twoTangoKilo Posted February 21, 2020 Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 5:46 PM, ryleypav said: Most likely, once you send the resume they will send you the package requirements. Expand So would it be inappropriate to attach a LOR with my resume or advisable to just stick to what they're asking?
John Doe Posted February 21, 2020 Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 3:42 PM, tarheelaviator said: Perhaps but if you have that attitude you are going to hurt your chances of getting what you want. Having a "Plan B" Can Hurt Your Chances of Success It's a similar philosophy that SOF hopefuls have that go through BUDS, Q-Course, RASP, etc. The one's that make it have an attitude of, "I'd rather die, drown, freeze to death, or break my leg than fail this evolution." Burn the boats. If you want a combat aviation mission what about the AF active duty route? Navy/USMC aviation? There is more than one way to get what you want. Expand I would 100% have a plan B. The circuit is crazy this year, with fighter units getting 200+ applicants for 1-2 spots. You literally have a 1-2/200 or 00.5% - 01% chance of getting a guard fighter slot. Than even if you do get a interview, you will have to spend around $800 on flights, hotel, food, car rental, etc out of your own pocket. And even then they interview 15 guys and pick 1 or 2. If it takes you 12 interviews to get a spot, then 12x$800 and you are talking big $$$$. And that’s not counting all of the flight time you need to buy. You can go active duty, but it is possible that you can get a class with no fighter drops (although not likely). There is a good chance you will end up flying a C-17 active duty when u could have done it in the guard/reserve with a much better quality of life (and more $$$ from the airlines). You can also go navy or marine, but you might get a helicopter or osprey or c-130. Morale of the story is don’t pass up a great guard/reserve flying career flying heavies or something cool because you are chasing something that probably won’t happen. Try for fighters at first and give it 100%, but don’t ruin a great plan B because you chased a job with a 00.5% chance of getting hired. You have to be optimistic but also realistic as well. 2
admdelta Posted February 21, 2020 Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 5:41 PM, John Doe said: I would 100% have a plan B. The circuit is crazy this year, with fighter units getting 200+ applicants for 1-2 spots. You literally have a 1-2/200 or 00.5% - 01% chance of getting a guard fighter slot. Than even if you do get a interview, you will have to spend around $800 on flights, hotel, food, car rental, etc out of your own pocket. And even then they interview 15 guys and pick 1 or 2. If it takes you 12 interviews to get a spot, then 12x$800 and you are talking big $$$$. And that’s not counting all of the flight time you need to buy. You can go active duty, but it is possible that you can get a class with no fighter drops (although not likely). There is a good chance you will end up flying a C-17 active duty when u could have done it in the guard/reserve with a much better quality of life (and more $$$ from the airlines). You can also go navy or marine, but you might get a helicopter or osprey or c-130. Morale of the story is don’t pass up a great guard/reserve flying career flying heavies or something cool because you are chasing something that probably won’t happen. Try for fighters at first and give it 100%, but don’t ruin a great plan B because you chased a job with a 00.5% chance of getting hired. You have to be optimistic but also realistic as well. Expand Hey man keep it down, I don’t wanna have to compete with 200+ people on heavies too! 😂 1 1 1
bigdreams Posted February 21, 2020 Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 5:41 PM, John Doe said: I would 100% have a plan B. The circuit is crazy this year, with fighter units getting 200+ applicants for 1-2 spots. You literally have a 1-2/200 or 00.5% - 01% chance of getting a guard fighter slot. Than even if you do get a interview, you will have to spend around $800 on flights, hotel, food, car rental, etc out of your own pocket. And even then they interview 15 guys and pick 1 or 2. If it takes you 12 interviews to get a spot, then 12x$800 and you are talking big $$$$. And that’s not counting all of the flight time you need to buy. You can go active duty, but it is possible that you can get a class with no fighter drops (although not likely). There is a good chance you will end up flying a C-17 active duty when u could have done it in the guard/reserve with a much better quality of life (and more $$$ from the airlines). You can also go navy or marine, but you might get a helicopter or osprey or c-130. Morale of the story is don’t pass up a great guard/reserve flying career flying heavies or something cool because you are chasing something that probably won’t happen. Try for fighters at first and give it 100%, but don’t ruin a great plan B because you chased a job with a 00.5% chance of getting hired. You have to be optimistic but also realistic as well. Expand It seems that some ppl here think if you even remotely understand the possibility that you won't get fighters then you have the "wrong attitude". Lol. Let's just all go in with blind optimism shall we? 1
ryleypav Posted February 21, 2020 Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 6:19 AM, Lisenbyjacob said: So would it be inappropriate to attach a LOR with my resume or advisable to just stick to what they're asking? Expand I would follow their instructions as listed. If they wanted a LOR at that point, they would ask for one. Attention to detail is key. 1
BlueSkyz Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 5:47 PM, ihtbasitc said: big thanks. if i don't get the chance to at least meet them this year i'll be disappointed. i've got calls and emails in to the personnel office too. Expand Sorry, which unit is this? Im AD navy right now about to jump ship and am interested.
