The Next President is...

[DosXX]

19 minutes ago, Sim said:

Notice what's missing from this statement? Any mention of the Press. AP does NOT decide the outcome of the Election.

Of course, but at some point it becomes obvious with almost complete certainty. If the electoral votes somehow end up with Trump as the winner I'll be the first on here to accept that as the true result. 

Edited November 7, 2020 by DosXX

[Sua Sponte]

32 minutes ago, Sim said:

Article II of the Constitution:

The President and Vice President [shall be] elected, as follows:

"Each State shall appoint... a Number of Electors... The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot..."

Notice what's missing from this statement? Any mention of the Press. AP does NOT decide the outcome of the Election. 

 

 

[slackline]

Bro, I literally pulled it from going to her page and scrolling down myself and finding it. Not rocket science. 

Didn't scroll to yesterday. My bad, got zero issues admitting I don't Twitter good.


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[slackline]

Quoted for your effective research. Or maybe you choose to only see things that benefit your argument?
I seem to remember a time when socialists took lists of names in history, didn't end up going very well... Wait, maybe that was the "old" history before it was re-written by the Left. 

Don't be a tool. I read it wrong, that's why I asked for a link. He provided it. I was corrected. NBD.

Point still stands, what's wrong with what she's asking? I think k she's way too immature/inexperienced to be good at her job yet, and the GND is a complete non starter, but she's got a point in remembering who the hypocrites are.


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[Sim]

20 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said:

 

 

[Sua Sponte]

6 minutes ago, Sim said:

 

Neither does a candidate. No matter how many times he types in all caps like a Boomer.

[Hopefulflyer389]

[drewpey]

I know this is terrifying times for many of you, but you shouldn't be that worried about the "far left agenda".  In reality across the US there were several very progressive candidates on the ballot and most of them lost by a wide margin.  Even Biden as a fairly bland centrist democrat barely squeaked out a win against Trump, which I think shocked many on the left who were hoping for a bit of a blue wave.  The democratic party won largely due in part to the moderate middle, so enacting "far left" policies is only going to guarantee a loss in 2022, and 2024.

If history is any indicator the democratic party will play it safe by offering relatively centrist policies that have wide public support, and the senate will blockade any progress and blame the white house until you get another authoritarian in office to abdicate power to.  As an added bonus we can go back to pretending to care about the defecit (yay for actual fiscal conservatism!).  If by some freak of nature we take a tie in the senate, anything that gets signed into law will likely be struck down in courts, so again...nothing much to worry about.

If Trump had lost in a landslide and we swept the senate, then I might agree that we are in for some progressive policy changes, but ultimately it's not likely to happen and the party isn't going to blow their political capital slamming their heads against a wall for the next several years.

I'm a bit shocked the race was so close.  Honestly goes to show how lucky we are Trump always doubles down on stupid and refuses to appeal to anyone not in his hardcore base.  Seriously he could have walked out of walter reed and pretended to care about Covid for a month and probably swept Biden and then resumed business as usual.

I just hope out of this mess we can have both sides meet and agree on an election security and voter rights law.  Both of which are needed for us to have faith in our democratic process.

If any of you have your doubts in the election process and the likelihood of voter fraud, I encourage you to get involved and volunteer to work the polls in the next election to see it for yourself first hand, and not just random twitter videos of people pretending to uncover rampant fraud.  Educate yourself.  Be part of the solution.

[Sim]

40 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said:

Neither does a candidate. No matter how many times he types in all caps like a Boomer.

I expect nothing less from tweeter shit-poster in chief. He's been this way from the start.  

Just today he trolled media and had them go to "four seasons" and then add "landscaping" 30 minutes prior.  

[FLEA]

22 minutes ago, drewpey said:

I know this is terrifying times for many of you, but you shouldn't be that worried about the "far left agenda".  In reality across the US there were several very progressive candidates on the ballot and most of them lost by a wide margin.  Even Biden as a fairly bland centrist democrat barely squeaked out a win against Trump, which I think shocked many on the left who were hoping for a bit of a blue wave.  The democratic party won largely due in part to the moderate middle, so enacting "far left" policies is only going to guarantee a loss in 2022, and 2024.

If history is any indicator the democratic party will play it safe by offering relatively centrist policies that have wide public support, and the senate will blockade any progress and blame the white house until you get another authoritarian in office to abdicate power to.  As an added bonus we can go back to pretending to care about the defecit (yay for actual fiscal conservatism!).  If by some freak of nature we take a tie in the senate, anything that gets signed into law will likely be struck down in courts, so again...nothing much to worry about.

