FY 14 Force Management Program (RIF, VSP, TERA)

[Dupe]

Is this how this years RIF PSDM was written?

The last time we did this it was a LAF retention board comprised of board members like a promo board.

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My understanding is that this is the central idea and the key learning point from a few years ago: only a career-specific board could make career-specific cuts intelligently. Why bother laying out a matrix by year group and AFSC if we're then going to hack with an axe? Of course, this is applying logic to an AFPC process....

...I'll dig

Edited May 5, 2014 by Dupe

[Skitzo]

My understand was that this is the central idea and the key learning point from a few years ago: only a career-specific board could make career-specific cuts intelligently. Why bother laying out a matrix by year group and AFSC if we're then going to hack with an axe? Of course, this is applying logic to an AFPC process....

...I'll dig

So if only makes sense to cut via AFSC then it stands to reason that it makes sense to promote that way. But then again.... Reference your previous about logic and afpc.

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[Altus Barbarosa]

I'm retired via TERA as of 1 May and on terminal now. Good luck dudes.

Mr. Barbarosa

[Dubs]

Here's hoping there's some actual movement with VSP approvals/disapprovals today...

[pawnman]

Which is a somewhat silly ban because RRFs are an AFSC-specifc board vice a promotion board (inclusive of all AFSCs). Sucks you had to do that... senior B-52/B-2 dudes probably can speak Bone (STS).

You're telling me. It's just on abbreviations...acronyms are still allowed. So I can write JDAM but I can't turn "target" into "tgt".

[MooseAg03]

Question for the recent successful Palace Chasers, did your squadron and wing CCs recommend approval or disapproval?

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[tunes]

Question for the recent successful Palace Chasers, did your squadron and wing CCs recommend approval or disapproval?

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I've seen both with a pretty constant functional recommend disapproval but an overall approval.

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[Mish_Hacker]

Anybody had any luck with MyPers and the new matrices that were supposed to be published last week?

[treetop07]

Question for the recent successful Palace Chasers, did your squadron and wing CCs recommend approval or disapproval?

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Mine was all approval.

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[BamaC-21]

I've seen both with a pretty constant functional recommend disapproval but an overall approval.

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I'm not 100% sure mine even went to the functional. If it did, it was routed internally. Cms only showed my app going to the PC office one time and it was approved.

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[WannaPC]

Question for the recent successful Palace Chasers, did your squadron and wing CCs recommend approval or disapproval?

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SQ/CC and WG/CC both approved. Like Bama, not sure if it went to the functional because it sat at the PC office (from what I could read) on CMS for only a day and the next thing I knew the AFPC lady was emailing me to correct a few things. Later that day I got the approval. I'm an 11M in RPAs, going to an RPA unit, which is why I think both commands approved. But, as I'm told, it's ultimately an AFPC call to let you go no matter what unit you want to go for. Total toss up.

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[HoHum]

Anybody had any luck with MyPers and the new matrices that were supposed to be published last week?

Nope.

What in the name of God's green earth are they doing at AFPC....Oh wait. I know. They're all in the PC office doing as many two-day turnarounds as they can.

[Mish_Hacker]

Just posted. Exactly the same as January but now 05 and 04 are not RIF eligible...

Says the data is from March...

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Edited May 5, 2014 by Mish_Hacker

[FBomb]

Just posted. Exactly the same as January but now 05 and 04 are not RIF eligible...

Says the data is from March...

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Any new PSDMs to accompany the slides?

[Mish_Hacker]

Yes, I didn't get a chance to read it yet. Not sure if it had any major changes beyond the elimination of '05 from the RIF...

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[Dreamkiller43]

This is for the FY15 RIF. I still haven't seen an updated one for FY14.

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[FUSEPLUG]

Did anyone at AFPC consider tying up a few of the loose ends from the FY14 program before delving balls deep into FY15's!? Jesus tap-dancing Christ!

[HoHum]

I still haven't seen an updated one for FY14.

Uhhh...beavis....it's the FY15 RIF now because it took so damn long. Stand by for FY16 (or 17, at this rate) RIF as promised by the Hon. James.

[Charlie17Chick]

Think the FY14 RIF got canx'd because they didn't have enough notification. New RIF matrix now makes '05 and '04 year groups in LAF ineligible for RIF. I'm hoping they just got enough volunteers, but I'm not holding my breath. PSDM 14-38 is posted on MyPers and details the FY15 RIF. I know a few 2004 11M's that got picked up for PC, so maybe they are still considering 2005 for voluntary programs (still on the most recent vol matrix). I feel like 2005 is about to get screwed…first Maj board delay, now "not considered" an overage… Wouldn't it make sense to reduce our YG, and simultaneously reduce the pool of those competing for Maj? Like two birds with one program…guess that makes too much sense.

[tunes]

it would also make sense for them to process these FY14 VSP apps now.....but we all know that isn't happening.

As for the RIF, it's the FY15 RIF now since its in October.

[LettersVSandP]

It could be that they met their goal for '05 via voluntary measures or it could be that they don't want to have a RIF for similar reasons that '04 was never going meet a RIF board in FY14. They were already selects and non-selects. They don't want to get rid of the selects and the non-selects are already leaving the YG relatively soon anyway. Now '05 is meeting our promotion board (finally), and the RIF board is so close to the same time that it's redundant. Remember, these programs are to meet end strength over the next 5 years and they're front-loading the programs to get it done now, but if somebody is up-or-out in 4 years, that's 5 year plan met.

Keep in mind the answer to many of these questions is literally nobody knows and even if they did, it wouldn't matter because they're going to change again next month.

[secfo12]

I applyed for seperation in lieu of retention board i hope i hear something this week because per mypers all applications will be approved/disaproved mid may

[Day Man]

I applyed for seperation in lieu of retention board i hope i hear something this week because per mypers all applications will be approved/disaproved mid may

I hope you're like 8 margaritas deep...

[C-21.Pilot]

Any news on FY15 TERA options?

[chizz]

SQ/CC and WG/CC both approved. Like Bama, not sure if it went to the functional because it sat at the PC office (from what I could read) on CMS for only a day and the next thing I knew the AFPC lady was emailing me to correct a few things. Later that day I got the approval. I'm an 11M in RPAs, going to an RPA unit, which is why I think both commands approved. But, as I'm told, it's ultimately an AFPC call to let you go no matter what unit you want to go for. Total toss up.

Actually I think it goes to the SAF for approval, functional really has little day is what I gather. While they might have before, I have heard a lot of guys who got not recommend from cc and afpc and still were accepted from the SAF. Ultimately I think if there is a position available, you aren't critically manned and already have a hire letter you'll be good to go. At least that's what I am hoping as I submit mine this week (if the ISR ever gets back to me)

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