FY 14 Force Management Program (RIF, VSP, TERA)

[Herk Driver]

The law states that voluntary separations to not get TAMP but that a service secretary can waive it. Since the implementation was such a clusterfuck, the SECAF requested guidance from the General Council. That's what was done when the "review of the law (10 USC 1175a) determined that the Air Force is authorized to pay the transition assistance management program (TAMP) benefits to Airmen separated under VSP.”

Exactly...the SECAF made a decision to do the right thing after getting GC guidance that she was authorized to do so. Nothing sinister here.

[Ram]

Nothing sinister, but it's...uh...shocking...that A1 implemented the program without full understanding of Title 10, leaving local MPFs and CCs to twist in the winds of conflicting guidance and creating stress/drama for separating members.

It is similar to the A1C at the Finance Office fooking up your travel voucher, but on a MUCH larger scale. I am relieved that SECAF fixed the issue.

[Fud]

Exactly...the SECAF made a decision to do the right thing after getting GC guidance that she was authorized to do so. Nothing sinister here.

I will say this...I am incredibly thankful to Sec. James for approving this for all of us taking VSP. My new job is not going to provide these benefits, and I was going to have to come out of pocket almost immediately. I'm always pleased with her efforts and I think she truly cares about the people.

[Guest]

PSDM 14-114 became available today on the myPers site. Document classified FOUO. Go take a look.

Edited November 18, 2014 by deaddebate

[Ram]

PSDM 14-114 became available today on the myPers site. Document classified FOUO. Go take a look.

Subject?

[Butters]

Subject?

Sorry! Deaddebate says it's classified!!!

[Guest]

Subject?

RIF, what else?

[Fifty-six & Two]

I thought most rated were ineligible for this last round. This PSDM is about notifying those who will not be retained.

[akele]

Heard that notifications go out tomorrow for those RIFed.

[Altus Barbarosa]

62X friend was just notified. 03 YG. RIF'd.

Good luck.

[MrsNAV]

Spouse is a 12M 08 YG, retained.

[Dupe]

A dude in my div got a pink slip. '08 (I think) 62X. I'm not sure of any other morts.

[jtludwig]

A dude in my div got a pink slip. '08 (I think) 62X. I'm not sure of any other morts.

We had a couple of '03 63A people get notified today...all at Vandenberg assigned to the NAF.

[Shemachinist]

My brother was not retained, 2001 71S. I was retained, 2002 12R. Been a topsy turvy day.

[olevelo]

2002 12M core, but 12E primary. Test Pilot School grad and instructor. Axed.

[Breckey]

JTFC

[discus]

2002 12M core, but 12E primary. Test Pilot School grad and instructor. Axed.

Holy shit.

[Day Man]

2002 12M core, but 12E primary. Test Pilot School grad and instructor. Axed.

wow.

[Warrior]

wow.

What happened to not being eligible for RIF if you're not eligible for VSP?

The note below the ADSC waiver table says "weapons school and test pilot school ADSCs are not waiverable"

Wait-when did bro go through TPS?

[olevelo]

My TPS ADSC was up about a year ago. Found out a 62E TPS classmate got the axe too.

[pcola]

My TPS ADSC was up about a year ago. Found out a 62E TPS classmate got the axe too.

Wait - this was you that got RIFd?

Un-fucking-believable that they RIFd TPS grads. How much did they spend to send you to that school? Who the fuck is making these idiotic decisions, anyway? Geezus fuckin christ. Well, enjoy your baller job on the outside.

[olevelo]

It's interesting that every single person I've talked from the O-7 level all the way down to the uninitiated have the exact same reaction as you. Which really does bring into question what this board was looking for.

To answer your question, it's about a million dollars to send us through TPS, not including everything it took to get us to that point, as well as the follow on quals or requals we end up with.

[pawnman]

We lost three 12Bs, including an evaluator with 6 deployments. This in an ops group that struggles to fill all the 12B billets.

[MSCguy]

It's interesting that every single person I've talked from the O-7 level all the way down to the uninitiated have the exact same reaction as you. Which really does bring into question what this board was looking for.

To answer your question, it's about a million dollars to send us through TPS, not including everything it took to get us to that point, as well as the follow on quals or requals we end up with.

Maybe you highlighted yourself as not being a team player because you never planned a holiday party or change of command, or spearheaded the CFC drive.

[BONE WSO]

Please bear with me while I tell a little story highlighting what the AF truly values. Hint: It doesn't involve flying or deploying.

When I was a Lt in a B-1 Operations Squadron, I was a scheduler and a line WSO. All I did was fly a lot and bust my ass in scheduling. I received very good strats and excellent OPRs. I never once did a holiday party or any other such BS.

When I got to the FTU, I continued that same routine of flying a lot and being great at my ground job. When I received my first OPR, it was terrible. I was furious. I asked my rater why it was so bad and he said it was because I never did any volunteer work. Being the smart-ass that I am, I told him I would volunteer for every single thing that came across my email for the next year and pay little attention to flying, and that is exactly what I did. I really just wanted to prove a point at how ridiculous the AF is.

I ran the CFC for the entire wing. I organized, no shit, an ice cream social at the WG/CC's house. I led 30 airmen to paint the B-1 at the gate. I organized a flight line social for the city of Abilene. I led the LtGen Rand visit. I led a tour for Sen Cornyn. I even got myself elected as the VP of the CGOC for a few months. Because I was doing all this, I never flew or sat SOF. I only worked on this BS. I flew only 12 times in 2011 but the strange thing was that nobody cared, exactly as I expected. Not once did anybody question why I was never flying with students or doing my job. I logged maybe 50 hours the entire year as an FTU instructor. I constantly received praise from the SQ/CC and WG/CC about everything I was doing and got all #1 or #2 strats. I won CGO of the Year for the squadron and the Ops Group.

The next year I went back to my normal self, and my average OPRs. This example taught me that there is no incentive to be good at your job, or even care about flying. The guys that are logging the most deployments and flying the most with students get shit on careerwise and the guys that shirk flying so that they can go plan the christmas party are getting school slots and becoming commanders. This creates a lot of resentment from the guys actually out there doing the work of the squadron and severely lowers morale. The 3 guys they RIFed in the B-1 were perfect examples of guys that were busting their asses get the job done and they get the boot.

Refusing to play this game, I took the VSP a couple months ago and now love life in the ANG. For the young guys, if you intend the make the AF a career, you have to play the game at least a little bit, not to the extreme I did, but you have to lead some stuff around the group and the wing. I have seen more than a few guys not get promoted, and now guys getting RIFed for being very good at their jobs, but not volunteering to do stuff outside the squadron.

Edited November 22, 2014 by BONE WSO