Border crisis

[Standby]

4 hours ago, dream big said:

Just enjoy the craft beer, it’s one thing the hippies have on the rest of the country, just one.

Oh great…another shitty IPA courtesy of these folks. They can have their “craft” beer. 

[ClearedHot]

Anyone watch FBI Director Wray's testimony yesterday on renewing FISA?  "A coordinated attack on the U.S. is likely."  He tried to say it without saying it, the border has let a lot of bad actors in and we are about to reap the outcome.  The administration is now signalling Biden will come out with an executive order the end of April on the border so he can claim he fixed it...even though he has been saying he doesn't have that power for the past three years.

[ClearedHot]

2 people in ICE custody after attempting to breach Virginia Marine base

Two similar incidents at Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center Twentynine Palms, California over the past six months.

Chinese nationals have accessed military installations and other sensitive facilities in the United States around 100 times in recent years, sometimes by posing as tourists, The Wall Street Journal reported in September 2023.

Nothing to see here...no impact at all from open borders.

[Biff_T]

I'm on an all Mexican American soccer team.   Im the only white guy (non latino) in the entire league.  The guys on my team are good people.  They have a huge family and they like Trump.   Several of my Mexican Ameican buds prefer Trump, as a matter of fact, all of them do.    

[Clark Griswold]

Be careful out there

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2024/05/27/new-info-related-to-shooting-death-of-chechen-national-who-was-on-army-special-forces-soldiers-property-n2174705

[Clark Griswold]

Just in time for the election here, if Maduro “wins” then expect a building movement of Venezuelans applying for asylum 

https://dnyuz.com/2024/07/18/losing-hope-venezuelans-vow-to-leave-their-country-if-maduro-wins/
 

I’m fairly hard line on illegal immigration and skeptical of asylum claims but I see this being a case where it’s not asylum in the traditional sense but respite / refuge from a failing state.  I’m not for necessarily a mass waiver to allow automatic entry but a national discussion then policy to have a plan, not holding my breath…

[Lord Ratner]

1 hour ago, Clark Griswold said:

Just in time for the election here, if Maduro “wins” then expect a building movement of Venezuelans applying for asylum 

https://dnyuz.com/2024/07/18/losing-hope-venezuelans-vow-to-leave-their-country-if-maduro-wins/
 

I’m fairly hard line on illegal immigration and skeptical of asylum claims but I see this being a case where it’s not asylum in the traditional sense but respite / refuge from a failing state.  I’m not for necessarily a mass waiver to allow automatic entry but a national discussion then policy to have a plan, not holding my breath…

Who's job is it to fix Venezuela if not the Venezuelans? 

 

Zero asylum for adults males and childless females. 

[Clark Griswold]

Who's job is it to fix Venezuela if not the Venezuelans? 
 
Zero asylum for adults males and childless females. 

Concur on a basic level your point in whose responsibility is it to fix failing/dysfunctional systems but the reality is Maduro and his regime aren’t going anywhere anytime soon so a policy that minimizes the pull while reasonably dealing with the push causing them to wind up asking for asylum seems reasonable
I’d be good with only women with children in their custody if the child is genetically proven to be that woman’s child / children as a priority / only allowed group


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[StoleIt]

Definitely disagree with your refugee policy. I, myself, would like to fully enact Sir Ali G's policy:

 

[Lord Ratner]

12 hours ago, Clark Griswold said:

Concur on a basic level your point in whose responsibility is it to fix failing/dysfunctional systems but the reality is Maduro and his regime aren’t going anywhere anytime soon so a policy that minimizes the pull while reasonably dealing with the push causing them to wind up asking for asylum seems reasonable
I’d be good with only women with children in their custody if the child is genetically proven to be that woman’s child / children as a priority / only allowed group


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What? 

 

Maduro goes when he is killed. The Venezuelans should get on it. I get what you're saying, but if they don't get rid of him, he will be replaced by another "not going anywhere" dictator. Kinda how he replaced Chavez...

[tac airlifter]

13 hours ago, Clark Griswold said:

Concur on a basic level your point in whose responsibility is it to fix failing/dysfunctional systems but the reality is Maduro and his regime aren’t going anywhere anytime soon so a policy that minimizes the pull while reasonably dealing with the push causing them to wind up asking for asylum seems reasonable
I’d be good with only women with children in their custody if the child is genetically proven to be that woman’s child / children as a priority / only allowed group


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Sorry Clark, you aren't getting my vote.  

[Clark Griswold]

What? 
 
Maduro goes when he is killed. The Venezuelans should get on it. I get what you're saying, but if they don't get rid of him, he will be replaced by another "not going anywhere" dictator. Kinda how he replaced Chavez...

