The Next President is...

[17D_guy]

20 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

40 and counting...

Not that he hasn't done some of his own, but are you counting un-doing Trumps?  Should those count?

[ClearedHot]

39 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

Not that he hasn't done some of his own, but are you counting un-doing Trumps?  Should those count?

Not sure why everything comes back to Trump?  Trump did four EOs in the same period of time and that included reversing Obama policies.

[Homestar]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

Not sure why everything comes back to Trump?  Trump did four EOs in the same period of time and that included reversing Obama policies.

That’s because he didn’t know what a President was. 

[slackline]

If Republican and Democratic reps didn’t blacklist each other for crossing the aisle and actually legislating we wouldn’t have this problem. They stopped actually doing their jobs a long time ago, so Bush, then Obama, then Trump, and now Biden have way too much authority to act via EO.

Honestly, why not use the tools provided? That’s not a statement of support for Biden, just a simple observation. If one part of the government isn’t going to do anything, why not get as much of it done on your own as you can?

Also, If he maintains the pace, ok, something to be worried about, otherwise, he has a long way to go before it’s problematic.

Back to the legislature not doing its job, I don’t predict much will change...


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[ClearedHot]

Yeah no problem with his mental facilities...not a single coherent sentence in this rambling statement.  Him good at math as well.

 

[FLEA]

25 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Yeah no problem with his mental facilities...not a single coherent sentence in this rambling statement.  He is good at math as well.

 

 

I feel really bad for those 300 Americans. Their arms are going to be really fucking soar after 2 million shots! 

[Negatory]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Yeah no problem with his mental facilities...not a single coherent sentence in this rambling statement.  Him good at math as well.

 

 

That video convinced me you’re not wrong, unfortunately.

I guess we will get to see which evil was worse. Having to choose between Biden and Trump is the closest I’ll ever come to understanding an abusive relationship (hopefully).

[FLEA]

8 minutes ago, Negatory said:

That video convinced me you’re not wrong, unfortunately.

I guess we will get to see which evil was worse. Having to choose between Biden and Trump is the closest I’ll ever come to understanding an abusive relationship (hopefully).

Dude I honestly don't think Kamala is going to let it get that far. I treated that as a conspiracy up until this video. But man.... Just watch his eyes while he is trying to speak. It's honestly heartbreaking. This dude needs to be living out a nice retirement surrounded by his family, he was pressured to serve one last time. Now it may take him to an early breaking point. I suppose this may raise the potential to start discussing an age maximum on presidency though. 

[arg]

[ClearedHot]

3 hours ago, Negatory said:

That video convinced me you’re not wrong, unfortunately.

I guess we will get to see which evil was worse. Having to choose between Biden and Trump is the closest I’ll ever come to understanding an abusive relationship (hopefully).

Wait until Harris gets in the seat.

If I were king for a day we would have a non-narcissist mentally capable president from one party who acts and speaks like a President.

The House would be controlled by one party and we wouldn't have an 80 year lunatic as the speaker.  The Senate would be controlled by the other party and the Majority leader would be of a reasonable mindset.  They would be forced to work TOGETHER and DEBATE issues to work towards COMPROMISE as the framers intended.  Who am I kidding?

[ClearedHot]

1 hour ago, arg said:

No shit!  Watch this answer from Jen Psaki...gotta stick to the playbook!

https://rumble.com/vde5n3-biden-press-sec-has-most-cringe-moment-yet-when-asked-legit-question.html

 

[slackline]

36 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

No shit!  Watch this answer from Jen Psaki...gotta stick to the playbook!

https://rumble.com/vde5n3-biden-press-sec-has-most-cringe-moment-yet-when-asked-legit-question.html

 

Let me be clear, I'm not saying she is great, or even good. My comment goes more to the statement that this is the most cringe moment.  

Would you rather she rip into the press Corp, call them stupid, then lie to them?  What am I missing here?  Someone doesn't know a decent answer, tries to find it in the moment, acknowledges they don't have a good answer, then says they'll get back to them with it.  That's cringe?  

I ask this sarcastically because I think I know the answer to this, but were you one of those WG/CCs that expected answers regardless?  I don't know wasn't acceptable?  Based on the character you've shown here I highly doubt you'd tear into someone over an answer like that. Maybe the timelines, but saying I don't know is acceptable with some exceptions.  

 

But you guys are right, let's get Conway, Spicer, Huckabee, or that last nitwit Trump had back out answering questions with lies...

I'll add this caveat, maybe there's some context I'm missing here, but based on what you've shared, this looks ridiculously petty.

[ClearedHot]

34 minutes ago, slackline said:

Let me be clear, I'm not saying she is great, or even good. My comment goes more to the statement that this is the most cringe moment.  

Would you rather she rip into the press Corp, call them stupid, then lie to them?  What am I missing here?  Someone doesn't know a decent answer, tries to find it in the moment, acknowledges they don't have a good answer, then says they'll get back to them with it.  That's cringe?  

