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FY 14 Force Management Program (RIF, VSP, TERA)

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It sounds like AFPC is cutting all the apps in the year groups that recently changed to red and continuing to sit on the remaining elegible apps.

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Sorry, for those of you who were denied recently. My VSP is still awaiting "adjudication". I'm wondering if your CMS status changed from "Referred to Voluntary Separation BPO" at any point. Mine changed to "Referred to Voluntary Separation Pay Off" a few weeks ago and I'm hoping this is where approved applications go to wait for Adjudication Day (May 1st). Anyone who has been approved notice the progression of offices your application went through? I think we're smarter than AFPC and can figure out their Rube Goldberg device.

Note: I'm talking about CMS and not the status on your application in the Separations application. That hasn't changed for me since it passed my Wg/CC and says "Referred to BPO".

Obviously, I'm quoting from memory because vMPF is down yet again. Fortunately, I've looked at these statuses so often, I'm fairly certain I remember them.

MooseDriver1 Crew Dawg

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Sorry, for those of you who were denied recently. My VSP is still awaiting "adjudication". I'm wondering if your CMS status changed from "Referred to Voluntary Separation BPO" at any point. Mine changed to "Referred to Voluntary Separation Pay Off" a few weeks ago and I'm hoping this is where approved applications go to wait for Adjudication Day (May 1st). Anyone who has been approved notice the progression of offices your application went through? I think we're smarter than AFPC and can figure out their Rube Goldberg device.

Note: I'm talking about CMS and not the status on your application in the Separations application. That hasn't changed for me since it passed my Wg/CC and says "Referred to BPO".

Obviously, I'm quoting from memory because vMPF is down yet again. Fortunately, I've looked at these statuses so often, I'm fairly certain I remember them.

I had the referred to Voluntary Separation Pay Off on mine, but so have people who were approved...

Unlike TERA approval indicators, don't think there are any for VSP

shweaty Crew Dawg

shweaty

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Sorry, for those of you who were denied recently. My VSP is still awaiting "adjudication". I'm wondering if your CMS status changed from "Referred to Voluntary Separation BPO" at any point. Mine changed to "Referred to Voluntary Separation Pay Off" a few weeks ago and I'm hoping this is where approved applications go to wait for Adjudication Day (May 1st). Anyone who has been approved notice the progression of offices your application went through? I think we're smarter than AFPC and can figure out their Rube Goldberg device.

Note: I'm talking about CMS and not the status on your application in the Separations application. That hasn't changed for me since it passed my Wg/CC and says "Referred to BPO".

Obviously, I'm quoting from memory because vMPF is down yet again. Fortunately, I've looked at these statuses so often, I'm fairly certain I remember them.

Just sit tight and wait it out. You're app is not going to change until after 1 May.

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Dave Koza

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VSP denied Thursday afternoon.

2003 11M w/ 11 months UPT ADSC and 5 months PCS ADSC.

For the rest of May, it is safe to say that no news is good news.

Best of luck to everyone still waiting to hear back.

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panchbarnes Flight Lead

panchbarnes

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Rusty at force management but a real Pro at patting ourselves on the back.

In staff speak, this is considered "questionable optics."

Trial by fire, SecAF marks first 100 days in office

Published April 22, 2014

https://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/484233/trial-by-fire-secaf-marks-first-100-days-in-office.aspx

In late March, the secretary dusted off her desert boots for her first troop visit to Europe and Afghanistan. While the trip allowed her to get a feel for the global reach of the force under her command, James also celebrated a tacit career milestone, when she passed her 100th day in office March 30.

Since Franklin D. Roosevelt’s successful New Deal presidency, U.S. presidents have increasingly been put to a benchmark test measured by their performance within the first 100 days in the White House.

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Mish_Hacker Crew Dawg

Mish_Hacker

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"Rusty at force management"...How often do we need to do this to not forget the lessons learned? We just did this what, two years ago?

I noticed they mentioned the "less than 20" emails that went out disapproving the already-approved (but not eligible) TERA applications. Absent was the additional notification (hundreds, I think) that went out due to a "glitch."

Like Panch says, "a real Pro at patting ourselves on the back."

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Roosevelt's successful New Deal presidency? It all makes better sense when you figure out that success is measured against horribly ridiculous failure. Hopefully we'll have shook the rust off our force downsizing before the post-default version of this shit.

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Guest ThatGuy

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What's the deal with the overage matrix only showing a few year groups, but the eligibility matrix still showing lots of blue for most year groups?

FBomb Crew Dawg

FBomb

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What's the deal with the overage matrix only showing a few year groups, but the eligibility matrix still showing lots of blue for most year groups?

Thats for FSB eligibles, not RIF eligibles.

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I thought we were woefully overmanned with 11Ms...

You would have thought so by looking at the rif matrix w/ overages released a few months ago. Wish they would release an updated version, but I could think of a dozen cynical reasons why AFPC wouldn't want to release another one of those again...

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Guest ThatGuy

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So we won't see another overage matrix for the various year groups you think? I'm curious to see that matrix now.

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So I have a speculation for the delay to VSP, particularly for 11M's. Within the past month, I have seen 3 of my friends get approved for Palace Chase. Two 2004 11M's and one 2006 11M. I'll bet ya that they are cranking through the PC app's to knock out as many FM requirements before they start approving our VSP apps. If you think about it from their perspective, it's a smart move, but they should have been honest and up front from the beginning instead of giving us the "will process in monthly batches" "strategic pause" "process all remaining and adjudiacated apps after 1 May" "were rusty at Force Managment" Seriously, AFPC is in the business of dealing with peoples lives and they have delayed this proccess to the point where it's straight up unprofessional. Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that if we had been 50+ days late on a suspense, there would be paperwork and/or firings. It amazes me that the AF will fire 9 CC's for a cheating scandal, but no one has taken any responsibility for this debacle.

Days since...

Original FY14 PSDM release: 125

VSP application window: 80

# PSDM iterations without any result...4

# Days AF personnel will have to find a job by the time AFPC "gets around" to approving VSP apps...150 or less

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Rusty Pipes Flight Lead

Rusty Pipes

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Had 2 individuals approved for TERA last week who were in 1 deep positions... both began terminal leave this week and as of now we are being told that we shouldn't expect a backfill until late Fall at the earliest... if at all. Now we are being asked by AFPC what OUR plan is to cover these positions. "Sorry folks (AFPC)... park's closed, the Moose out front shoulda told ya!"

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