Yeah I know like Raul replaced Fidel
These regimes like the Kim dynasty are unfortunately resilient as they’ve got patrons (China, Russia) and have figured out a balance of taking to reward supporters to get them to intimidate the remaining population but not enough to coalesce a legitimate capable threat to them
My point is to have a policy to encourage that change in their societies by not being a relief valve but still dealing humanely with those arriving at our borders who we should help, and this being explicitly stated

Sorry Clark, you aren't getting my vote.  

No worries


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[uhhello]

Our border isn't the first they cross

[Clark Griswold]

Our border isn't the first they cross

Yup, just like Europe they skip countries where benefits / jobs are scarce
I’m all for states / countries / cities / individuals voluntarily funding asylum seekers if they want with said asylum seekers given geographically restricted temporary visas with states / counties / cities not interested in that being able to bar / arrest / remove said asylum seekers if they leave the confines of their visa but we would have to still have federalism in practice to have that and we’ve been foolishly centralizing political power since the 30’s
Just as we have LOAC but we still apply violence to achieve national security objectives we should apply force to prevent / remove illegal aliens but not have some mercy on some people truly in need of asylum
I’m for coming up with a plan as this problem of people fleeing poverty / dysfunction is only likely to get worse and it’s NOT our sole responsibility amongst the wealthy and developed nations to absorb millions upon millions of people, we can take some but not nearly as many as the Left / Globalists imply we should
We either figure out how to get to something sustainable and realistic or as the situation gets worse we will get someone who will take matters further than we want


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[O Face]

Spot on again. 

[ClearedHot]

The DNC and the main stream media just launched a campaign to disassociate her from the Border Czar assignment.  The troll Joy Reid tried to deny she was ever given that assignment.

[kaputt]

 

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Biden tasks Harris with tackling migrant influx on US-Mexico border

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56516332

Straight from the right wing outlet, BBC, in 2021. 

These people are absolute clowns. 

If you believe polls, Harris seems to have closed the gap Biden had to Trump in many battleground states. Simply from being presumptively nominated. 

[ClearedHot]

38 minutes ago, kaputt said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56516332

Straight from the right wing outlet, BBC, in 2021. 

These people are absolute clowns. 

If you believe polls, Harris seems to have closed the gap Biden had to Trump in many battleground states. Simply from being presumptively nominated. 

She got a dead cat lady bounce, but she is still WAY behind in the electoral college math.

 

[dream big]

It’s going to be pretty embarrassing for the democrats when Trump beats their female candidate twice. I would also love for the first female president to be a Republican - just to rob the DEI obsessed mafia of that and elicit their hypocrisy. 

[ClearedHot]

4 hours ago, dream big said:

It’s going to be pretty embarrassing for the democrats when Trump beats their female candidate twice. I would also love for the first female president to be a Republican - just to rob the DEI obsessed mafia of that and elicit their hypocrisy. 

They will just charge and impeach him for beating the crap out of a woman on a national stage.

[StoleIt]

On 7/27/2024 at 7:04 AM, dream big said:

It’s going to be pretty embarrassing for the democrats when Trump beats their female candidate twice. I would also love for the first female president to be a Republican - just to rob the DEI obsessed mafia of that and elicit their hypocrisy. 

People are quick to forget (maybe rightfully so) the first female VP candidate was a Republican. The tolerant left also tore her to pieces (maybe rightfully so).

[ClearedHot]

On 3/30/2024 at 12:00 PM, HeloDude said:

The beautiful thing about the US is that as bad as the federal government is, a lot of the state/local governments differ quite a bit—move to one that more closely matches your values and desires.

The state and county races are brutal right now.  I live in Matt Gaetz's district and he is up for re-election.  There is a Super PAC running attack ads against him implying he slept with a minor and at the end of the ad they post his DUI picture as if to suggest he was arrested for sleeping with a minor.  I am not a fan of the dude, but dayum.

Even worse is our race for County Commissioner.  One of the dude's up for re-election is a real work of art.  He went into a local store and didn't know they had cameras, he openly asked if he could avoid sales tax (the tax that pays his salary), if he paid cash, then he went on to tell the store owner he was going to "Jew him down."  It made the national news, he refused to resign and is now leading the race.

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1 hour ago, StoleIt said:

People are quick to forget (maybe rightfully so) the first female VP candidate was a Republican. The tolerant left also tore her to pieces (maybe rightfully so).

I think you're forgetting one.

[StoleIt]

1 hour ago, arg said:

I think you're forgetting one.

Bah, serves me right for speaking out of my ass (and being in diapers in the 80s):

Geraldine Anne Ferraro (1984) - Ferraro was the first woman vice presidential nominee of a major U.S. party. Shortly before the Democratic National Convention in July of 1984, Ferraro was named by Walter F. Mondale as his choice for the vice-presidency. The ticket received 13 electoral votes. Born on August 26, 1935, in Newburgh, New York, she attended Marymount Manhattan College and Fordham University Law School. She was an assistant district attorney in Queens, New York. She won election to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1978 and was subsequently elected to two more terms.