HeloDude Posted March 21 Posted March 21 What’s pretty interesting is how much the left have dug their heals in on this issue the last several years. In the late 2000s, the Dems were all about calling them “legal immigrants”, and even when they switched to “undocumented” under Obama, his admin was still deporting them. Now Biden is apologizing for calling an alleged murderer, here illegally, an “illegal”, and actually trying to stop Texas from curbing illegal immigration…all during what is being called a “border crisis”. I don’t know how accurate the polling is, but from what I’ve seen, a sizable majority doesn’t seem to be with the left on this issue. Be interesting to see how this affects November, especially in non-blue states where incumbent Dem Senators are trying to hold onto their seats. 1
Clark Griswold Posted March 22 Author Posted March 22 Watch your rental houses if between leases ‘Invade Abandoned Houses’: Venezuelan Migrant Promotes Taking Advantage of ‘Squatters Rights’ in Viral Video https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2024/03/21/invade-abandoned-houses-venezuelan-migrant-promotes-taking-advantage-of-squatters-rights-in-viral-video/Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
Standby Posted March 22 Posted March 22 59 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said: Watch your rental houses if between leases ‘Invade Abandoned Houses’: Venezuelan Migrant Promotes Taking Advantage of ‘Squatters Rights’ in Viral Video https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2024/03/21/invade-abandoned-houses-venezuelan-migrant-promotes-taking-advantage-of-squatters-rights-in-viral-video/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3
M2 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Today in El Paso... 🤬🤬🤬 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/migrants-overpower-texas-national-guard-tear-down-border-fence/ar-BB1kjetf Time to change the ROE. Jennie Taer - BREAKING A riot just broke out here in El Paso Hundreds of migrants decided they had enough of TX National Guard returning them to Mexico and ru.mp4 J. Omar Ornelas - Hundreds of migrants were pushed south of the concertina wire in the middle of the night by Texas National Guard. Hours later they again breac.mp4 2
arg Posted March 22 Posted March 22 (edited) Louisiana national guard on their way to help Texas secure the border. Edited March 22 by arg 5
tac airlifter Posted March 23 Posted March 23 On 3/21/2024 at 9:43 PM, Sua Sponte said: Homie is about to find out about the Castle Doctrine. Do any blue states have a castle doctrine? I’m ignorant of the law here and I only own one house I occupy.
Lord Ratner Posted March 23 Posted March 23 3 minutes ago, tac airlifter said: Do any blue states have a castle doctrine? I’m ignorant of the law here and I only own one house I occupy. Yes, California does. Just like a medieval castle, outsiders are allowed to enter under the declaration of parlay, in order to petition the homeowner. Anyone under the protection of parlay must be offered food and protection for the duration of their visit, lest the honor of the homeowner be impugned at Royal Court. 1
Sua Sponte Posted March 24 Posted March 24 10 hours ago, tac airlifter said: Do any blue states have a castle doctrine? I’m ignorant of the law here and I only own one house I occupy. Colorado and Washington do. A lot of blue states have the Castle Doctrine. Castle Doctrine first appeared specific to state and local laws in 1985 in Colorado. Colorado’s law shielded people from criminal and civil liability for using force against a home invader. 1 2
M2 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 58 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said: Colorado and Washington do. A lot of blue states have the Castle Doctrine. Castle Doctrine first appeared specific to state and local laws in 1985 in Colorado. Colorado’s law shielded people from criminal and civil liability for using force against a home invader. Yeah, two states that are trying hard to make it nearly impossible for anyone to have a gun... A lot of good Castle Doctrine will do for anyone if they can't arm themselves! 1
M2 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Stand your ground law by US jurisdiction Stand-your-ground by statute Stand-your-ground by judicial decision or jury instruction Duty to retreat except in one's home Duty to retreat except in one's home or workplace Duty to retreat except in one's home or vehicle or workplace Middle-ground approach Thirty-eight states are stand-your-ground states, all but eight by statutes providing "that there is no duty to retreat from an attacker in any place in which one is lawfully present": Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa,[23] Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio,[24][25][26] Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, and Wyoming; Puerto Rico is also stand-your-ground.[27][28] Of these, at least eleven include "may stand his or her ground" language (Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and South Dakota.)[28] Pennsylvania limits the no-duty-to-retreat principle to situations where the defender is resisting attack with a deadly weapon.