The Next President is...

[17D_guy]

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The hilarious irony is that Donald Trump, the great vulgarian, has accomplished more conservative policy goals than any Republican in the past 50 years. I really do wish there was a way to get that without the tweeting, the narcissism, or any of the other myriad character flaws he possesses. But there isn't. And Kamala, who has a decent chance at being president, publicly called for equality of outcome. No thanks.

Than Reagan?  Really?

[Lord Ratner]

52 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

Than Reagan?  Really?

I think it's at least close. Policy, not philosophy. Regan spent a lot, like Trump, so that's a wash. Peace in the middle East and tough on China (compared to anyone else) is certainly a huge win. Tax reform. Massive deregulation, expansion of energy independence, reigning in title IX, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, three supreme court justices, all fairly strong conservatives, like 100 federal judges, enforcement of NATO contributions, the first real punches thrown at critical race theory, and at least the attempt at slowing illegal immigration. 

 

I think when you judge them as conservatives compared to their respective eras, Trump is up there. I credit his advisors, his son in law, Mitch Mcconnell, Stephen Miller, and many others, but it's still his administration, and he chose to empower those people.

[M2]

As of 0631L this morning...

https://www.wusa9.com/elections-2020-map

[Sim]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[gearhog]

20 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

The hilarious irony is that Donald Trump, the great vulgarian, has accomplished more conservative policy goals than any Republican in the past 50 years. I really do wish there was a way to get that without the tweeting, the narcissism, or any of the other myriad character flaws he possesses. But there isn't. And Kamala, who has a decent chance at being president, publicly called for equality of outcome. No thanks.

I was thinking this morning Trump's like the Herc of politicians. Loud, lots of weird noises, not the most handsome on the ramp, requires lots of maintenance, probably smells bad... many people would say it's just generally offensive to most of the senses.

But the capabilities! Anyone who bothers to look beyond the surface knows it does damn near anything you need it to do to protect the country. Prang it into the ground and it bounces back and keeps flying. Can take a bullet. Performs as well as anything else in the midst of chaos. It's why we keep it around. 😆

 

[Guardian]

All I know is that I couldn’t vote for a lying, racist, homophobic person that couldn’t handle the Corona virus let alone his own family. Hence I did not vote for Biden.

[jrizzell]

1 hour ago, M2 said:

As of 0631L this morning...

https://www.wusa9.com/elections-2020-map

The election results aren’t going to be official for weeks. At least with a landslide victory there would have been quick resolution. Now it’s going to be non-stop “mystery ballot boxes appearing” and “count every vote, even if it arrived a week late” rhetoric until it gets resolved by the SCOTUS....basically right on brand for 2020

Edited November 4, 2020 by jrizzell

[Guardian]

So you are saying our next President will be Nancy Pelosi?

[uhhello]

"Shoot like a girl" lost in Texas

[DosXX]

On 11/2/2020 at 1:19 PM, Seadogs said:

See you tomorrow. 

Do tell us more about this "landslide" you were so confident about

[CharlieHotel47]

"Shoot like a girl" lost in Texas

Was that the Helo gal that called her sister Pedro ship a coward for not picking her up?


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[kaputt]

The other Jo may end up being Joe’s saving grace in a few of these states. 

[uhhello]

1 hour ago, CharlieHotel47 said:

 

Was that the Helo gal that called her sister Pedro ship a coward for not picking her up?


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Yes  Failed House and Senate run now.

[VMFA187]

Biden wins. Trump has/will win GA, NC, and PA. He must then win either MI or WI and will win neither. 

The plus side is I think this buys more for Conservatives in the long term like the article someone posted here (I think.) Fortunately Conservatives maintain control of the Senate which means Biden/Kamala can't really accomplish much of their leftist agenda. But in two and four years there will be a big swing back right from what is arguably already center, which shows how biased the MSM is. 

[Seadogs]

2 hours ago, DosXX said:

Do tell us more about this "landslide" you were so confident about

Yup, it aged horrible. To the courts we go. 

[Seadogs]

32 minutes ago, VMFA187 said:

Biden wins. Trump has/will win GA, NC, and PA. He must then win either MI or WI and will win neither. 

The plus side is I think this buys more for Conservatives in the long term like the article someone posted here (I think.) Fortunately Conservatives maintain control of the Senate which means Biden/Kamala can't really accomplish much of their leftist agenda. But in two and four years there will be a big swing back right from what is arguably already center, which shows how biased the MSM is. 

Trump could still win with the courts. Not feeling too great about it but he could also technically win PA and NV but I'm not holding my breathe. 

 

Your second comment is interesting though. If it is true that AZ trended blue this cycle, I think TX will follow for 2024. What can conservatives do after AZ and TX are blue off the starting line? Conservatives concede abortion? Amnesty? Guns? Won't that pretty much be the end of conservatives? 

