The Next President is...

[Guardian]

In that case, the current economic recovery is due to Trump, right?

What economic recovery?

[DosXX]

9 hours ago, pawnman said:

So...things that Trump did, but Biden gets credit for?  Aside from the Paris Accords, I suppose.

I never said Trump admin doesn't get credit for vaccine rollout, Afghan policy, and stimulus bill. I don't see what's wrong with saying it's a plus the current admin is continuing to accomplish these and also get credit for what they've done so far.

5 hours ago, M2 said:

Hilarious, I truly hope you were kidding!

Why? I wasn't and can elaborate if you want to actually discuss without insulting and going off on a tangent about the media. 

20 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Trump did a lot of things wrong, but the vaccine rollout was not one of them.

Definitely not. When did I say that? Not sure why many of you here are jittery to attack an argument I'm not making because I'm not in your ideological tribe.

2 hours ago, pawnman said:

In that case, the current economic recovery is due to Trump, right?

Probably easier to admit Presidents don't have the power to affect the economy that much (and shouldn't), but sure if you want to make that argument and be consistent. 

[Lord Ratner]

14 hours ago, Majestik Møøse said:

I’m no expert but I’d bet America has surpassed over 300 million shits per day

I dunno man, the prune juice crowd might be holding the total down... 🤣😂

[M2]

On 6/14/2021 at 6:20 PM, DosXX said:

Why? I wasn't and can elaborate if you want to actually discuss without insulting and going off on a tangent about the media.

Please do, as other than reversing every policy from the Trump administration, I have yet to see the Biden group do anything productive...

[lloyd christmas]

On 6/13/2021 at 7:15 PM, DosXX said:

Things seem to be going fine. Hard to be hopeful if you're a conservative but:

Pulling out of Afghanistan 

Rejoined Paris Accords 

Vaccination rollout 

Cabinet appointees

Stimulus Bill 

Infrastructure Plan https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/bidenomics-explained

 

 

 

I appreciate the answer.  Others here have pointed out that Biden is taking credit for things that were in the works before he took office.  

Infrastructure has become the latest example of Dems manipulating language.  They intentionally use the word infrastructure knowing that a majority of people would support fixing bridges, roads and airports.  But, when you get into it, you hear about things like “human infrastructure”, “healthcare is infrastructure” and “child care is infrastructure”.  It’s just another attempt to spend trillions of dollars on social projects paid for by tax increases on the wealthy.  

The goalposts are constantly shifting.  It’s never enough.  And it all starts with language.  

It’s being done with race.  Notice how white males aren’t being called Nazi’s anymore?  It moved on to white supremacists for a while.  Now, just being white is the problem.  It’s absurd.  

It’s been done with drugs.  We are going to legalize marijuana for medicinal purposes.  Now, I can’t walk around downtown without smelling so much weed that I worry I’m going to pop hot on a drug test.  

It’s why I was opposed to the repeal of DOMA.  It’s not because I have a problem with gay people.  It was because I knew what would happen next.  The end game was never about two gay people trying to live out a normal life through marriage.  It was about the sliding scale of gender, trans, pronouns, etc.  Look where we are now.  It never stops and it’s never enough.  

There are plenty of other issues that we can not bend on knowing there is no end game.  The goal posts will never stop shifting.  Gun rights, abortion and climate change are a few that come to mind.  

[ThreeHoler]

You can’t pop for secondhand smoke.


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[brickhistory]

In the last few days under the Biden/Harris Administration and a Democrat-controlled legislative branch:

- a federal judge ruled Biden's cash for only farmers of color is unconstitutional.  Something about any race being singled out for special treatment or something...

- another federal judge struck down the Biden EO stopping the development of already sold gas/oil leases on federal lands.  Something about contracts being honored or something...

- President Biden was corrected, publicly, several times by the Prime Minister of the UK over names of various G7 guests and topics.  Guess the picture of the First Lady "prepping for the G7" should've been taken seriously and had her answer instead of Jello Pudding Pop guy...

- President Biden said "Libya" instead of "Syria" three separate times, despite being, gently corrected after the first gaffe, in discussions about Syria at the G7 summit.

- President Biden nodded directly and affirmatively when asked by a reporter if he trusted Putin prior to the on-going US/Russia meeting.  The White House Press Office issued a correction, "The POTUS wasn't answering that or any other specific question when he nodded."