I ask this sarcastically because I think I know the answer to this, but were you one of those WG/CCs that expected answers regardless?  I don't know wasn't acceptable?  Based on the character you've shown here I highly doubt you'd tear into someone over an answer like that. Maybe the timelines, but saying I don't know is acceptable with some exceptions.  

 

But you guys are right, let's get Conway, Spicer, Huckabee, or that last nitwit Trump had back out answering questions with lies...

I'll add this caveat, maybe there's some context I'm missing here, but based on what you've shared, this looks ridiculously petty.

Seriously?  So you are saying Jen Psaki is pure as the driven snow and she doesn't lie.  Come on man!

Psaki outright lied as State Department Spokesperson.

Conway and Spice were horrible, I liked Huckabee, she gave what she got...Post Spicer that press room was radioactive and combative from the first day she walked to the podium.  The point of the post was they are sticking to a script and if it isn't on the script they don't know what to do.  She is the White House Press Secretary, she should do better than fumble through a book for a scripted answer and when she can't find it "circle back."

For the record, during my career "I don't know" was usually an acceptable answer especially during my time at the WIC if it was followed up with, but I know how to find the answer.  It was not an acceptable answer on a checkride if we were talking ops limits, it was not an acceptable answer in a TIC if I asked where the friendlies were, and it was not acceptable the night my wife was driving our family to dinner off base and a young asshat Airman was driving so crazy he ran us off the road and into a field. 

Quick story...For two miles this chump tried to pass us in heavy traffic and nearly clipped the back of our SUV both times.  My wife is not a slow driver and we were doing 60 in a 55, and he was still about a foot off our bumper trying to pass.   He tried twice to pass and almost clipped us each time as he jumped back in line.  When he finally did pass there was oncoming traffic and not enough room.  He was was about dead even with us and my wife had to swerve off the road and into a field to avoid a head on collision, he kept on going.  We got back on the road and wouldn't you know it he got caught at the long traffic light so we caught up to him.  I had consumed a few adult beverages at the club and figured it best not to confront someone offbase so I wrote down his tag and called the Mission Support Group Commander to have the SPs run the tag (dude looked military).  Wouldn't you know it came back to Airman Snuffy from Mx Sq... he was standing in my office at 0700 on Monday with his Sq/CC and Grp/CC.  I asked him what were you thinking..."I don't know?"  Did you think about stopping when you ran my wife, my son and my off the road and into that field...."I don't know..."  That was his answer to everything.  Only time I ever really went off on someone for "I don't know."

 

[BashiChuni]

[slackline]

44 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Seriously?  So you are saying Jen Psaki is pure as the driven snow and she doesn't lie.  Come on man!

Psaki outright lied as State Department Spokesperson.

Conway and Spice were horrible, I liked Huckabee, she gave what she got...Post Spicer that press room was radioactive and combative from the first day she walked to the podium.  The point of the post was they are sticking to a script and if it isn't on the script they don't know what to do.  She is the White House Press Secretary, she should do better than fumble through a book for a scripted answer and when she can't find it "circle back."

For the record, during my career "I don't know" was usually an acceptable answer especially during my time at the WIC if it was followed up with, but I know how to find the answer.  It was not an acceptable answer on a checkride if we were talking ops limits, it was not an acceptable answer in a TIC if I asked where the friendlies were, and it was not acceptable the night my wife was driving our family to dinner off base and a young asshat Airman was driving so crazy he ran us off the road and into a field. 

Quick story...For two miles this chump tried to pass us in heavy traffic and nearly clipped the back of our SUV both times.  My wife is not a slow driver and we were doing 60 in a 55, and he was still about a foot off our bumper trying to pass.   He tried twice to pass and almost clipped us each time as he jumped back in line.  When he finally did pass there was oncoming traffic and not enough room.  He was was about dead even with us and my wife had to swerve off the road and into a field to avoid a head on collision, he kept on going.  We got back on the road and wouldn't you know it he got caught at the long traffic light so we caught up to him.  I had consumed a few adult beverages at the club and figured it best not to confront someone offbase so I wrote down his tag and called the Mission Support Group Commander to have the SPs run the tag (dude looked military).  Wouldn't you know it came back to Airman Snuffy from Mx Sq... he was standing in my office at 0700 on Monday with his Sq/CC and Grp/CC.  I asked him what were you thinking..."I don't know?"  Did you think about stopping when you ran my wife, my son and my off the road and into that field...."I don't know..."  That was his answer to everything.  Only time I ever really went off on someone for "I don't know."

 

Dude, reread my first sentence!  I've made no statement as to her awesomeness or not as press secretary...  My comment was fairly straightforward, I took issue with your posting that specific link as if it were somehow damning evidence of her duplicity.