[pawnman]

57 minutes ago, Seadogs said:

Trump could still win with the courts. Not feeling too great about it but he could also technically win PA and NV but I'm not holding my breathe. 

 

Your second comment is interesting though. If it is true that AZ trended blue this cycle, I think TX will follow for 2024. What can conservatives do after AZ and TX are blue off the starting line? Conservatives concede abortion? Amnesty? Guns? Won't that pretty much be the end of conservatives? 

Amnesty for illegal immigrants would be my pick if I were running the party.  Trade border security for a path to legalization for anyone already here.  Carve out restrictions for people with convictions for violent crime.  Pair it with an immigration system that makes it faster, cheaper, and easier to enter the US legally, instead of the years-long bureaucratic nightmare we have now.

I'd probably also concede the abortion thing.  Roe V Wade was, what, 50 years ago?  That law is settled.  Stop alienating new people by continuing to attack it.  Attack the funding, sure...but stop trying to stuff the genie back in the bottle.  It's not going to happen.

Edited November 4, 2020 by pawnman

[Prozac]

23 minutes ago, TheLaughingCow said:

It looks like we are in for an extremely weak federal government. Biden presidency with hardly any mandate, and he will have his hands tied by the Republican Senate and a small Democrat majority in the house.

I doubt we'll see much legislative action from either party for the next 2 years at least.  This is probably why Facebook stock is soaring today.

If Biden does win this election, as it is looking like he will, this should be a wake up call for legislators of all stripes. Yes, Trump managed to effectively mobilize his base, but the majority of the country does not want a bombastic pathological liar in the White House. Great. However, as you mentioned, if Biden wins it will be by a very slim margin. Hardly a mandate as you say. It looks like Dems will at best eke out a tie in the senate and not much will change in the house. 
 

I’ll be honest; I was hoping for voters to punish the Republican Party for their unabashed support of Trump and force the party into introspection and change over the next four years. That didn’t happen. The American people have indicated they are not willing to give the Democrats a free hand to pursue what many fear will be radical policies. Fair enough. The message is, then, we’re done with Donald Trump but that doesn’t mean we’re ready for Bernie style “Democratic Socialism”. What the American people need now is for the parties to take a step back and understand that the “mandate” from the voters this time around is that we need them to find a way to cooperate and compromise. We are such an equally divided country it’s time to realize that a razor thin political advantage does not equal a mandate. The only way forward is to recognize the legitimacy and desires of the other side and try to find common ground wherever it exists. 
 

Am I hopeful that will happen? Not really. If Trump loses he will litigate as long as he can and will continue to whine about it until the day he dies. Many, many of his supporters will eat it up and the US Government will be forever illegitimate in their eyes. Not good. The only truly positive change I think will take place will be the fact that we won’t have a president who constantly attempts to inflame the American population. It’s a start I guess. 

[Guardian]

Sadly there aren’t many humans worse than Biden / Harris. Sadly a lot of the country is voting for emotion and their dislike of trump. Not based on his record vs Biden’s. Very scary. Would I rather trump be a gentlemen like Ronnie? Yeah. But what he has done for our country in four years has been amazing in a very positive way.

[BashiChuni]

biden is a moderate democrat who hasn't rocked the boat for 40+ years

 

I'm not worried about him. He's going to get bullied by his party's radical left.

[dream big]

5 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

biden is a moderate democrat who hasn't rocked the boat for 40+ years

 

I'm not worried about him. He's going to get bullied by his party's radical left.

That’s the elephant in the room isn’t it? If Biden wins he will be 25th amendment’d out in place of Kamala.  She’s probably laughing like a Hyena right now.  Not over yet though. 

[BashiChuni]

30 minutes ago, dream big said:

That’s the elephant in the room isn’t it? If Biden wins he will be 25th amendment’d out in place of Kamala.  She’s probably laughing like a Hyena right now.  Not over yet though. 

i'm not even worried about her. its the radical element of the party that will have influence (warren, sanders, AOC(super hot, great rack))

[Guardian]

Wasn’t she voted the most radical or progressive democrat?

[jrizzell]

1 hour ago, Guardian said:

Wasn’t she voted the most radical or progressive democrat?

Yes

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/kamala_harris/412678/report-card/2019

[CharlieHotel47]

That’s the elephant in the room isn’t it? If Biden wins he will be 25th amendment’d out in place of Kamala.  She’s probably laughing like a Hyena right now.  Not over yet though. 

If this here happens I can see Kampala putting that ole hag Pelosi, who is freaking 80 yrs old, as her VP. Military budgets would get cut with training $$s getting the biggest hit.




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