- Inflation is equaling that of the late 1970s.

 

Good and hard.  I hope those that voted for this current debacle get it thusly.

[Negatory]

13 hours ago, M2 said:

Please do, as other than reversing every policy from the Trump administration, I have yet to see the Biden group do anything productive...

You have to understand that, for many voters, that is productive. You don’t have to like it, but that’s the honest truth.

[FLEA]

4 hours ago, Negatory said:

You have to understand that, for many voters, that is productive. You don’t have to like it, but that’s the honest truth.

I will allow you this. For Trump supporters much of Trump's first year was overturning Obama era policies. It will take about a year for Biden to set the playing field to start building the progress he wants, for better or for worse. 

[bfargin]

11 hours ago, FLEA said:

I will allow you this. For Trump supporters much of Trump's first year was overturning Obama era policies. It will take about a year for Biden to set the playing field to start building the progress he wants, for better or for worse. 

That is of course, after "they" tell him what progress he wants. We're getting a good preview of the idiocy that will be.

[kaputt]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/president-biden-signs-juneteenth-national-independence-day-act/vi-AAL9Wmn
 

“Juneteenth National Independence Day Act”

Uh, we already have an Independence Day. 
 

I don’t have a problem with setting aside the day for a holiday, but the name of it certainly raises an eyebrow. 

[ThreeHoler]

Slaves were told they were independent nationally until 19 Jun 1865.

So, yes, it is an accurate name.


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[kaputt]

42 minutes ago, ThreeHoler said:

Slaves were told they were independent nationally until 19 Jun 1865.

So, yes, it is an accurate name.


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June 19th 1865 only relates to Galveston and Texas specifically. Most slaves were freed as the Union Army advanced at various dates. In fact the last slaves weren't officially free until December of 1865 since the Union states of Kentucky and Delaware did not outlaw it during the war. 
 

I think I agree with Congressman Roy. "Juneteenth should be commemorated as the expression of the realization of the end of slavery in the United States - and I commend those who worked for its passage," Roy said. "I could not vote for this bill, however, because the holiday should not be called 'Juneteenth National Independence Day' but rather, ‘Juneteenth National Emancipation [or Freedom or otherwise] Day.’"

 

 

[GrndPndr]

15 hours ago, kaputt said:

<snip>Roy said. "I could not vote for this bill, however, because the holiday should not be called 'Juneteenth National Independence Day'"

 

 

This just further plays into the "we're different from you," and it's all about the mentality so prevalent today.  No surprise that's the way it has been spun.

[brickhistory]

'Member those times when Trump's son was found to be a crack addict?

Denied fathering a child from a one night stand with a stripper?

Cheated on his wife with his brother's wife?

Popped positive on DAY ONE of his US Navy career?

Sure am glad he didn't use racist language regarding blacks and Asians in leaked e-mails that barely have gotten any coverage.

His multi-millions came from...somewhere.

His ties to the CCP can be discussed later, I guess.

[kaputt]

13 hours ago, GrndPndr said:

This just further plays into the "we're different from you," and it's all about the mentality so prevalent today.  No surprise that's the way it has been spun.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/for-juneteenth-its-time-for-a-new-flag-11623958522
 

“It’s time for a new flag”

That didn’t take long. 

[kaputt]

Quote

Rep. Bob Good, R-Va., on Thursday warned that the U.S. has "no operational control" of the border after a trip to Texas in which he and a number of other Republicans saw migrants streaming into the U.S. and being put on flights to other states.

 

"We have no operational control, no legal control, no law enforcement control of our border," Good said in an interview with Fox News. "We are not enforcing our laws, we are not preventing people. This is willful and intentional on the part of this administration to facilitate the illegal entry into our country of tens of thousands, 180,000 in [the] month of May…some 700,000 this year, of the ones we’ve apprehended."

Pretty unreal what is happening in this country these days. 
 

Also saw on the local news here in SoCal the other day that a boat of people trying enter the country illegally had Chinese nationals on it. Who the hell knows what’s coming through our border now as a consequence of this administration’s sick plan to import demographic change in order to win elections and solidify power. 

