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[foxen]

2 hours ago, SquidBilly said:

Pretty standard for most AFRC/Guard fighter squadrons. No other feedback or was that just the easy cut? Any ties to there?

I agree, no that wasn't the easy cut unless they weren't fully honest? Idk.

Only thing I left out was flying hours. But basically they said they had to elevate the minimums to weed out applicants to make interview selection. 

So it sounds to me like scores come first but whole person concept comes second. Only other tidbit was that if I had flight hours/a more competitive pcsm I'd be a very competitive candidate so at least I know what to work on and at least these are things I and all of you can impact for the most part (which is good). 

No ties to Wisconsin whatsoever, total rando. Hardly any ties to ang/afrc as a whole. 

[SquidBilly]

2 hours ago, foxen said:

I agree, no that wasn't the easy cut unless they weren't fully honest? Idk.

Only thing I left out was flying hours. But basically they said they had to elevate the minimums to weed out applicants to make interview selection. 

So it sounds to me like scores come first but whole person concept comes second. Only other tidbit was that if I had flight hours/a more competitive pcsm I'd be a very competitive candidate so at least I know what to work on and at least these are things I and all of you can impact for the most part (which is good). 

No ties to Wisconsin whatsoever, total rando. Hardly any ties to ang/afrc as a whole. 

Gotchya. Without looking at your app it's hard to say. 

First recommendation would be to do Bogidope applicaiton/interview prep or review apps of those who have interviewed/selectees.

With the 115th, there last boards trends had some who were hired without PPL and low hours (40s) and higher was around 140. PCSM and AFOQT in your range, with no rush or ties to the area. 

They definitely look to hire from within first, but getting an interview is possible with what you presented. Keep on applying.

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by SquidBilly

[hockeydork]

TBNT from JAX after a phone interview. Anybody make it thru and get an in person? 

[foxen]

18 hours ago, SquidBilly said:

Gotchya. Without looking at your app it's hard to say. 

First recommendation would be to do Bogidope applicaiton/interview prep or review apps of those who have interviewed/selectees.

With the 115th, there last boards trends had some who were hired without PPL and low hours (40s) and higher was around 140. PCSM and AFOQT in your range, with no rush or ties to the area. 

They definitely look to hire from within first, but getting an interview is possible with what you presented. Keep on applying.

I appreciate it, 

Yeah I mean they were saying 80s 90s to be competitive. 

I am 80s afoqt pilot score but I'm 50s on the pcsm (probably from never having touched a stick/rudder). 

[Avi8]

On 8/11/2022 at 6:36 PM, foxen said:

got feedback from 115/176 TLDR - PCSM 80s/90s to be competitive

Here were my scores and I wasn’t offered an interview. 
pcsm-97 pilot-98, cso-89, abm-99,     aa-74 ver-67 quant-80

[BL_224]

On 8/11/2022 at 11:36 AM, foxen said:

got feedback from 115/176 TLDR - PCSM 80s/90s to be competitive

 

On 8/11/2022 at 2:10 PM, red said:

Good luck everyone who applied!

 

19 hours ago, foxen said:

I agree, no that wasn't the easy cut unless they weren't fully honest? Idk.

Only thing I left out was flying hours. But basically they said they had to elevate the minimums to weed out applicants to make interview selection. 

So it sounds to me like scores come first but whole person concept comes second. Only other tidbit was that if I had flight hours/a more competitive pcsm I'd be a very competitive candidate so at least I know what to work on and at least these are things I and all of you can impact for the most part (which is good). 

No ties to Wisconsin whatsoever, total rando. Hardly any ties to ang/afrc as a whole. 

 

19 hours ago, SquidBilly said:

Gotchya. Without looking at your app it's hard to say. 

First recommendation would be to do Bogidope applicaiton/interview prep or review apps of those who have interviewed/selectees.

With the 115th, there last boards trends had some who were hired without PPL and low hours (40s) and higher was around 140. PCSM and AFOQT in your range, with no rush or ties to the area. 

They definitely look to hire from within first, but getting an interview is possible with what you presented. Keep on applying.

 

 

56 minutes ago, foxen said:

I appreciate it, 

Yeah I mean they were saying 80s 90s to be competitive. 

I am 80s afoqt pilot score but I'm 50s on the pcsm (probably from never having touched a stick/rudder). 

 

22 minutes ago, Avi8 said:

Here were my scores and I wasn’t offered an interview. 
pcsm-97 pilot-98, cso-89, abm-99,     aa-74 ver-67 quant-80

From the feedback I received from the 176FS, they were filling a “wash out” slot and needed someone right away.  
 

Obviously this is all subject to change, but sounds like they’ll have another board (open to civilian and military) late next year. 

As for test scores, obviously work to maximize your scores but I wouldn’t get  wrapped around the axle with numbers and scores. As we’ve seen from the last 176th board, they hire for a variety of reasons so every board is different and what/who they’re looking for is different every time. Keep applying and pressing on. 