If Trump had lost in a landslide and we swept the senate, then I might agree that we are in for some progressive policy changes, but ultimately it's not likely to happen and the party isn't going to blow their political capital slamming their heads against a wall for the next several years.

I'm a bit shocked the race was so close.  Honestly goes to show how lucky we are Trump always doubles down on stupid and refuses to appeal to anyone not in his hardcore base.  Seriously he could have walked out of walter reed and pretended to care about Covid for a month and probably swept Biden and then resumed business as usual.

I just hope out of this mess we can have both sides meet and agree on an election security and voter rights law.  Both of which are needed for us to have faith in our democratic process.

If any of you have your doubts in the election process and the likelihood of voter fraud, I encourage you to get involved and volunteer to work the polls in the next election to see it for yourself first hand, and not just random twitter videos of people pretending to uncover rampant fraud.  Educate yourself.  Be part of the solution.

Here are my observations on Conservative fears:

1.) A second Trump victory would have indicated a historic rejection of the Social Justice principles that have eroded the unity of our society for the last 20 years. It would have made it clear that those principles were not tolerable to the US electorate. This is probably the largest loss in this election for Conservatives, and will likely keep the country divided for another 2 decades. 

2.) Should the Democrats take the Senate, speculation is high they will remove the filibuster and pass an assault weapons ban. 

3.) Also removing the filibuster would allow stacking the Supreme Court. 

4.) On a whole though, 2 and 3 don't look possible for this term. Its unlikely Democrats will get a strong mid term showing, and first mid terms for new party are usually a correction in the other direction. So I think chances are good they will not have either house in 2 years. 

5.) The Democratic electorate largely believes this was a major victory. However, the House and Senate votes say otherwise. Democrats honestly have a large uphill battle to pass any meaningful agenda. 

6.) Even if Biden does tap out year #2 and put K. Harris in, she wont have the congressional support to push a far left agenda. 

7.) As a military member though, I am concerned about foreign involvement. Especially since Biden sat deuce for Obama, who was a very hawkish President. 

8.) I'm also worried Biden will play us back into NATO/EUCOM, refocus energy on Russia when it needs to be on China, and remove emphasis from China overall. This would be an enormous failure in Global Security. 

Other than that, I don't think much will change in the next 4 years. I really hope to god though he doesn't get us into a foreign quagmire. That was one thing I was at least very confident in with Trump. It was very clear Trump was keeping us out of overseas debacles. 

 

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Here are my observations on Conservative fears:
1.) A second Trump victory would have indicated a historic rejection of the Social Justice principles that have eroded the unity of our society for the last 20 years. It would have made it clear that those principles were not tolerable to the US electorate. This is probably the largest loss in this election for Conservatives, and will likely keep the country divided for another 2 decades. 
2.) Should the Democrats take the Senate, speculation is high they will remove the filibuster and pass an assault weapons ban. 
3.) Also removing the filibuster would allow stacking the Supreme Court. 
4.) On a whole though, 2 and 3 don't look possible for this term. Its unlikely Democrats will get a strong mid term showing, and first mid terms for new party are usually a correction in the other direction. So I think chances are good they will not have either house in 2 years. 
5.) The Democratic electorate largely believes this was a major victory. However, the House and Senate votes say otherwise. Democrats honestly have a large uphill battle to pass any meaningful agenda. 
6.) Even if Biden does tap out year #2 and put K. Harris in, she wont have the congressional support to push a far left agenda. 
7.) As a military member though, I am concerned about foreign involvement. Especially since Biden sat deuce for Obama, who was a very hawkish President. 
8.) I'm also worried Biden will play us back into NATO/EUCOM, refocus energy on Russia when it needs to be on China, and remove emphasis from China overall. This would be an enormous failure in Global Security. 
Other than that, I don't think much will change in the next 4 years. I really hope to god though he doesn't get us into a foreign quagmire. That was one thing I was at least very confident in with Trump. It was very clear Trump was keeping us out of overseas debacles. 
 

Point 8 is spot on unfortunately...


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[Sim]

Smart cookie. 

 

[FLEA]

39 minutes ago, Sim said:

I expect nothing less from tweeter shit-poster in chief. He's been this way from the start.  

Just today he trolled media and had them go to "four seasons" and then add "landscaping" 30 minutes prior.  

