FY 14 Force Management Program (RIF, VSP, TERA)

[chizz]

SH, bend over

Edited April 13, 2014 by chizz

[Shut up 'n color]

Now that it seems like "Batch 1" has been announced, does anyone know the next timeline? I'm sure it's all full of inaccuracies at this point, but after 1 May, is there any idea when announcements from that Batch are supposed to be announced? Is the required DOS the same of NLT end of September?

[BONE WSO]

I wouldn't call it batch 1 complete. I think they are just working on them one by one. A WSO in my squadron, that applied one day after me, was approved last week and I still haven't heard anything. This makes me think that they have just assigned the cases to specific people that are working at different speeds.

Neither of us have an ADSC, so there is really no other reason he would get notified before me.

Edited April 14, 2014 by BONE WSO

[tunes]

checked mine in cms, it went from At AFPC Vol Sep in march to now it says it only got there April 10....really confused on that one.

[Bender]

checked mine in cms, it went from At AFPC Vol Sep in march to now it says it only got there April 10....really confused on that one.

That was easy. ;)

Bendy

[Dubs]

It would seem that those members who have an application status of "AFPC OFF Voluntary Separation Pay" are checked out and ready for approval -- but that is pending actually needing to approve their application based on the matrix updating.

Are you saying that if an applicant has this status and their AFSC/year still needs people cut, that AFPC has already pre-approved them?

[Sierra Hotel]

I called and talked to AFPC... She (the level 1 rep) looked into my account and on the back side of their gonculator it says "pending TL approval". The rep said this means Team Lead and she inferred this is the last step prior to approval but wasn’t entirely sure nor did she have any idea on how long it will take to get an answer.

My current status in CMS shows "referred to off voluntary separation pay". Take it for what it's worth but I won’t believe anything until I have my orders in hand.

-SH

[shweaty]

My current status in CMS shows "referred to off voluntary separation pay". Take it for what it's worth but I wont believe anything until I have my orders in hand.

-SH

Look at the previously assigned agencies box below in CMS.

I show AFPC OFF VOLUNTARY SEPERATION PAY. In the box above I show, referred to AFPC OFF VOLUNTARY SEPERATION PAY. If you have both if these you are at the last stop. However, I've been at this crossroad since 4 March.

I've talked to the TFSC numerous times and the technician said it's the final approval/disapproval stage. Based on the current trend it's all the 02 11M that are being processed now. Hopefully they can crank out 2 yr groups a week.

Edited April 14, 2014 by shweaty

[Pilot Mom]

Are you continued or a LtCol? What it looks like is the Air Force is cleaning house on the continued Majors but haven't approved any under 19 year LtCols yet (a big yet!)

I'm a Lt Col, just over 15 years. As of this morning I still haven't heard anything on TERA. My commander was able to push my RNLTD to 31 July. I did see that most of the people getting approved were Majors...I wonder if they wil meet their numbers with Majors and deny the rest of us. It would be nice to know! The "we hope to have an answer on all TERA applications by the end of the week...." was last week. So obviously they didn't meet that 'hopeful suspense' either.

[flyjetz]

PSDM 14-32 (TERA Phase III) is now posted on myPERS. I'm stepping to fly, so I haven't read it in full. But from the very quick glance I took, it looks like it applies to all deployed officers and those with pending deployments. It also applies to those ineligible under TERA Phase II, but now eligible due to changes in the voluntary program matrix. Retirement effective dates must be NLT the first day of the fourth month after returning from deployment for those deployed, or 1 Sep 14, for those in the second category. I could be off on my facts, as I have not read through it all.

Edited April 14, 2014 by flyjetz

[FBomb]

PSDM 14-08, VSP, was also updated. Looks like major changes to the rules WRT deployments and 365's.

EDIT: Changes have also been made to the new ADSC waiver table previously posted on MyPers. Looks like recoupment will now be required for any AFIT/AAD's paid for by big blue. Note says that HAF is in the process of approving/disapproving waiver to this policy.

Edited April 14, 2014 by FBomb

[Emer Msn Updated]

New VSP PSDM posted on mypers date 11 Apr. Officially not processing applications until after 1 May.

"Applications, including those not yet processed and adjudicated, will be processed after the application window closes on 1 May."

[Lumbergh]

New VSP PSDM posted on mypers date 11 Apr. Officially not processing applications until after 1 May.

"Applications, including those not yet processed and adjudicated, will be processed after the application window closes on 1 May."

Any other major changes to 14-08? Can't check myPers right now.

