the RIF overage matrix before they took it down in Feb. I can't remember exactly but I think we(05) were around 18%-22% overage out of those eligible (64 overage out of 280ish eligible)? Edited April 13, 2014 by lossofclocklossofdata
Charlie17Chick Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 How did you guys know that the '02 year group is +40? Is that published somewhere? Let the public flogging commence if I missed this somewhere... Anyone know the overage for '05? -SH Back on the RIF matrix published in Jan, the 2005 11M were overmanned by 84 out of 466 eligible, which is about 18% of our year/AFSC. This could have changed in the past 3 months of course, but they haven't published new numbers like that for officers to my knowledge .
lossofclocklossofdata Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Back on the RIF matrix published in Jan, the 2005 11M were overmanned by 84 out of 466 eligible, which is about 18% of our year/AFSC. This could have changed in the past 3 months of course, but they haven't published new numbers like that for officers to my knowledge . That sounds more like it
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