Trumps ploy will be to delegitimize Biden's Presidency the same way Democrats worked to delegitimize Trump's through Russia Gate. This will have an interesting outcome though. With Russia Gate, Trump was put in a peculiar situation where he needed to assert he wasn't in collusion with Russia but be careful to investigate the matter too deeply in order to avoid bringing credence to a claim for delegitimization. The same thing will happen now with polling. The Democrats will continue to deny fraud happened but this is dangerous because if any fraud is found its going to implicate them, even if its minor. It won't change the election outcome but it will continue to keep a base of Republican voters energized for 2024. 

[Homestar]

So what’s the OPLAN for if Trump physically refuses to vacate 1600 Pennsylvania Ave on January 20?

Like, do you call the Marines?

[CharlieHotel47]

How the media is currently celebrating


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[Pooter]

I think trumps tantrums grow more severe and indefensible by the minute. The man has never lost at anything, never been told "no," and as a result he will continue this classless flailing for as long as he can. It will accomplish nothing except turn off more moderate voters from republicans and delay conservatives from being able to take control of their party back. 

[Homestar]

14 minutes ago, Pooter said:

The man has never lost at anything

He’s had multiple business fail. He just denies that he had anything to do with the failure, you know, like the amazing leader he is. The best. Everyone agrees. 

[Guardian]

Don't be a tool. I read it wrong, that's why I asked for a link. He provided it. I was corrected. NBD.

Point still stands, what's wrong with what she's asking? I think k she's way too immature/inexperienced to be good at her job yet, and the GND is a complete non starter, but she's got a point in remembering who the hypocrites are.


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Dude. Chill out. It was you who were calling people out for quoting a tweet you couldn’t find because of your self admitted lack of Twitter knowledge.

[Sim]

4 hours ago, VMFA187 said:

 

Didn’t the Democratic Party fight the 2016 election until now?

What's even better (worse). There is a web-page already https://www.trumpaccountability.net/ 

 

 

[Slick]

1 hour ago, Sim said:

I expect nothing less from tweeter shit-poster in chief. He's been this way from the start.  

Just today he trolled media and had them go to "four seasons" and then add "landscaping" 30 minutes prior.  

The media has been "trolling" him every waking minute for the last 5 years.  

[Sim]

2 minutes ago, Slick said:

The media has been "trolling" him every waking minute for the last 5 years.  

Interesting. Please educate...? 

[Slick]

5 minutes ago, Sim said:

Interesting. Please educate...? 

I can probably count on both hands the number of nice things I've heard the media say about Trump over the last 5 years.  He's viscously attacked no matter what he does.  They don't even try to be objective.  What they've been casting him and his supporters as has been very harmful to the social fabric of the country.

Trump has actually trolled the media with these last minute "mix ups" on several occasions.  I always find it humorous and, in contrast with what the media does to him, it is harmless.  

[Sim]

10 minutes ago, Slick said:

I can probably count on both hands the number of nice things I've heard the media say about Trump over the last 5 years.  He's viscously attacked no matter what he does.  They don't even try to be objective.  What they've been casting him and his supporters as has been very harmful to the social fabric of the country.

OK. I don't think you know what the word "trolling" means. And I agree with your message above. 

[Mark1]

1 hour ago, Homestar said:

So what’s the OPLAN for if Trump physically refuses to vacate 1600 Pennsylvania Ave on January 20?

Like, do you call the Marines?

Shouldn't even have to make the call.  They should already be self-mobilizing.  If doing everything possible to undermine faith in the democratic process (I'm not talking about lawsuits) isn't quite enough to classify you a "domestic enemy" of the Constitution, then refusing to abdicate would remove all doubt.  Not that it would work this way in reality, but there should be 1.5 million members of the military moving on D.C. to honor their oath.  I didn't vote for Biden and I'm no longer beholden to any oath, but I'd make the trip if it became necessary.

The fact that the electorate put a person in power that would make these kinds of questions less than batshit crazy to entertain is an embarassment for the country.  As Robert O'Neill said of Trump's desired military parade in D.C.: that's "3rd world bullshit".  So is having to think about this.

The international community has been watching 3rd world bullshit from the highest level of government in this country for 4 years.  It does no favors to our status as the last standing superpower.  China is surging economically but we have always had uncreachable high-ground over them (and others) from all other angles.  We're a little less untouchable than we used to be and have nobody to blame but ourselves.

[17D_guy]

1 hour ago, Slick said:

I can probably count on both hands the number of nice things I've heard the media say about Trump over the last 5 years.  He's viscously attacked no matter what he does.  They don't even try to be objective.  What they've been casting him and his supporters as has been very harmful to the social fabric of the country.

Trump has actually trolled the media with these last minute "mix ups" on several occasions.  I always find it humorous and, in contrast with what the media does to him, it is harmless.  

Except Fox.