[Nasty2004]

New VSP PSDM posted on mypers date 11 Apr. Officially not processing applications until after 1 May.

"Applications, including those not yet processed and adjudicated, will be processed after the application window closes on 1 May."

How can I be furious and at the same time not at all surprised?

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[Dagoden]

Just curious, has any other TERA applicants had their myPers tickets updated at all this month? FM Validation Complete on 31 March. No change since.

Hoping the ball will get rolling tomorrow with the supposed "round 2".

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[Champ Kind]

Oh the irony.

Recoupment for a BS AAD you used TA for and didn't want in the first place.

[shweaty]

"Applications, including those not yet processed and adjudicated, will be processed after the application window closes on 1 May 14". The new 14-08

[Dubs]

"Members who are deployed or projected for deployment, as long as they meet all other eligibility criteria, may apply for VSP and if approved the requested DOS will be NET 30 days and NLT four months from the return date from the deployment."

The deployment I got tagged with AFTER I applied for VSP almost f*cked me.

[TrunkMonkey]

OK, so no answer on the TERA application that I submitted in January, and yet AFPC has the bandwidth to begin ANOTHER round of TERA...

For those now applying, best wishes. I hope your wait is nowhere near my wait. How do I plan for a future when I have no idea where it will be (in or out of uniform)?

Two weeks beyond original deadline, 3 days beyond extended deadline, and no answers or information available about my application from the TFSC, except...it is in the retirement section.

I don't like to bitch, not normally helpful; however, I am now beyond pissed. I cannot be late on any number of deadlines...TOT, training, finance, no-show for not supporting my support group on time...but I am not worthy of so much as a flipping update on my application that is officially 2 weeks late and counting.

I expect to be crapped on...after all I signed the papers without illusion. This shit is now just rude.

[17D_guy]

This shit is now just rude.

Man.. that's the best way to put it.

[Dagoden]

OK, so no answer on the TERA application that I submitted in January, and yet AFPC has the bandwidth to begin ANOTHER round of TERA...

For those now applying, best wishes. I hope your wait is nowhere near my wait. How do I plan for a future when I have no idea where it will be (in or out of uniform)?

Two weeks beyond original deadline, 3 days beyond extended deadline, and no answers or information available about my application from the TFSC, except...it is in the retirement section.

I don't like to bitch, not normally helpful; however, I am now beyond pissed. I cannot be late on any number of deadlines...TOT, training, finance, no-show for not supporting my support group on time...but I am not worthy of so much as a flipping update on my application that is officially 2 weeks late and counting.

I expect to be crapped on...after all I signed the papers without illusion. This shit is now just rude.

^^ What he said

[Bender]

^^ What he said

That's what she said.

Edit: okay, so upon further review...there is evidence TrunkMonkey is a dude. However, much like mIRC, I just assume you are all smokin' hot chicks. It makes talking to you easier when you're being stupid. ...and by stupid I mean not agreeing with me or not immediately giving me what I want.

What he said...

Bendy

Edited April 15, 2014 by Bender

[nsplayr]

Saw this running around online:

Senior Leaders,

In an attempt to provide more direct comms, I will send a weekly update on our Force Management programs. The idea will be to provide a progress report and ground truth on any ongoing rumors that are floating through the force. Similar information is being provided to your A1s and your FSS/CCs.

Progress: AFPC has been working hard this week on processing TERA and VSP applications. As voluntary applications are approved, involuntary targets are reduced and categories of Airmen become ineligible for the involuntary boards - that's a good news story. So far we've already closed over 100 grade/AFSC combinations from the original matrices posted back in January. As part of our normal battle rhythm and plan, we will be updating the matrices at least every other week. This will allow us to show progress and provide Airmen with up-to-date information - again a good news story. This may mean some supervisors and commanders have prepared Retention Forms on Airmen who won't end up meeting a board. Rather than viewing it as unnecessary work, this is again a better situation than having to involuntarily separate Airmen. As categories close, AFPC will also provide updated eligibility rosters to Wings and other units so they can adjust work on retention forms. Here's our progress to date:

Officer VSP to date:

Processed applications: 936
Ineligible applications: 297 (Airmen applied but their AFSC or year group
was not eligible)
Approved applications: 275
Disapproved: 64 (Airmen was eligible when the applied, but disapproved based on receiving enough volunteers in the year group and AFSC)

Remaining applications: 300

* Once a category is closed under any program, Airmen in those year groups and AFSCs are removed from the involuntary boards.

