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[herkbum]

Does anyone have a contact at the 134th ARW in Tennessee? I'd like to drop them a line.  

I’m a member, what do you need?


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[1nfrequentF1yer]

2 hours ago, Yeeyee said:

Has anyone brought a bottle of liqour where you can only get from your local area to an interview? What are some pros and cons to this? I know applicants have done this while rushing, not sure if it's advisable after an interview while saying your goodbyes and thank yous. 

It's more the thought that counts, if you have some interesting story behind what special liquor you wanna bring then go for it and make it a conversation point with the bros there. Otherwise the standard applies. It's (in my own opinion) extremely unlikely for them to hire one person over another because they brought some unique liquor. If you're their guy, then it's a really nice finishing touch. If you aren't, then no barrels of whiskey will make it so. Good luck, be cool, be yourself!

[goodflightcowboy]

3 hours ago, Yeeyee said:

Has anyone brought a bottle of liqour where you can only get from your local area to an interview? What are some pros and cons to this? I know applicants have done this while rushing, not sure if it's advisable after an interview while saying your goodbyes and thank yous. 

Also this can backfire. Watched someone shoot themselves in the foot when they brought a specialty liquor "unique to the area" that everyone immediately made fun of. Obviously not a huge deal breaker like Infrequent Flyer said, but probably smart to just stick to quality liquor and let your app and interview do the talking. 

[ryleypav]

12 hours ago, Yeeyee said:

Has anyone brought a bottle of liqour where you can only get from your local area to an interview? What are some pros and cons to this? I know applicants have done this while rushing, not sure if it's advisable after an interview while saying your goodbyes and thank yous. 

Get you a nice bottle of Jeremiah Weed.

[John3806]

1 hour ago, ryleypav said:

Get you a nice bottle of Jeremiah Weed.

This. Also, if they don't sell it in your local area you CAN get it shipped across the country. You'll pay more for shipping that the bottle itself but it's worth it! 

[GreenArc]

The alcohol gift topic is actually one that's been on my mind of late, too, if I were to get an interview:

Let's just say you've got certain persuasions that keep you from buying/drinking alcohol. Any other ideas for a solid, non-alcoholic "finishing touch" type of gift?

Edited June 9, 2020 by GreenArc

[CavGuy]

6 minutes ago, GreenArc said:

The alcohol gift topic is actually one that's been on my mind of late, too, if I were to get an interview:

Let's just say you've got certain persuasions that keep you from buying/drinking alcohol. Any other ideas for a solid, non-alcoholic finishing touch?

$100 visa gift cards to each board member probably wouldn't hurt. 

 

Kidding aside, I personally never liked the idea of bringing gifts to strangers with an ulterior motive of trying to get hired. Being a military guy myself, I know that my peers and myself would see it as a "kissing ass" gesture. Sell yourself and your work/flying history. You can bring the booze when you're the snacko. 

[GreenArc]

26 minutes ago, CavGuy said:

$100 visa gift cards to each board member probably wouldn't hurt. 

 

Kidding aside, I personally never liked the idea of bringing gifts to strangers with an ulterior motive of trying to get hired. Being a military guy myself, I know that my peers and myself would see it as a "kissing ass" gesture. Sell yourself and your work/flying history. You can bring the booze when you're the snacko. 

Right on brother great insight and good to know! I had been mulling this one over a bit, and that's a ton with perspective.

[pilotcrum]

Anyone get a B-1 invite? 

[mp5g]

2 hours ago, GreenArc said:

The alcohol gift topic is actually one that's been on my mind of late, too, if I were to get an interview:

Let's just say you've got certain persuasions that keep you from buying/drinking alcohol. Any other ideas for a solid, non-alcoholic "finishing touch" type of gift?

Dude, no harm no foul on the drinking front. We’ve had guys rush our unit that had the same feelings. They got around it by bringing a couple of boxes of Einstein Brothers bagels and coffee. 

It was also said earlier and is worth repeating, no specific bottle is going to get you hired, regardless of the price, rarity, or nostalgia.

To be honest, the bottles I remember and appreciate the most were the ones that guys bought and then made them unique by attaching something squadron related to it or something else that is relevant to that particular applicant. 

[GreenArc]

10 minutes ago, mp5g said:

Dude, no harm no foul on the drinking front. We’ve had guys rush our unit that had the same feelings. They got around it by bringing a couple of boxes of Einstein Brothers bagels and coffee. 

It was also said earlier and is worth repeating, no specific bottle is going to get you hired, regardless of the price, rarity, or nostalgia.

To be honest, the bottles I remember and appreciate the most were the ones that guys bought and then made them unique by attaching something squadron related to it or something else that is relevant to that particular applicant. 

Thanks a ton brother; that's a great idea and one I'll definitely keep in my back pocket!

[admdelta]

On 6/6/2020 at 3:02 AM, Lisenbyjacob said:

Any word from the 104 FS out of Baltimore?

I haven't heard anything either since the virtual meet-and-greet.

Is it a good idea to follow up or is that bad to do?

[CavGuy]

3 hours ago, pilotcrum said:

Anyone get a B-1 invite? 

nope. 

[twoTangoKilo]

1 hour ago, admdelta said:

I haven't heard anything either since the virtual meet-and-greet.

Is it a good idea to follow up or is that bad to do?

I dont know, but I'm getting pretty antsy.  I felt pretty good about the meet and greet.  Maybe if we don't hear anything by mid-month?

[Checksix]

The 162nd out of Tucson just posted a UPT board closing September 14th!

