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[elvis]

18 hours ago, Polar Bear said:

Does Houston still have vipers? I heard Oklahoma had a detachment.

Tulsa sits alert in Houston, but no vipers are stationed there. 

[GreenArc]

On 12/10/2022 at 7:40 PM, herkbum said:

 

They have MQ-9s. I believe all of the -1s are gone from the AF.


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[Polar Bear]

On 12/11/2022 at 8:44 AM, elvis said:

Tulsa sits alert in Houston, but no vipers are stationed there. 

So they fly down and fly back. Got it. Thanks for the information.

[bs98]

Anyone gotten a confirmation from Louisiana ANG after submitting a packet? Or Oregon for that matter...

[stlpilot11]

13 hours ago, bs98 said:

Anyone gotten a confirmation from Louisiana ANG after submitting a packet? Or Oregon for that matter...

I had a friend who was invited to a rush for LA. He was telling me they kept it very small (like 12 people)

[bs98]

36 minutes ago, pwhockey11 said:

I had a friend who was invited to a rush for LA. He was telling me they kept it very small (like 12 people)

Interesting, thanks! Any gouge on average scores / flight experience of those invited?

[BL_224]

Anyone heard anything back from the 190th FS outta Boise, ID?

[stlpilot11]

On 12/16/2022 at 11:16 AM, bs98 said:

Interesting, thanks! Any gouge on average scores / flight experience of those invited?

I can't speak to the whole group, but my buddies scores were pretty high and he is a CFI with like 1,500 hours.

[ecc97]

1 minute ago, pwhockey11 said:

I can't speak to the whole group, but my buddies scores were pretty high and he is a CFI with like 1,500 hours.

Different units seem to have different key items. Someone high test, scores, many emphasize, being local, some care less about being local over flights experience, some you need to know someone.

[MeekTiger0824]

For those with experience being an older applicant or hiring a finalist needing an age waiver-

I'm seeing 3 types of age limits on UPT postings:

1. 33 (some listing 30)

2. 33- Age Waivers case by case

3. 33- No Age Waivers

For squadrons that listed 1 or 2, do you think it's worth it to fly out to their meet and greet or is it a hard rule? What if I was invited even though I'm over the age limit, should I say something?

The reason I ask is because a squadron I interviewed with last year said they'll interview me for 2023 board and if chosen they'll push the paperwork for an age waiver.  I remember last year they listed an age limit (I applied when I was below the age limit) which got me wondering how strict is the age limit?

Also, should I be up front and list it on my resume and mention it at meet and greets? My mentor who is in a heavy squadron told me to NEVER mention it on my resume and if they want to find out my age they will figure it out. I had a bad experience doing this, I was chosen to interview for a slot and when they asked my age, I saw a few jaws dropped and they all scribbled furiously notes and I knew immediately I was out of consideration because of it.

TIA

[brabus]

If the squadron says no age waivers over X, and you’re over X, then not worth your time to visit. But, if < X, or they invite you to come out, definitely go visit.  Not saying you should advertise “old age” in conversation unprompted, but your birthdate has to be somewhere in the packet, right? I don’t know how a board interviewed you with zero clue on your age.

[FDNYOldGuy]

13 hours ago, MeekTiger0824 said:

...old people words...

So, very much what @brabus said. If they advertise a limit, it might not be worth your efforts to head out, as time is not your friend and you should focus your energy where it'll have the greatest effect...with squadrons that will be fine with Centrum Silver. 

Secondly, in regards to your interview and the jaws dropping about your age, best course of action is to EXPECT that and practice your response to why your age is an ASSET, not a hinderance. You certainly don't want to hide your age, but there should also be quite a few examples and supporting lines for how your greater life experiences through time on the planet will help you overcome obstacles, interact with others, etc. It's not a bug; it's a feature. 

Third, being old usually comes with extra entanglements that young folks don't have. You might have a sig other/kiddos that add to the expense or just general struggles with PCS-ing between schools, spending time studying, staying focused if they don't enjoy life/can't find employment in the middle of nowhere UPT bases are located, etc. You may be single and have no attachments, but you'll also have probably made more money/accumulated more expenses that can be tough to swing on a 2Lt salary; you wouldn't be the first to be "shocked" at how little military pay is. You may also not be as keen about getting berated at OTS or at UPT after a shitty sortie. It's not the easiest for many folks to swallow getting crushed by someone that may be 6-9 years your junior that never lived life outside of the military. The elderly are less keen to play the game and just shut up and color.   