AFPC is processing the remaining officers applications this week and will continue to accept applications through 1 May. This now includes our deployed Airmen who were previously rendered ineligible. We've fixed that issue and word is going out through a revised PSDM next week. This means deployed Airmen have an opportunity to apply for voluntary opportunities, regardless of their DEROS. We now simply adjust their retirement/separation date based on when they come home vice trying to force them into a specific date.

Enlisted VSP to date:

Processed applications: 6,488
Ineligible applications: 1,093
Approved applications: 2,471
Disapproved: 806
Remaining applications: 2,118
AFPC is processing the remaining enlisted applications this week and will continue to accept applications through 1 May.

Officer TERA to date:

Processed applications: 1,032
Ineligible applications: 352
Approved applications: 323
Disapproved: 40
Remaining applications: 317
AFPC is processing the remaining applications. The initial TERA window closed on 26 March.

Enlisted TERA to date:

Processed applications: 4,077
Ineligible applications: 1,277
Approved applications: 2,132
Disapproved: 298
Remaining applications: 370
AFPC is processing the remaining applications. The initial TERA window closed on 26 March.

ADDITIONAL TERA WINDOW:

As previously discussed, we are opening a new TERA window (15 Apr - 13 May) to ensure our deployed Airmen and those on short tours have an opportunity to apply for TERA along with officers who require an active duty service commitment waivers not previously authorized. This primarily includes some rated officers and health professions, but also includes some waivers for education commitments associated with AFIT and EWI as examples.

BLOG/Rumor updates:

Revoked Applications:

You probably read about AFPC revoking approved TERA applications after Airmen were notified. This happened in 19 cases (of the 5,000+ applications) where Airmen were erroneously approved in a category for which they were not eligible or where we already met the quota -- in almost all of these situations, the approval notification to disapproval notification was less than 48 hours. To honor the original commitment, we've gone back out to each of these Airmen and their commanders and provided the option to continue on with the previously approved retirement, or remain on active duty since they were not eligible for involuntary programs anyway. It's been a mixed bag with about half choosing to stay and half choosing to go. Bottom line: we made it right and gave them an option. In our PA release, we highlighted that one error is too many in the people business, but it's unrealistic to think we'll never have human error given the complex and dynamic nature of the programs. So when we find one or are alerted to one through the chain of command, we'll make it right.

Retirement Approval Adjustment:

Finally, you may have seen some traffic on social media regarding 300 officers who were approved for TERA who then had their retirement orders rejected. Rest assured, there are no changes to the approvals, and all those members were contacted to ensure they understood they were still approved. Unfortunately, due to some technical limitations within the personnel data system, automated adjustments had to be made to reload some officers for early retirements (the system wanted to adjust their date to 20 years). This has been fixed.

Going Forward:

We are still on track to start the first involuntary board in May, the Quality Force Review Board (QFRB). This board will look at those Airmen (E1-E8) with negative quality force indicators to determine whether they should be retained. This coincides with our emphasis on quality and wanting to ensure we have exhausted these pools before we have to make the harder choices on separating high performing Airmen in the June and July retention boards. We appreciate your support as we continue to navigate through these challenging Force Management programs. We'll continue to provide updates on our progress and are publishing updates to the field on a weekly basis. Please continue to provide feedback and concerns so we can address them appropriately.

V/R

Sam

Lt Gen Sam Cox
USAF A-1

Edited April 15, 2014 by nsplayr

[HoHum]

Officer VSP to date:

Processed applications: 936
Ineligible applications: 297 (Airmen applied but their AFSC or year group
was not eligible)
Approved applications: 275
Disapproved: 64 (Airmen was eligible when the applied, but disapproved based on receiving enough volunteers in the year group and AFSC)

Remaining applications: 300

* Once a category is closed under any program, Airmen in those year groups and AFSCs are removed from the involuntary boards.

Analysis:

936-297-275=364 applications processed but not approved or disapproved. Anybody know how that works?

64 disapproved? I'm pretty sure there were more than 64 kicked back for UPT ADSC. I know of at least 5.

Only 300 left to process? Was this published prior to the UPT ADSC waiver and the resultant reapplications?

How did a handful of UPT waivers get approved and now the rest are on hold 'til the first?

Obligatory snark:

I hope A1 doesn't get saturated after the 1st...since they're only going to have 7 days, per this from MyPers:

• Application window closes 1 May 2014
• Applications will be approved/disapproved approximately monthly after window opens and no later than 7 May 2014

Edited April 15, 2014 by VSP or 365

[shweaty]

What's the date on that email?