bbj77 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 So I separated 29 Sep but I now have a 16 day break in service due having an incompetent recruiter and the huge amount of people who had to be scrolled. It looks like I wasn't scrolled until 15 Oct 2014. I was hired by a reserve unit last summer but it took until earlier this month to get my orders to come to work. Has anyone else received this break in service and is there a way to get it corrected? It looks like I was scrolled after my DOS but that was outside of my control and I hope I can argue that somewhere. I found the link on the AFPC website where to request service date changes but wanted some more ammo to include in the request.
Chida Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 You have to do the AFBCMR process. Here's my timeline: May 2012 DOS from active duty Jun 2012 gained to IRR (received break in service of 20 days) Jul 2012 gained to SELRES Aug 2012 I found out about the break in service and filed BCMR Jan 2013 scheduled promotion board (I didn't meet it because of the break in service) Jun 2013 BCMR directed extension of DOS to Jun 2012 to erase break in service which meant I rated a SSB since I would have otherwise met the scheduled promotion board Nov 2013 SSB met Jan 2014 notified of backdated promotion, DOR Oct 2013 Apr 2014 received back pay for 20 extra days of active duty (from erasing the break in service) May 2014 filed claim with local finance and received back pay from the backdated promotion (Oct 13-Jan 14) Jun 2014 filed BCMR for accelerated promotion, DOR Mar 2013 Sep 2014 BCMR was resolved by ARPC (it didn't go all the way to BCMR) for accelerated promotion Oct 2014 filed claim with local finance for back pay claim for accelerated promotion (Mar 13-Sep 13) Dec 2014 back pay paid
Disregard Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 What's so bad about a break in service for AD to TR as an O-3? Three more years as a Captain, which means three more years before getting booted later on as a passed over Major? Doesn't sound that bad to me.
Chida Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 If you have a break in service you won't meet a promotion board (assuming you're eligible) until you have 1 year of continuous service (regular, reserve, or a combination) prior to the board. At most you will be delayed 1 year. Who's getting booted? I'm not following....
Fud Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Via PT fails, the crusade against sexual assault, aggressive drug testing, and MEBs. On the E side the new high year tenure limit of 15 years for E5s is starting to claim some victims as well. I'm curious what the promotion rates to Major will be after they are released. I have plenty of friends who got DP's, but am curious if the rates will be the same or lower than years past.
bbj77 Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 Correct, was wanting to meet promotion board and get more $$$$ this year.
tunes Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 Anyone know the rules with oprs? I went on terminal with less than 120 days of supervision after my last opr closed out. I got an LOE because my reserve unit said at least get that. I palace fronted into the reserves. The civilian on base is now telling me my opr is due and it sticks with my opr date from active duty? The problem is I was on terminal for a little over 4 months and only been to 2 UTAs since ive been busy with my civilian job.....what she is saying doesnt sound right to me...my take is that my opr date should be 1 year from when I entered the reserves...since I came palace front its basically like I entered the reserves from the street so shouldnt that be when my clock starts ticking for an opr? Hoping someone around here has some experience with this kind of thing.
HookEmAll Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 My OPR actually did stick with original dates from active duty. It didn't make sense to me, but my unit did it that way too. In the end I had almost all bullets from what I had done on active duty (chief of Stan/eval) but a duty title that said pilot.
BUSTED Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 In the end I had ... a duty title that said pilot. Win. You're a Reservist, who cares about what your OPR says? 1
tunes Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 My OPR actually did stick with original dates from active duty. It didn't make sense to me, but my unit did it that way too. In the end I had almost all bullets from what I had done on active duty (chief of Stan/eval) but a duty title that said pilot. My problem is I literally did nothing since my last opr
Karl Hungus Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 My problem is I literally did nothing since my last opr So turn in a blank one. Or copy and paste bullets from a friend's. Or just make shit up, like everyone else.
Mojo Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 You need to have someone MPF-ish (I'm an IMA, so not sure who is person would be in the TR world) file an AF Form 77. The period of the report is the date your last active duty OPR closed out until the date you were official gained at your current unit. In the remarks section, they should write "No report available from Date XX through Date XX. No report required according to AFI 36-2406." This happened to me when I left AD as well. Filing the AF77 will rehack your close-out date.
tunes Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 You need to have someone MPF-ish (I'm an IMA, so not sure who is person would be in the TR world) file an AF Form 77. The period of the report is the date your last active duty OPR closed out until the date you were official gained at your current unit. In the remarks section, they should write "No report available from Date XX through Date XX. No report required according to AFI 36-2406." This happened to me when I left AD as well. Filing the AF77 will rehack your close-out date.thanks!
HossHarris Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 There is a reserve rule that you can just use or resubmit your last opr in lieu of a new one. Or some such shit.
HookEmAll Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 Win. You're a Reservist, who cares about what your OPR says? Best promotion I ever received.
Andy Dufresne Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Chime in if you can shed proverbial light. I escaped via VSP last September...didn't know about the scroll at the time, but requested a transfer to the IRR as part of my VSP application...transfer approved. My thought process was that I would probably end up in the Reserves at some point, but was not sure whether it would be in 6 months or three years. Anyhow, found the unit I wanted, recently got hired, and then found out I wasn't scrolled. Got in touch with a Reserve officer recruiter for my region (according to the one processing my paperwork, there are only 16 of these across the US). I am supposedly on the scroll now...waiting game. This process is the only thing holding up acquisition of training dates. 1) Has anyone recently dealt with being added to the scroll post-active duty? If so, what was your experience with timing from being added to sign-off by SecAF? 2) Other than opinion/hope/hearsay, does anyone know of a specific reference relative to IRR and breaks in service? I have heard and read various things from various sources, from official to unofficial...all seem to contradict one another.
rbigred300 Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 I started my scroll paperwork with my recruiter 4 months prior to my dos and it took 5 months to go through. I am sure you will be under the same timeline of 4 to 6 months.
Cap-10 Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 So I separated 29 Sep but I now have a 16 day break in service due having an incompetent recruiter and the huge amount of people who had to be scrolled. It looks like I wasn't scrolled until 15 Oct 2014. I was hired by a reserve unit last summer but it took until earlier this month to get my orders to come to work. Has anyone else received this break in service and is there a way to get it corrected? It looks like I was scrolled after my DOS but that was outside of my control and I hope I can argue that somewhere. I found the link on the AFPC website where to request service date changes but wanted some more ammo to include in the request. We have a few guys get a break due to the scrolling process...."break" was later corrected via Board of Military Corrections. Cap-10
DEVIL Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 Does anyone have any information regarding the total numbers of 11__ who bailed via VSP in 14? Â Shoe flag problems. Â Cheers
Champ Kind Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 Does anyone have any information regarding the total numbers of 11__ who bailed via VSP in 14? Â Shoe flag problems. Â Cheers Just make some shit up and go have a beer or six. It's fake work. 1
FUSEPLUG Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 Shoe Flag was the driving factor in why I submitted my VSP paperwork two years ago. Â I guess SOS truly did pay off. You have my permission to quote that in your report.Â
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