Border crisis

[Lawman]

Not getting better in Mexico

Drones Used by Cartel Gunmen to Attack Mexican Police Amid Expanding Turf War

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2024/11/26/cartel-gunmen-use-drones-to-attack-mexican-police-amid-expanding-turf-war/

I’m not saying let’s occupy Mexico but start thinking about stabilization operations in our hemisphere


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They need to change their constitution to allow for a military partnership necessary to achieve anything.

The previous president was in no way gonna go for that. Current one probably won’t either as she follows lot of the shadow she came up in. Unfortunately too much political favor to be made opposing Trump to actual work with him even when it would be for their end benefit.


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[Clark Griswold]

2 hours ago, Lawman said:

They need to change their constitution to allow for a military partnership necessary to achieve anything.

The previous president was in no way gonna go for that. Current one probably won’t either as she follows lot of the shadow she came up in. Unfortunately too much political favor to be made opposing Trump to actual work with him even when it would be for their end benefit.

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Yup, like the Philippines 

Yeah, she’s an AMLO protege so I give that 6.9% chance of happening.  I suspect the cartels are still smart enough not to overtly challenge the Mexican government for control of enough territory and keep their internal violence to a level just below that which spells failed state which would not trigger a change to the status quo but then again you get the Jalisco New Generation cartel and they might cross that bridge.

What worries me is that as our state actor enemies survey their options, those cartels look like better and better proxies to cause further problems for us.  Just as we use movements, groups and other non-state actors to cause our enemies problems.  

[ClearedHot]

 

[disgruntledemployee]

Dang, my ol girl is more expensive than Barney.  PS, who is even flying E models these days?  Iraqi AF?

"According to the DOD comptroller, as of fall 2022, the average hourly cost of operating a C-17 was about $21,000 and the average hourly cost of operating a C-130E was between $68,000 and $71,000. Based on these figures it can be estimated that the C-17 flight on Thursday that carried 80 migrants from El Paso, Texas to Guatemala City would have cost roughly $252,000. For the same 12-hour flight using the C-130E, it would cost between $816,000 and $852,000."

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/trumps-first-deportation-flights-average-931578

[CaptainMorgan]

Dang, my ol girl is more expensive than Barney.  PS, who is even flying E models these days?  Iraqi AF?
"According to the DOD comptroller, as of fall 2022, the average hourly cost of operating a C-17 was about $21,000 and the average hourly cost of operating a C-130E was between $68,000 and $71,000. Based on these figures it can be estimated that the C-17 flight on Thursday that carried 80 migrants from El Paso, Texas to Guatemala City would have cost roughly $252,000. For the same 12-hour flight using the C-130E, it would cost between $816,000 and $852,000."
https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/trumps-first-deportation-flights-average-931578

Maybe the number was for an EC-130?


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[arg]

The operating cost of the entire C-130E fleet right now is zero.

[Swizzle]

4 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

Dang, my ol girl is more expensive than Barney.  PS, who is even flying E models these days?  Iraqi AF?

"According to the DOD comptroller, as of fall 2022, the average hourly cost of operating a C-17 was about $21,000 and the average hourly cost of operating a C-130E was between $68,000 and $71,000. Based on these figures it can be estimated that the C-17 flight on Thursday that carried 80 migrants from El Paso, Texas to Guatemala City would have cost roughly $252,000. For the same 12-hour flight using the C-130E, it would cost between $816,000 and $852,000."

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/trumps-first-deportation-flights-average-931578

Who cares when instead I saved 50% off of an exhorbitant MSRP; the Model Y was only 500B when it would've been 1T!  /s

Red Herring to avoid anchoring on C-17 price per hour.

 

Edited Saturday at 11:53 PM by Swizzle
Off of or of or off, who knows

[Clark Griswold]

Winning.

Colombia’s Petro Backs Down: Sending Personal Plane to Pick Up Migrants After Trump Announced Sanctions

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/01/26/colombias-petro-backs-down-sending-personal-plane-to-pick-up-migrants-after-trump-announced-sanctions/


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[HeloDude]

Saw someone post this on FB:

Democrats say "Who is going to pick the fruits and vegetables?" I say " Where are the farms in Chicago?"