[29] The other eight states[30] have case law/precedent or jury instructions so providing: California,[31][32] Colorado,[33][34] Illinois, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont,[35] Virginia,[36] and Washington;[37][38] the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands also falls within this category. Eleven states impose a duty to retreat when one can do so with absolute safety: Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York and Rhode Island. New York, however, does not require retreat when one is threatened with robbery, burglary, kidnapping, or sexual assault. Washington, D.C. adopts a "middle ground" approach, under which "The law does not require a person to retreat," but "in deciding whether [defendant] reasonably at the time of the incident believed that s/he was in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm and that deadly force was necessary to repel that danger, you may consider, along with any other evidence, whether the [defendant] could have safely retreated ... but did not."[39] Wisconsin also adopts a "middle ground" approach, where "while there is no statutory duty to retreat, whether the opportunity to retreat was available goes to whether the defendant reasonably believed the force used was necessary to prevent an interference with his or her person."[40] There is no settled rule on the subject in American Samoa and the U.S. Virgin Islands. In all duty to retreat states, the duty to retreat does not apply when the defender is in the defender's home (except, in some jurisdictions, when the defender is defending against a fellow occupant of that home). This is known as the "castle doctrine". In Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, and Nebraska, the duty to retreat also does not apply when the defender is in the defender's place of work; the same is true in Wisconsin and Guam, but only if the defender is the owner or operator of the workplace. In Wisconsin and Guam, the duty to retreat also does not apply when the defender is in the defender's vehicle. Twenty-two states have laws that "provide civil immunity under certain self-defense circumstances" (Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia, and Wisconsin).[28] At least six states have laws stating that "civil remedies are unaffected by criminal provisions of self-defense law" (Hawaii, Missouri, Nebraska, New Jersey, North Dakota, and Tennessee).[28] 3 1 1
Sua Sponte Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Things are going well for the idiots that run Denver. https://x.com/KyleClark/status/1773881376397316445?s=20 1 1
bfargin Posted March 30 Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Sua Sponte said: Things are going well for the idiots that run Denver. https://x.com/KyleClark/status/1773881376397316445?s=20 The dumbasses in NYC are managing well too. I saw a video of one of the leftist city council members who ranted about locking up Daniel Penny when he saved lives on the subway. She was complaining that men aren't stepping up to defend women who are getting assaulted (sucker punched, molested, pushed down stairs, etc) in the streets. A rational person won't interfere if they know they'll get in trouble for taking out the criminal.
brabus Posted March 30 Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Sua Sponte said: Things are going well for the idiots that run Denver. https://x.com/KyleClark/status/1773881376397316445?s=20 Fuck ‘em, Denver can burn for all I care. Much like public education, it needs to burn to ashes (figuratively) so it can be rebuilt to something good and CO can be the great state it was 30 years ago. Pipe dream probably. 1 3
Lord Ratner Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Absolutely hilarious. Greg Abbott should be remembered for the single most effective political stunt in American history
ClearedHot Posted March 30 Posted March 30 6 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: Absolutely hilarious. Greg Abbott should be remembered for the single most effective political stunt in American history It will be interesting to see if this issue is strong enough to overpower abortion as the deciding factor in the next election. Right now the polls would indicate it is...I simply don't understand why our liberal friends think this situation is acceptable. 1
Sua Sponte Posted March 30 Posted March 30 2 hours ago, ClearedHot said: It will be interesting to see if this issue is strong enough to overpower abortion as the deciding factor in the next election. Right now the polls would indicate it is...I simply don't understand why our liberal friends think this situation is acceptable. They think it's acceptable when they live on their lesbian commune in Boulder, which still hasn't fully supported Denver with the migrant influx, while doing virtue signaling on social media. However, whenever the migrants start to appear in their neighborhoods while drinking their overpriced lattes or while shopping at their farmer's market, their NIMBYism comes out strong. The residence of Martha's Vinyard were more than happy to escort the migrants to the bus to take them out of their town as soon as their took their photo op showing them giving them a sandwich and coat. 1
Prosuper Posted March 30 Posted March 30 13 hours ago, Sua Sponte said: Things are going well for the idiots that run Denver. https://x.com/KyleClark/status/1773881376397316445?s=20 How about the idiots who vote for the idiots that run Denver. It's getting to the point that the Peterson SFB commissary is the most north I want to go in Colorado. Have to go to Boulder for a forest fire fighter class soon, looking forward to all the rainbow hair color spectrum LBGTQ I'll be seeing.