Edited July 2, 2021 by kaputt

[Waingro]

7 hours ago, kaputt said:

Pretty unreal what is happening in this country these days. 
 

Also saw on the local news here in SoCal the other day that a boat of people trying enter the country illegally had Chinese nationals on it. Who the hell knows what’s coming through our border now as a consequence of this administration’s sick plan to import demographic change in order to win elections and solidify power. 

I'm genuinely curious, what are the CBP employees doing differently today than they were doing six months ago, that is driving this? I'll have to assume that these accounts are true and correct. So what executive-branch policies are resulting in migrants streaming over the border and then boarding airplanes to other states?

[lloyd christmas]

4 hours ago, Waingro said:

I'm genuinely curious, what are the CBP employees doing differently today than they were doing six months ago, that is driving this? I'll have to assume that these accounts are true and correct. So what executive-branch policies are resulting in migrants streaming over the border and then boarding airplanes to other states?

This article was written in March.  It’s only gotten worse from there.  

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/biden-immigration-policies-cause-predictable-border-crisis-why-didn-t-ncna1260992
 

[kaputt]

10 hours ago, Waingro said:

I'm genuinely curious, what are the CBP employees doing differently today than they were doing six months ago, that is driving this? I'll have to assume that these accounts are true and correct. So what executive-branch policies are resulting in migrants streaming over the border and then boarding airplanes to other states?

In addition to what’s in that article, people waiting asylum/immigration hearings are no longer waiting on the other side of the border, as was the previous admins policy. They are now instead released into the country with a piece of paper for a “notice to appear”, but that piece of paper doesn’t even have a court date on it. 
 

It’s essentially a free ticket into this country now. There are reports from the border of groups willingly turning themselves in to CBP because they know they will just get their paper and be on their way. 
 

We essentially no longer have a southern border. 

[BashiChuni]

It’s fine they promise to show up to their court dates

[FourFans]

Not to worry, when something big blows up in the US during the next administration, it won't be this administration's fault that the instigators came in this year.  That's tomorrow's problem.  

The short-sightedness of the radically liberal agenda as this administration is letting it play out is painful to behold.

Edited July 4, 2021 by FourFans130

[kaputt]

1 minute ago, FourFans130 said:

Not to worry, when something big blows up in the US during the next administration, it won't be this administration's fault that the instigators came in this year.  That's tomorrow's problem.  

The short-sightedness of the radically liberal agenda as this administration is letting it play out is painful to behold.

But at least you saved 16¢ on your 4th of July Cookout!!!!! 🇺🇸 
 

#propaganda 

[FourFans]

In case it hasn't been posted, here are Marx's communist tenets.  Notice how many of them have already begun in our country, with significant roots in our legal systems:

Karl Marx's "10 Planks" to seize power and destroy freedom:

1. Abolition of Property in Land and Application of all Rents of Land to Public Purpose.

2. A Heavy Progressive or Graduated Income Tax.

3. Abolition of All Rights of Inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the Property of All Emigrants and Rebels.

5. Centralization of Credit in the Hands of the State, by Means of a National Bank with State Capital and an Exclusive Monopoly.

6. Centralization of the Means of Communication and Transport in the Hands of the State.

7. Extension of Factories and Instruments of Production Owned by the State, the Bringing Into Cultivation of Waste Lands, and the Improvement of the Soil Generally in Accordance with a Common Plan.

8. Equal Liability of All to Labor. Establishment of Industrial Armies, Especially for Agriculture.

9. Combination of Agriculture with Manufacturing Industries; Gradual Abolition of the Distinction Between Town and Country by a More Equable Distribution of the Population over the Country.

10. Free Education for All Children in Public Schools. Abolition of Children's Factory Labor in it's Present Form. Combination of Education with Industrial Production.

[HU&W]

“We want to give people the sense that they have the freedom to choose. But…”

“We try to give people as much freedom and choice as possible, but…”

Both statements were by our Secretary of HHS.  He claims they are being taken wildly out of context, but they are not ok, even within the context of his complete remarks.

I prefer this perspective on our freedom to choose… “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

 

Source.  https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/08/hhs-chief-federal-government-vaccinations-498789
 

I tried to link a YouTube video to watch his remarks that were made on cnn, but YouTube blocked or deleted all the video uploads that were there a few minutes ago.