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Separation Pay, whether gained through vol or invol methods, will be recouped if one goes on to achieve a military pension.

Edited for being stupid. Beer time anyways.

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Or is on active orders voluntarily for less than 180 days.

I've been on orders for under and over 180 days and have not had to pay back my Sep Pay.

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I've been on orders for under and over 180 days and have not had to pay back my Sep Pay.

Ugh, that's what I get for not looking things up. I went and combined regs.

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So, found this doing a search on e-pubs. Goes into detail on how a RIF board operates. Of note is that it specifically addresses (and no kidding refers to them as) "Do not retain me" letters. The board president can move someone down in their retention ranking based off submitting a "do not retain me" letter.

https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/afpc/publication/afpci36-109/afpci36-109.pdf

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So, found this doing a search on e-pubs. Goes into detail on how a RIF board operates. Of note is that it specifically addresses (and no kidding refers to them as) "Do not retain me" letters. The board president can move someone down in their retention ranking based off submitting a "do not retain me" letter.

https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/afpc/publication/afpci36-109/afpci36-109.pdf

I like how directly under paragraph 26.2, the first selection record it lists to be added to put you back in the gray zone is "attending a school in PCS status"...as if to say it is more important than the ones listed underneath it, such as MOH recipient, POW, etc...

Shows what's really "important" in a career...

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I like how directly under paragraph 26.2, the first selection record it lists to be added to put you back in the gray zone is "attending a school in PCS status"...as if to say it is more important than the ones listed underneath it, such as MOH recipient, POW, etc...

Shows what's really "important" in a career...

LOL...Or 26.2.7. "Any officer possessing a skill (to include capabilities, experiences, and other attributes) approved by SecAF and identified in the board details as critical to the Air Force."
Wonder if flying an airplane is a skill critical to the AF.
Probably not.
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Does anyone know if I show my cards and apply for a separation date of 1 Jan 15 under normal conditions (not under one of the FM programs) am I at risk for AFPC looking at that and basically saying "Oh, you want to separate? How about you get out 1 Apr instead."

I am a non flyer (ATCer) looking to get out and go FAA. I am not eligible for any VSP money and I want to stay on active duty until the end of the year to minimize my gap in employment.

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Had a buddy (O-5) get notified he was SERB'd this morning… needs to retire this Spring. Not sure if everyone is notified at once or if they are doing it individually. Anyone else here of folks getting the call today?

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I like how directly under paragraph 26.2, the first selection record it lists to be added to put you back in the gray zone is "attending a school in PCS status"...as if to say it is more important than the ones listed underneath it, such as MOH recipient, POW, etc...

Shows what's really "important" in a career...

I see it as "more likely" vice "more important." How many POWs/MOH recipients are there? Of those, how many would fall below the grey zone? I see the guy with a narrative RRF from the last duty station as potentially getting screwed. This gives the Board President a chance to say "The AF thought highly enough of this guy to send him to school. Now, his board score indicates a clean kill for separation... That doesn't jive, Let's look into this."

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Fighter, Rescue, and RPA aircrew are ineligible according to AF Times. Special Tactics and a few other officer positions are also not invited to the party. Basically everyone else is eligible.... according to AF Times.

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Fighter, Rescue, and RPA aircrew are ineligible according to AF Times. Special Tactics and a few other officer positions are also not invited to the party. Basically everyone else is eligible.... according to AF Times.

Link??

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FYI, word I got today was that SERB results were released last Friday. As is customary, there is no public release but individuals should already be notified by their chain of command.

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Link??

https://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20140108/CAREERS/301080021/Lists-show-who-s-eligible-ineligible-early-retirement

Link-within-the-link:

https://projects.militarytimes.com/pdfs/Officer-Voluntary-Program-Eligibility-Chart.pdf

This is the old, outdated info. As usual, AF Times simply takes available info and puts it in a blender until it turns into some sort of slurry. Still no updates since before Christmas.

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https://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20140108/CAREERS/301080021/Lists-show-who-s-eligible-ineligible-early-retirement

Link-within-the-link:

https://projects.militarytimes.com/pdfs/Officer-Voluntary-Program-Eligibility-Chart.pdf

This is the old, outdated info. As usual, AF Times simply takes available info and puts it in a blender until it turns into some sort of slurry. Still no updates since before Christmas.

Thanks. I thought by chance it would have new information. I feel dumb for thinking that!

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Fighter, Rescue, and RPA aircrew are ineligible according to AF Times. Special Tactics and a few other officer positions are also not invited to the party. Basically everyone else is eligible.... according to AF Times.

So nothing new compared to the matrix? Copy chaff.

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