tarheelaviator Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 8:35 PM, BlueSkyz said: Sorry, which unit is this? Im AD navy right now about to jump ship and am interested. Expand I believe he's talking about the 131st Fighter Squadron (Massachusetts Air National Guard) out of Westfield.
admdelta Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) On 2/20/2020 at 5:47 PM, ihtbasitc said: big thanks. if i don't get the chance to at least meet them this year i'll be disappointed. i've got calls and emails in to the personnel office too. Expand Just heard back from the Mass POC, he says the board details for this year are still TBD. Doesn't sound like it's happening next month as someone else reported. He did say to keep an eye out on Bogidope and that they'd be making a post there. Edited February 25, 2020 by admdelta Added more deets
BlueSkyz Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 Sorry if this was already posted...has anyone heard back from the 100th FS out of Montgomery yet? Their board is supposed to be 6-7MAR. I've tried emailing Capt Sanka but no joy.
Sky400 Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 Hey everyone, I'm currently looking for any upcoming UPT boards for fighter squadrons, I'm aware of the 121st in DC, the 112th in Toledo, and the 119th in Atlantic City. Feel free to private message me or comment on this post if you know of any other squadrons that are having a UPT board this year or you have a POC for me to use! I'd really appreciate the help.
pilotcrum Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 2:43 PM, BlueSkyz said: Sorry if this was already posted...has anyone heard back from the 100th FS out of Montgomery yet? Their board is supposed to be 6-7MAR. I've tried emailing Capt Sanka but no joy. Expand I just heard back today. Invites were sent out already.
admdelta Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 6:03 PM, Desk Jobs Suck said: Just wanted to say I got picked up! I've been on this forum for almost 2 years now and it has helped me a lot with SA. Looking forward to the adventure and thanks for all the help! Expand Congrats bud! Where at?
bigdreams Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 5:12 PM, pilotcrum said: I just heard back today. Invites were sent out already. Expand Yay or nay?
pilotcrum Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 12:28 AM, bigdreams said: Yay or nay? Expand Nay 😞. But we move on. 2
pilotcrum Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 So is Oklahoma supposed to send out invites this weekend?
ihtbasitc Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 7:39 PM, Desk Jobs Suck said: Thanks man! Madison Expand Any trade secrets for those of us wishing to replicate your success?
tarheelaviator Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 1:00 AM, pilotcrum said: So is Oklahoma supposed to send out invites this weekend? Expand Possibly but I heard it will more likely be the weekend of March 6-8th since that's their first UTA since early February.
Terminator5 Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 7:07 PM, Desk Jobs Suck said: Ask away, I'm willing to look over applications and help with interview stuff. Getting help from those already picked up really helped me as well. Expand Congrats man! What number interview was it for you? And are you prior or off the street?
tarheelaviator Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 1:47 PM, ihtbasitc said: Any trade secrets for those of us wishing to replicate your success? Expand Well if you're running out of patience. 1
CavGuy Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) Anybody have experience with phone/video chat interviews with units? I may have to do one of these soon. Edited February 28, 2020 by CavGuy
gear3green Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 12:04 AM, CavGuy said: Anybody have experience with phone/video chat interviews with units? I may have to do one of these soon. Expand What unit? 1
Burger Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 Just out of curiosity, when y'all sent a resume to 63rd ARS (Tampa), did they give you a response or any follow up email?
admdelta Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 2:08 AM, Burger said: Just out of curiosity, when y'all sent a resume to 63rd ARS (Tampa), did they give you a response or any follow up email? Expand That's a negative. 1
CavGuy Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 2:08 AM, Burger said: Just out of curiosity, when y'all sent a resume to 63rd ARS (Tampa), did they give you a response or any follow up email? Expand Nope
pilotcrum Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 Anyone have any inside information on the 457th FS at Fort Worth and how many people they invite to their meet and greet and how many they invite to interview? I'm sure they're a popular spot.
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