[pilotcrum]

So the B-1 guys called me twice just figuring out who I was and they seemed pretty interested in me. I had two good conversations over the phone then was told they would send out email invites Friday evening. I never got any email notification from them (invite or rejection) so I was kind of unsure. I called back today but no answer and sent an email but no answer. Should I call again? What do you guys think?

[CavGuy]

17 minutes ago, pilotcrum said:

So the B-1 guys called me twice just figuring out who I was and they seemed pretty interested in me. I had two good conversations over the phone then was told they would send out email invites Friday evening. I never got any email notification from them (invite or rejection) so I was kind of unsure. I called back today but no answer and sent an email but no answer. Should I call again? What do you guys think?

This coming Friday or last Friday? 

[pilotcrum]

1 hour ago, CavGuy said:

This coming Friday or last Friday? 

Last Friday 

[CavGuy]

3 hours ago, pilotcrum said:

Last Friday 

Congrats man. I doubt you wont get an email invite especially if you said it went really well on the phone. 

[stangles]

For those who have been wondering about the 112 FS in Toledo, I got in contact with the POC for this year's board. As of right now, the board is on hold. They will be deploying at some point and are making every effort to hold interviews before then.

[goodflightcowboy]

104FS is making phone calls today for everyone waiting on a response.

[twoTangoKilo]

 

I got my no thanks letter today from 104FS, moving on!

 

I want to get some feedback on something from you guys that have been fighting this fight for a while, especially current active duty.  I've got one year left on my service commitment and have been fully prepared to separate or go ANG to help me find a UPT spot.  Then I get slapped with a dream assignment to the UK for next year and now I've got a big decision to make.  On one hand I'm a pretty low hour student pilot so the extra time on AD will help me to build my hours enough that I should be much more competitive and COVID has kinda dried up a lot of the board opportunities of late.  On the other, I will be locked into another contract which eliminates me from being able to get a spot at all for at least 2 years.  Something that stood out to me on the 104FS email about anyone over 28 should be applying to anywhere they can.  I'll be 26 when I would PCS and 28-30 before I can even get a spot, so that makes me feel like I would actually be less competitive.  Anyone been through this dilemma?

[admdelta]

48 minutes ago, Lisenbyjacob said:

 

I got my no thanks letter today from 104FS, moving on!

 

I want to get some feedback on something from you guys that have been fighting this fight for a while, especially current active duty.  I've got one year left on my service commitment and have been fully prepared to separate or go ANG to help me find a UPT spot.  Then I get slapped with a dream assignment to the UK for next year and now I've got a big decision to make.  On one hand I'm a pretty low hour student pilot so the extra time on AD will help me to build my hours enough that I should be much more competitive and COVID has kinda dried up a lot of the board opportunities of late.  On the other, I will be locked into another contract which eliminates me from being able to get a spot at all for at least 2 years.  Something that stood out to me on the 104FS email about anyone over 28 should be applying to anywhere they can.  I'll be 26 when I would PCS and 28-30 before I can even get a spot, so that makes me feel like I would actually be less competitive.  Anyone been through this dilemma?

I'm not in your position, but I have been told "no" more times than I care to count on account of my age (I'm 30, going on 31). Honestly 28 is when it becomes crunch time, but it probably doesn't affect your competitiveness until you're 29 or 30. That said you never know if the Air Force might suddenly reverse the age limit again.

Edited June 12, 2020 by admdelta

[Bertamus47]

3 hours ago, Lisenbyjacob said:

 

I got my no thanks letter today from 104FS, moving on!

 

I want to get some feedback on something from you guys that have been fighting this fight for a while, especially current active duty.  I've got one year left on my service commitment and have been fully prepared to separate or go ANG to help me find a UPT spot.  Then I get slapped with a dream assignment to the UK for next year and now I've got a big decision to make.  On one hand I'm a pretty low hour student pilot so the extra time on AD will help me to build my hours enough that I should be much more competitive and COVID has kinda dried up a lot of the board opportunities of late.  On the other, I will be locked into another contract which eliminates me from being able to get a spot at all for at least 2 years.  Something that stood out to me on the 104FS email about anyone over 28 should be applying to anywhere they can.  I'll be 26 when I would PCS and 28-30 before I can even get a spot, so that makes me feel like I would actually be less competitive.  Anyone been through this dilemma?

I’m 30, current military, doctorate degree, and high scores, but my flight hours aren’t amazing. I think I’d trade my degree or scores for 4 years off my age based on the feedback I’d received. I know it’s vague but I hope that helps. 

[NattyBo]

4 hours ago, Lisenbyjacob said:

 

I got my no thanks letter today from 104FS, moving on!

 

I want to get some feedback on something from you guys that have been fighting this fight for a while, especially current active duty.  I've got one year left on my service commitment and have been fully prepared to separate or go ANG to help me find a UPT spot.  Then I get slapped with a dream assignment to the UK for next year and now I've got a big decision to make.  On one hand I'm a pretty low hour student pilot so the extra time on AD will help me to build my hours enough that I should be much more competitive and COVID has kinda dried up a lot of the board opportunities of late.  On the other, I will be locked into another contract which eliminates me from being able to get a spot at all for at least 2 years.  Something that stood out to me on the 104FS email about anyone over 28 should be applying to anywhere they can.  I'll be 26 when I would PCS and 28-30 before I can even get a spot, so that makes me feel like I would actually be less competitive.  Anyone been through this dilemma?

I’m current AD enlisted stationed in England and I absolutely love it. I think it’ll just depend on where your priorities lie, if you’ve got an opportunity for a 2 year tour over here I would take it. If it’s 3 or 4 I’m not sure what I’d do. Obviously makes it tougher since there’s not really a way to rush units.