dream big Posted March 30 Posted March 30 32 minutes ago, Prosuper said: How about the idiots who vote for the idiots that run Denver. It's getting to the point that the Peterson SFB commissary is the most north I want to go in Colorado. Have to go to Boulder for a forest fire fighter class soon, looking forward to all the rainbow hair color spectrum LBGTQ I'll be seeing. Just enjoy the craft beer, it’s one thing the hippies have on the rest of the country, just one. 1
Sua Sponte Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Prosuper said: How about the idiots who vote for the idiots that run Denver. It's getting to the point that the Peterson SFB commissary is the most north I want to go in Colorado. Have to go to Boulder for a forest fire fighter class soon, looking forward to all the rainbow hair color spectrum LBGTQ I'll be seeing. Do you mean the self-proclaimed "Democratic Socialists?" This idiot is the first Gen Z rep in the CO General Assembly. Besides being in his 20s and looking like he's 40, he's too buy replacing the US flag at his desk in the House with a Palestine one, sponsoring a "Chicano/Chicana" license plate (like CO needs any more license plates), and "an assault weapons ban." https://twitter.com/_timhernandez?lang=en To the citizens of Denver who are now pissed the mayor is cutting $180M in the city's budget to pay for migrants, you get what you vote for. Edited March 30 by Sua Sponte
Sua Sponte Posted March 30 Posted March 30 20 minutes ago, dream big said: Just enjoy the craft beer, it’s one thing the hippies have on the rest of the country, just one. Beer in the PNW is better and I grew up in the Front Range area. Avery Brewery in Boulder is pretty great though. 1
HeloDude Posted March 30 Posted March 30 The beautiful thing about the US is that as bad as the federal government is, a lot of the state/local governments differ quite a bit—move to one that more closely matches your values and desires. 1
Lord Ratner Posted March 30 Posted March 30 5 hours ago, ClearedHot said: It will be interesting to see if this issue is strong enough to overpower abortion as the deciding factor in the next election. Right now the polls would indicate it is...I simply don't understand why our liberal friends think this situation is acceptable. I think if it was a year ago, abortion would have a lot more weight. But fortunately the process is going the way I had hoped, and each state is coming up with their own rules, which will never shut up the activists, but will absolutely shut up the voters, who do not make huge distinctions between state and federal law, as long as they agree with it. More voters will be satisfied with abortion law as a result of the Supreme Court's action. And whatever damage it did in the election in 2022 I think was overridden by the absolute dog shit slate of candidates that Trump got on the ballots. Of course, if Republicans try to make abortion a federal issue again, which some of them are, they'll get exactly what they deserve. (Sidebar, if anyone is interested we can start a new thread on my theory that in our lifetime contraceptives and abortion will be outright outlawed as more countries grapple with the painful results of population decline.) As to immigration, I honestly don't know. While I do believe there is an element of society, especially in academia, who are trying to covertly flip over the system in order to rebuild it in a postmodernist, pseudo Marxist fashion, I generally don't give those conspiracies the credit of wide scale participation at the political level. But the continued insistence of many Democrats to support this absolute dumpster fire at the border is truly mystifying. I know they see the same polls that show how unpopular open borders are, and I know they see the polls that show Donald Trump taking the lead in a matchup with Biden, so whatever reason they are refusing to adapt is not because of political expediency. That only leaves a true desire for an immigration disaster, one that would support the eventual "reset" of our Democratic capitalist society into a communist Utopia, or they simply cannot fathom the idea of supporting anything that the opposition supported before them. The fact that Republicans have been anti-illegal immigration simply excludes the possibility of Democrats ever changing their mind? Either way, immigration coupled with Joe biden's obvious and continued decline is going to cost them the election. Unfortunately that means Donald Trump is going to win, which while the 4 years of his presidency will probably be marked by great policy and less chaos, it is very likely he triggers the same response that leads to another idiotic Democrat winning the following election and undoing whatever good things he accomplishes. Or maybe not since he can't run again. Until the war kicks off at least. Then we restart the cycle. 1
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