Lastly, realize that a main reason many do not want to process a waiver is that it's extra work that they don't have to do if they go with a younger candidate. It's a lot of paperwork, explanations, and risk that, if you bomb out, the hiring board/squadron could be beat over the head with. "See, we did all that work and they failed out or quit." At the very least, it's a lot of paperwork to push a waiver (called an ETP), so you can certainly help your cause by figuring out what that paperwork is and promising the squadron you will do everything in your power to help complete it and push it along. Most people don't want extra work, so if you can show you're willing to minimize the extra work required to push an age waiver, then you'll help them feel a lot better about considering someone requiring one. 

Good luck!

[BL_224]

18 hours ago, MeekTiger0824 said:

For those with experience being an older applicant or hiring a finalist needing an age waiver-

I'm seeing 3 types of age limits on UPT postings:

1. 33 (some listing 30)

2. 33- Age Waivers case by case

3. 33- No Age Waivers

For squadrons that listed 1 or 2, do you think it's worth it to fly out to their meet and greet or is it a hard rule? What if I was invited even though I'm over the age limit, should I say something?

The reason I ask is because a squadron I interviewed with last year said they'll interview me for 2023 board and if chosen they'll push the paperwork for an age waiver.  I remember last year they listed an age limit (I applied when I was below the age limit) which got me wondering how strict is the age limit?

Also, should I be up front and list it on my resume and mention it at meet and greets? My mentor who is in a heavy squadron told me to NEVER mention it on my resume and if they want to find out my age they will figure it out. I had a bad experience doing this, I was chosen to interview for a slot and when they asked my age, I saw a few jaws dropped and they all scribbled furiously notes and I knew immediately I was out of consideration because of it.

TIA

Agree with the first two replies to this. I’m on the older end as well and was recently hired by a guard fighter unit. What I’ll add is to check out the AFMAN 36-2100. It very clearly explains the age limit and the ETP process. Getting gouge from unit hiring sites is good but going to the source can provide more clarity.  
 

Understanding the policy and the reference that the policy is found in does two things, first it helps you speak intelligently in an interview to how your age can be an asset and it also shows units that you’ve done your homework and are willing to put in the work to help the unit with the ETP to the max extent you can. 

[hockeydork]

Anybody going to VT from CT/NY area and wanna carpool/ have wing man for drinking? I was gunna fly up but weather looks sketchy. 

[Nova1976]

Has anyone received a response from Vermont about interviews? 

[MCPRAWN]

22 hours ago, Nova1976 said:

Has anyone received a response from Vermont about interviews? 

Negative. I’m in a group chat with ~10 people who rushed there a couple weeks ago and none of them have heard anything either.

[vsu8992]

CSO opportunity w/ Georgia ANG, Robins AFB. Multiple slots may be offered with AGR a possibility post training. More details attached and feel free to PM with questions. 

 

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The 116th Air Control Wing will be holding a line officer commissioning board during May UTA for those seeking a commission as a Combat Systems Officer (CSO). Please utilize the attachment for guidance on your officer packages.

Our 116 ACW Base and Education office's next AFOQT testing will be conducted on 6 February and 3 April. 

AFOQT Testing:  Robins AFB Education Office: 78fss.fsde.testingservices@us.af.mil or (478)327-3884, Option 4 to inquire about their schedule.

Dobbins ARB, Moody AFB and Maxwell AFB are other options.   

**AFOQT test must be taken and results in your application to be considered**

 

Dates/Timeline:

10 April 2023: Package Submittal deadline

May 2023 : Board Interviews

ACW 23-1 -116_CSO Commissioning Announcement.pdf

[Nova1976]

On 2/5/2023 at 3:08 PM, Accountname said:

Negative. I’m in a group chat with ~10 people who rushed there a couple weeks ago and none of them have heard anything either.

Dude.. crazy. They are usually right on time. There is still hope! I’ll report if I hear anything. 

[bs98]

On 2/5/2023 at 3:08 PM, Accountname said:

Negative. I’m in a group chat with ~10 people who rushed there a couple weeks ago and none of them have heard anything either.

How was the rush!? I’m learning some are not worth the trip

[MCPRAWN]

16 hours ago, bs98 said:

How was the rush!? I’m learning some are not worth the trip

I had a blast! Definitely a lot of people there, but I really enjoyed the base tour and all the convos I had with the pilots and other rushees. 

[bs98]

Anyone care to chime in on where they've applied and/or heard back from? I've put in to Portland and Vermont fighters, heard nothing.

[UrMomsFav20x102mmRound]

43 minutes ago, bs98 said:

Anyone care to chime in on where they've applied and/or heard back from? I've put in to Portland and Vermont fighters, heard nothing.

 

[Nova1976]

I applied to both. Rushed in VT. I received a confirmation email that Portland received my application. Other than that, nothing. 

[boba1024]

TBNT from VT with general feedback. 

[Nova1976]

Does anyone know if there is another place or platform where applicants are sharing gouge/info? This thread has been ghost-town lately