[uhhello]

It most definitely is going to have an impact nation wide on the labor industry.  There are hundreds of tweets showing factory/business parking lots empty due to the deportation fears.  Lots of industries probably freaking out internally knowing a large chunk of their workforce isn't supposed to be working for them.   Will be interesting.  

[arg]

43 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

Saw someone post this on FB:

Democrats say "Who is going to pick the fruits and vegetables?" I say " Where are the farms in Chicago?"

Democrats were asking that same question back in around 1862?

[HeloDude]

2 hours ago, uhhello said:

There are hundreds of tweets showing factory/business parking lots empty due to the deportation fears. 

I already said I support Trump’s plan, you don’t need to sell me on it…

End the massive welfare state we have and people will go back to work.  And if we “need” more workers (ie we don’t have any enough citizens to work after the welfare is cut), then we let people in to do those jobs, but with massive conditions. 
 

Progressives just want new voters…and if you don’t believe me, put up a bill where nonviolent illegal aliens get to stay but they never get to apply for citizenship.  They’ll never go for it.

[Clark Griswold]

It most definitely is going to have an impact nation wide on the labor industry.  There are hundreds of tweets showing factory/business parking lots empty due to the deportation fears.  Lots of industries probably freaking out internally knowing a large chunk of their workforce isn't supposed to be working for them.   Will be interesting.  

It’ll bring out millions of Americans that will work just not for slave wages and in decent conditions.
The corporate tech investor class has been date raping the American worker for decades while preening about nonsense to infuriate and distract the middle class and antagonize/divide.
My hope is that when workplace raids happen at a job site they occur simultaneously with the serving of warrants at that company’s headquarters.


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[Milton]

I'm having a hard time understanding the relationship between the ~12M illegal migrants who showed up uninvited over the past 4 years and the labor market. We've always had seasonal workers in agriculture and low-skill jobs, those were managed on a periodic basis and if I had to wager a guess it was a few hundred thousand per year, under specified circumstances. If they weren't bringing kids/family there was also less concern about impacts on public spending on education, Medicaid, etc.

But somehow these 12M or so migrants were all benefitting the economy and keeping prices down? Strange, we've had pretty record inflation over the same period we've had high in-migration. Would inflation have been worse if we didn't let them waltz across the border? There seems to be a handful in NYC and Chicago picking up day jobs for uber eats and similar under-the-table ventures, but a good share of them are subsisting off govt cheese in hotels and shelters, kids getting placed in local schools with all sorts of ancillary needs, blue states offering medicaid programs, etc. 

When we talk about immigration, migrants, labor markets, etc we should be very specific about numbers, circumstances, externalities, etc. A dozen eggs were $1.29 3 or so years ago, now they're around $3-4 (bird flu, inflation, fuel, etc). Am I to believe that if we deport a large chunk of these migrants eggs will reach $7? Why weren't eggs $7 BEFORE all this migration happened?

More vague, anachronistic abstractions from the do-gooders and chattering class.

Edited yesterday at 12:37 AM by Milton
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[uhhello]

21 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

It’ll bring out millions of Americans that will work just not for slave wages and in decent conditions.
The corporate tech investor class has been date raping the American worker for decades while preening about nonsense to infuriate and distract the middle class and antagonize/divide.
My hope is that when workplace raids happen at a job site they occur simultaneously with the serving of warrants at that company’s headquarters.


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No disagreement.  Just saying the disruption won't be 'minor' for quite a while.  

[BashiChuni]

Things were fine before 2021 when Biden dumped 10+ million ILLEGALS into our country. Things will be fine when they’re gone. More fear porn. 

[uhhello]

20 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

Things were fine before 2021 when Biden dumped 10+ million ILLEGALS into our country. Things will be fine when they’re gone. More fear porn. 

I think there is a greater enforcement fear compared to the pre-2021 days.   There are going to be a lot more self deportations and greater scrutiny on the businesses benefitting from the illegal workers.  No way around ripping off the band aid though.

[fire4effect]

23 hours ago, HeloDude said:

Saw someone post this on FB:

Democrats say "Who is going to pick the fruits and vegetables?" I say " Where are the farms in Chicago?"

City Hall

[Sua Sponte]

3 hours ago, fire4effect said:

City Hall

Mayor will be in federal prison by then.