I also allowed for exceptions with the "I don't know rule"... Same as you, I took issue with "I don't know" when working a SAR or CASEVAC, TIC, etc.  I have faith you were an excellent leader and cared for your people deeply.  It shows through still.

That's what blows me away sometimes when you post that garbage clickbait link.  Second link you posted, valid kill, first one hurts your credibility.  I know you couldn't care less about what I think of you on some internet forum, but that was beneath your typical standard.

That's my saved rounds for the debrief...

[FLEA]

https://www.econlib.org/is-there-politics-after-polarization/

 

Very short read but I think it captures the current predicament well. The quote captured it well. 

Quote

America will not be able to do much healing in the next four years if the 47 percent of America who voted against the president-elect are treated as a subjugated population. Yet knowingly or not, this is how the election’s victors are behaving. A large minority of our nation can scarcely air its opinions in the academy or, increasingly, in the establishment media. Their speech is ever more policed in the workplace and online by rules tantamount to “victor’s justice.

 

[lloyd christmas]

33 minutes ago, FLEA said:

https://www.econlib.org/is-there-politics-after-polarization/

 

Very short read but I think it captures the current predicament well. The quote captured it well. 

 

Good article.  I recently watched this video which hits on some similar points related to unifying the country.  I certainly don’t agree with all of Hedges views, but he has some very interesting observations.  He is critical of the right and the left in this piece as well as the media/big tech.  It’s definitely worth the watch if have an hour or so.  
 

 

Edited January 31, 2021 by lloyd christmas

[ClearedHot]

[nsplayr]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

 

I hate to ask but why do you so specifically hate Jen Psaki? IMHO being a spokesperson is a hard and thankless job and FFS she’s a 100% improvement on the empty podium we’ve been offered for the last ~6 months or so. 🤷‍♂️ I mean most of us here are cranky old men here (myself included) but this seems like a weird thing to piss you off so specifically. 

[ClearedHot]

10 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

I hate to ask but why do you so specifically hate Jen Psaki? IMHO being a spokesperson is a hard and thankless job and FFS she’s a 100% improvement on the empty podium we’ve been offered for the last ~6 months or so. 🤷‍♂️ I mean most of us here are cranky old men here (myself included) but this seems like a weird thing to piss you off so specifically. 

Mainly because of the tripe she used to spew at State.

[FLEA]

https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1604695

Fucking called it. Hope everyone is ready for another round of deployments. It's the gift that keeps giving. 

 

“Conditions have not been met,” he said, on condition of anonymity, because of the sensitivity of the matter. “And with the new US administration, there will be tweaks in the policy, the sense of hasty withdrawal which was prevalent will be addressed and we could see a much more calculated exit strategy.”

Edited January 31, 2021 by FLEA

[Homestar]

Elections have consequences. 

[Swamp Yankee]

On 1/28/2021 at 2:53 PM, Lord Ratner said:

Not sure what you listen to, because Shapiro was all over the riots at the Capitol. I suspect what you're really looking for is someone on the right to criticize the right in the same way that someone on the left would, but that's a silly expectation. Conservatives can only be compared to other conservatives, in this case, and when you compare someone like Shapiro or Weinstein to, say, Fox news, the difference is obvious.

 

It's not like Trump has some sort of endless laundry list of problems. He's immoral in his personal life, uneducated on the issues, bad with his hiring decisions in many cases, and a terrible communicator to most of the electorate. I listen to Shapiro go off on those regularly. 

 

And there's zero comparison between the right and left insofar as defending their extremists. Democratic politicians tied themselves in knots doing everything in their power to minimize criticism of antifa and rioters over the summer. I've seen no such reluctance on the right to criticize white supremacists and rioters on the 6th.

 

But part of this is that if you think government is the solution to many of our problems (leftist), you're going to find fault in any conservative message, and conservatives are going to seem very similar to you. Same goes for the right.

Other than a couple of perfunctory comments, I have not observed Shapiro as ‘all over the riots’. If you have examples, please share. I listen to a wide range of podcasts, primarily because topics are explored in far more depth than current, conventional mass-consumption media.

Can you provide an example of someone on the right who critically examines their own side in the manner of Tulsi?  

[GrndPndr]

Maybe this belongs in the WTF thread, but I found this article interesting:

Pause in Corporate PAC Spending Triggers Political Pushback
Lawmakers say companies’ suspension of campaign donations puts business priorities at risk

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pause-in-corporate-pac-spending-triggers-political-pushback-11612175400?st=sul454ilsy205y1&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Yes, our wonderful congress is actually bitching they aren't getting enough money for their PACs, and they are insinuating that it will hurt legislation beneficial to these businesses.

[Lord Ratner]

On 1/30/2021 at 7:49 AM, ClearedHot said:

Yeah no problem with his mental facilities...not a single coherent sentence in this rambling statement.  Him good at math as well.

 

 

Yikes. There's a whole lot of "I told ya so" that'll come from that clip.