[Peachy]

Has anyone heard back from the 109th AS? I thought I’d ask around before bugging their POC. 

[red]

On 8/10/2022 at 4:42 PM, foxen said:

Sorry to hear that man. Any feedback you wanna share with the group? Or stats?

Did manage to get a little feedback. Mostly about making the cover letter stand out more. But other than that my package was considered very competitive. Didn’t hear about stats other than there being ~200 applicants, most of which were competitive in some way or another.

 

edit: this feedback was for the 119FS board, sorry should have clarified

Edited August 18, 2022 by red

[GreenArc]

What up y’all!

Anybody apply to the 327th AS and hear back? I know the deadline was only a week ago but figured I’d ask since the board is in 3 weeks.

Thanks for any intel!

[MeekTiger0824]

On 8/19/2022 at 12:22 PM, GreenArc said:

Anybody apply to the 327th AS and hear back? I know the deadline was only a week ago but figured I’d ask since the board is in 3 weeks.

Also haven't heard back either, didn't realize the board was so close

[GreenArc]

11 hours ago, MeekTiger0824 said:

Also haven't heard back either, didn't realize the board was so close

Right on man, thanks for letting me know!

And yeah the board is Sept. 10-11, so hopefully we’ll be hearing back soon!

[cheraypaja]

On 8/19/2022 at 11:22 AM, GreenArc said:

What up y’all!

Anybody apply to the 327th AS and hear back? I know the deadline was only a week ago but figured I’d ask since the board is in 3 weeks.

Thanks for any intel!

Got a call from the POC today, they are doing phone screenings right now, they had a PCSM score cutoff (didn't say what) to whittle the numbers down and they are sending final interview invites next week. 2 slots open and they only plan on inviting a small handful to interview

[GreenArc]

1 hour ago, cheraypaja said:

Got a call from the POC today, they are doing phone screenings right now, they had a PCSM score cutoff (didn't say what) to whittle the numbers down and they are sending final interview invites next week. 2 slots open and they only plan on inviting a small handful to interview

Right on—thank you for the intel and congrats on taking a step forward there!

Hopefully they haven’t finished phone screens yet, so we’ll see what the rest of the week brings.

Best of luck!

[WxNonner]

On 8/17/2022 at 2:12 PM, Peachy said:

Has anyone heard back from the 109th AS? I thought I’d ask around before bugging their POC. 

I'd give them another week since that application window just closed on the 14th. I did get a message back from their personnel staff acknowledging that my stuff was received but that was it. I'd be curious to know how many people even know they were hiring since they only have a 1 month window and don't really advertise it anywhere. They were solid communicators last time I applied, so I imagine even if you don't get an interview, they'll let you know as much.

[Peachy]

1 hour ago, WxNonner said:

I'd give them another week since that application window just closed on the 14th. I did get a message back from their personnel staff acknowledging that my stuff was received but that was it. I'd be curious to know how many people even know they were hiring since they only have a 1 month window and don't really advertise it anywhere. They were solid communicators last time I applied, so I imagine even if you don't get an interview, they'll let you know as much.

Are you referring to the 109th Airlift Squadron or 109th Airlift Wing?

[WxNonner]

Sheesh... the wing. My mistake. Not the first time I've made it either. Good catch, and good luck with your application!

[Peachy]

Just now, WxNonner said:

Sheesh... the wing. My mistake. Not the first time I've made it either. Good catch, and good luck with your application!

No worries! I didn’t know that Wing just had a hiring board, their mission is awesome!! Good luck to you as well!

[fritz51]

TBNT from Duluth. They even said that due to the amount of apps (~135) they aren’t able to give out feedback. Is there anyone here that got an interview? I’d love to compare packages if you’d be willing.

Quite honestly this one was pretty f*cking brutal as this is my #1 unit and I’m fairly local. I want to dedicate my life to this and set up roots there, have great experience and made great scores. Really just have worked my ass off over the years to build a package and then not being able to even get any feedback just flat out sucks. But as all of you guys know, thats how it goes and you just need to push forward.


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[ecc97]

1 minute ago, fritz51 said:

TBNT from Duluth. They even said that due to the amount of apps (~135) they aren’t able to give out feedback. Is there anyone here that got an interview? I’d love to compare packages if you’d be willing.

Quite honestly this one was pretty f*cking brutal as this is my #1 unit and I’m fairly local. I want to dedicate my life to this and set up roots there, have great experience and made great scores. Really just have worked my ass off over the years to build a package and then not being able to even get any feedback just flat out sucks. But as all of you guys know, thats how it goes and you just need to push forward.


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I’ve applied to Duluth multiple times, same result.

