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[17D_guy]

3 hours ago, Kiloalpha said:

That’s assuming we see the Dems acting responsibly with power

What does that mean?

Edited December 8, 2020 by 17D_guy

[dream big]

11 hours ago, Homestar said:

Trump will make more money as a former President than he did as president. Once he realizes this you’ll see him walk away. 

That logic falls flat when you consider that Trump gave up an insane amount of money to be President. The dude loves the fame, no doubt about it, but he didn’t become POTUS to get rich, no one does. 

[Kiloalpha]

3 hours ago, dream big said:

That logic falls flat when you consider that Trump gave up an insane amount of money to be President. The dude loves the fame, no doubt about it, but he didn’t become POTUS to get rich, no one does. 

The Obamas/Clintons would beg to differ.

[Homestar]

6 hours ago, dream big said:

That logic falls flat when you consider that Trump gave up an insane amount of money to be President. The dude loves the fame, no doubt about it, but he didn’t become POTUS to get rich, no one does. 

No, he ran for President for the power (like everyone does) and he’ll use his status as ex-president to get rich (like they all do). Once he realizes how rich he can make himself as ex-President all the 2024 nonsense will stop.  

[drewpey]

6 hours ago, Kiloalpha said:

Never-Trumpers aren't going to just walk over from R to D wholesale if a potentially all Democrat-led government does things like add states, increase SCOTUS justices, Green New Deal, etc. They'll just stay R and try to defeat Trump in a primary. If Democrats govern in a moderate (in my opinion responsible) fashion, then sure, that type of a change could be possible.

I just don't see it happening with the people Biden is picking, and the power struggle going on between the left and Democrats.

What is your vision of moderate democrat positions that would make Republicans happy?  

[Sim]

 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/07/texas-sues-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-and-wisconsin-at-supreme-court-election-rules/

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Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were “voting irregularities” in these states as a result of the above.

Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. 

https://www.scribd.com/document/487348469/TX-v-State-Motion-2020-12-07-FINAL

Link to lawsuit. 

[slackline]

1 hour ago, Sim said:

 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/07/texas-sues-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-and-wisconsin-at-supreme-court-election-rules/

https://www.scribd.com/document/487348469/TX-v-State-Motion-2020-12-07-FINAL

Link to lawsuit. 

This has as much chance as every other "legitimate" lawsuit that's been filed so far, and is about as absurdly obvious as a desperate attempt to stop the inevitable...

 

I'm sure SCOTUS is dying to let Texas stomp all over other state's rights.  It would be a great precedent.  I wonder how Texas would respond if someone tried to force them to do something the Lonestar State didn't want to.

Edited December 8, 2020 by slackline

[Seadogs]

Supreme Court Formally Dockets Texas Election Case Against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania And Wisconsin | Zero Hedge

[17D_guy]

3 hours ago, slackline said:

This has as much chance as every other "legitimate" lawsuit that's been filed so far, and is about as absurdly obvious as a desperate attempt to stop the inevitable...

 

I'm sure SCOTUS is dying to let Texas stomp all over other state's rights.  It would be a great precedent.  I wonder how Texas would respond if someone tried to force them to do something the Lonestar State didn't want to.

Considering Texas modified voting rules and procedures in exactly the same way...it's not surprised indicted felon Ken Paxton is doing this.  Probably to get a pardon from Daddy Trump from the FBI investigating deep into his taking bribes and abusing office.

So was it: unconstitutionality, or hacking, or fraudulent ballots, or flipped votes.  I guess they're hoping something sticks to the wall to disenfranchise millions.

Meanwhile Lying Ted Cruz, with the ugly wife and assassination Dad, is offering to argue it.

Edited December 8, 2020 by 17D_guy

[17D_guy]

Also, this was just updated, emphasis from your site @Seadogs -

"Just hours after the deadline for the petition's deadline, The U.S. Supreme Court has rejected a request by Trump ally Mike Kelly, a Pennsylvania Republican, to nullify Joe Biden’s election victory in Pennsylvania.