[GreenArc]

TBTN from Duluth as well. I had what I felt was a really, really solid quote I was going to throw into an interview from Michelle MacKay--Duluth's very own favorite tutor from D2: The Mighty Ducks--primed and ready to go, too. 

But in all seriousness, I get it: it always sucks to get a TBTN, but hey, we're still the fight y'all! Keep grinding fellas, it's gonna pay off. All the best to each of you!

[foxen]

2 hours ago, fritz51 said:

TBNT from Duluth. They even said that due to the amount of apps (~135) they aren’t able to give out feedback. Is there anyone here that got an interview? I’d love to compare packages if you’d be willing.

Quite honestly this one was pretty f*cking brutal as this is my #1 unit and I’m fairly local. I want to dedicate my life to this and set up roots there, have great experience and made great scores. Really just have worked my ass off over the years to build a package and then not being able to even get any feedback just flat out sucks. But as all of you guys know, thats how it goes and you just need to push forward.


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This post hit hard. Not because I applied and got a TBNT ( I must have missed that one) but because of the geographical piece. IMO regardless of airframe, mission, etc..  it increases the appeal of the unit if it isn't far/doesn't require a long term complete life change (~6 Hours). Currently I drive 4 to a unit in the army guard and it is worth it because of the people and what we do. I have a friend who pays to fly to drill monthly(TX-> GA) and needless to say, it isn't cost effective. IDK why I'm on tangent at the moment, but as you said, push forward. stick with it. if you're fairly local, it wouldn't hurt to start developing relations.

When I started my process  in June, I did what a lot of corporate recruiters do - started looking for pilots in the air guard/reserves on linkedin... mostly for advice or guidance, but I've found that most people are super willing to talk and help however hey can (likely because they've been in our shoes).

The way I see it, it'll allow you to grow your network, maybe make new friends, give you a reason to grab a beer, new support line, have an internal member to recognize and vet you, and from a business perspective, WORST case, maybe someone who is willing to look at your packet or write a LOR (because we can always use more of those right?).

 

[MeekTiger0824]

5 hours ago, fritz51 said:

TBNT from Duluth. They even said that due to the amount of apps (~135) they aren’t able to give out feedback. Is there anyone here that got an interview? I’d love to compare packages if you’d be willing.

Quite honestly this one was pretty f*cking brutal as this is my #1 unit and I’m fairly local. I want to dedicate my life to this and set up roots there, have great experience and made great scores. Really just have worked my ass off over the years to build a package and then not being able to even get any feedback just flat out sucks. But as all of you guys know, thats how it goes and you just need to push forward.

Sorry to hear that, you just got to keep applying and don't take it personally. They received over a hundred apps, so it's just competitive. When I was visiting a squadron, I asked what were things they looked for and one guy said most of the time it's razor thin, everybody has good scores, experience...etc they could pick a different group apps to interview depending on the day or mood. It's tough with the internet becaue they're casting a wide net, back in the day you'll just grab a drink and hang out with them and they'll think "MeekTiger is a cool cat, let's make him a pilot...etc"

Also, update for the 327th, I received a phone screening, they're calling whoever made their score cutoffs, but they received well over 100 apps and only plan to invite a few for interviews since the board date is close and they don't want to waste people's time and money bringing in a bunch of people to interview. They expect to send interview invites this week.

Edited August 31, 2022 by MeekTiger0824

[BayouMilitiaHiring]

The 122FS is expecting to have a UPT board in the spring of 2023, with squadron visits/rush events starting back up November drill 2022.

 

These rush events involve visiting the squadron Friday/Saturday and a social event on the town Saturday afternoon. They are by invite and require a completed/qualifying application to attend. Invites will be sent out about a month out to allow time to plan travel. 

 

Requirements for a completed application are below. In addition to that please fill out the one page powerpoint document that is attached (this helps us put names to faces during visits). Submit this powerpoint as a separate document to your application.

 

Your application should include the following items, in order, in a SINGLE PDF file:

1.     Cover letter addressed to the 122FS Hiring Board stating the position you are interested in interviewing for and outlining your qualifications.

2.     Printout of your AFOQT and PCSM Scores from the official website.

3.     Resume to include civilian, military, and sports experience (Please make this as comprehensive as possible on a single page, it will be heavily weighted.)

4.     Transcript Summary from an accredited 4-year or higher degree.

5.     Minimum of 3 letters of recommendation. Address to: UPT Selection Board

6.     If prior service, your last two EPR/OPRs. Redact any sensitive info like SSN.

7.    A current photo and date of birth.

Submit this information as well as any questions you may have to 122fspilothiring@gmail.com

Good luck!

Last,First,2023UPT.pptx

[MeekTiger0824]

Anybody heard back from the 327th? They were suppose to send out invites by this week. 

[GreenArc]

2 hours ago, MeekTiger0824 said:

Anybody heard back from the 327th? They were suppose to send out invites by this week. 

Nothing on this end brother!