Kelly argued that virtually all of the state’s mail-in ballots were unlawful.

The rebuff came without explanation and with no noted dissents."

[Kiloalpha]

6 hours ago, drewpey said:

What is your vision of moderate democrat positions that would make Republicans happy?  

Quit the woke BS, focus on populist positions. Look at infrastructure, building on a return to American-focused labor policy, etc. Raise taxes/eliminate the number of deductions.

There’s a reason why so many blue-collar Democrat union workers voted for Trump. You don’t get those folks back with a shift to the hard left.

[Sim]

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf

"Hunter Biden, Burisma, and Corruption: The Impact on U.S. Government Policy and Related Concerns U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs U.S. Senate Committee on Finance Majority Staff Report"

 

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What the Chairmen discovered during the course of this investigation is that the Obama administration knew that Hunter Biden’s position on Burisma’s board was problematic and did interfere in the efficient execution of policy with respect to Ukraine. Moreover, this investigation has illustrated the extent to which officials within the Obama administration ignored the glaring warning signs when the vice president’s son joined the board of a company owned by a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch. And, as will be discussed in later sections, Hunter Biden was not the only Biden who cashed in on Joe Biden’s vice presidency. This report not only details examples of extensive and complex financial transactions involving the Bidens, it also describes the quandary other U.S. governmental officials faced as they attempted to guide and support Ukraine’s anticorruption efforts. The Committees will continue to evaluate the information and evidence as it becomes available.

 

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The records acquired by the Committees also show that Hunter Biden and his family were involved in a vast financial network that connected them to foreign nationals and foreign governments across the globe. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer, in particular, formed significant and consistent financial relationships with the corrupt oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky during their time working for Burisma, and their firms made millions of dollars from that association while Joe Biden was vice president and the public face of the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy. Rosemont Seneca Thornton, an investment firm co-founded by Hunter Biden, received $3.5 million in a wire transfer from Elena Baturina, who allegedly received illegal construction contracts from her husband, the then-mayor of Moscow. Moreover, Archer’s apparent receipt of money for a car from Kenges Rakishev of Kazakhstan while Vice President Biden was in Kyiv is especially concerning in light of the timing. And finally, Biden and Archer’s work with Chinese nationals connected to the Communist regime illustrate the deep financial connections that accelerated while Joe Biden was vice president and continued after he left office.

 

I'm sure there is nothing to see here for Biden voters. Remember, only CNN can read reports from the Senate Committees. 

[BashiChuni]

i want to meet the people whose job it is to write these reports...talk about dry and exhausting work

[Prozac]

Every time Sim posts here, I think of this:

 

[17D_guy]

56 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Every time Sim posts here, I think of this:

 

Thanks.  I've got folks who've had to unfollow their parents/husbands on social media for stuff like that.  Funny seeing it satirized.

[bfargin]

That's funny, but ole Hunter is a slimy douchebag who even makes Trump look responsible, even tempered, and credible.

Yep, I know he's not the president (and therefore he doesn't have the same standard to uphold as the trumpster) but still his actions are significant in that they apparently pulled creepy Joe into conflict-of-interest situations.

[slackline]

SCOTUS ruled 9-0 against Trump’s PA challenges on the election. Those libtard democrats must have gotten to the conservatives on the court to not have acknowledged all of the fraud that went on...


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[Seadogs]

7 minutes ago, slackline said:

SCOTUS ruled 9-0 against Trump’s PA challenges on the election. Those libtard democrats must have gotten to the conservatives on the court to not have acknowledged all of the fraud that went on...


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Now you're just being disingenuous. They voted that one down cause it is being combined with the TX case. 

 

Take your head out of your ass man.

[slackline]

37 minutes ago, Seadogs said:

Now you're just being disingenuous. They voted that one down cause it is being combined with the TX case. 

 

Take your head out of your ass man.

The guy clinging to desperate lawsuits with dubious, at best, evidence and hearsay/eyewitness testimony from very credible people, posting conspiracy after conspiracy from super credible sites is calling me disingenuous?  6-3 conservative majority on SCOTUS. They recognize the absurdity of these lawsuits.  9-0 against the GOP effort.  Sorry.  What is disingenuous about what I said?  I know you won't answer it, but I thought I'd ask anyway.  Correct me then, if I'm the one being crazy, how many challenges has Trump's camp won so far?  1?

Doesn't the WSJ have a bias to the right? https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-challenges-to-election-face-end-of-the-legal-road-11607518944

[Seadogs]

14 minutes ago, slackline said:

The guy clinging to desperate lawsuits with dubious, at best, evidence and hearsay/eyewitness testimony from very credible people, posting conspiracy after conspiracy from super credible sites is calling me disingenuous?  6-3 conservative majority on SCOTUS. They recognize the absurdity of these lawsuits.  9-0 against the GOP effort.  Sorry.  What is disingenuous about what I said?  I know you won't answer it, but I thought I'd ask anyway.  Correct me then, if I'm the one being crazy, how many challenges has Trump's camp won so far?  1?

Doesn't the WSJ have a bias to the right? https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-challenges-to-election-face-end-of-the-legal-road-11607518944

My guy actually said the WSJ has a right bias.

 

Here, read this. 23639 COVER John Eastman - Trump Motion to Intervene.pdf (supremecourt.gov)

[17D_guy]

2 hours ago, Seadogs said:

Now you're just being disingenuous. They voted that one down cause it is being combined with the TX case.

Again, you get things wrong.  It was denied, and Kelly is not in on the new complaint nor has he filed a brief in support of it.  Check here.

[17D_guy]

So, assuming that the Supreme Court overrides in only those listed states in the argument, and not the other states that Trump won that had the same type of "election changes."

What happens next?  Majority of people did not vote for Trump either in the popular vote, or in the places where they are contesting.  There has still be zero evidence of fraud to claw back a Trump win anywhere.  He's engaged in attempting to get legislatures to go against the will of the people that voted. 

Do you think the run-off in Georgia would go R if that were to happen?  I have extreme doubts.

Are we looking at a general strike and protests?  Are we back at riots?  Would the Congress even convene?  You couldn't ever get me to attend a protest for BLM, Abortion rights, gay rights, whatever.  I could see myself attending one where millions were disenfranchised through no fault of their own.

[Sim]

 

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163215/20201209144840609_2020-12-09 - Texas v. Pennsylvania - Amicus Brief of Missouri et al. - Final with Tables.pdf

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Amici curiae are the States of Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia. 1 Amici have several important interests in this case.

 

17 additional states joined the chat. 

 

 

[Sim]

On 12/8/2020 at 6:24 PM, Kiloalpha said:

Can’t wait to see how the Democrat staff/members characterize what happened in their version.

https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/12/09/944751413/bidens-son-under-federal-investigation-for-tax-matter

 

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In a statement released by the Biden-Harris transition team, Hunter Biden, the president-elect's son, said Wednesday he was recently informed he is under federal investigation over a tax matter.

"I learned yesterday for the first time that the U.S. Attorney's Office in Delaware advised my legal counsel, also yesterday, that they are investigating my tax affairs," the statement from the younger Biden said. "I take this matter very seriously but I am confident that a professional and objective review of these matters will demonstrate that I handled my affairs legally and appropriately, including with the benefit of professional tax advisors."

 

 

Also CNN 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html

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(CNN)After going quiet in the months before the election, federal authorities are now actively investigating the business dealings of Hunter Biden, a person with knowledge of the probe said.

 

Edited December 10, 2020 by Sim

[17D_guy]

2 hours ago, Sim said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/12/09/944751413/bidens-son-under-federal-investigation-for-tax-matter

 

 

 

Also CNN 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html

 

Wait, I thought it was child porn, and Chinese hookers.