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[Guest]

23 minutes ago, Blue said:

Dang man.  The discourse here is good, but if you get all bent out of shape every time you get a lousy downvote, you're gonna have a bad time.

You consider me to be bent out of shape because I call out that other uses are too chicken to engage their arguments, when those same users are pic related over their keyboards anytime I post that their version of diversity does, in fact, not make us stronger. LOL

[HeloDude]

19 minutes ago, RedEye1911 said:

Nothing is more demoralizing than fighting, and killing, in a military in the name of freedom when your freedom at home is being consistently taken away from you by what I believe my oath defines as "domestic enemies."

That’s because our military has nothing to do with protecting freedom, here or elsewhere.  It’s a great bumper sticker when the slogan can be used in parallel with what our overlords are trying to achieve, but that’s an after thought.  Besides, why should it be the responsibility of the taxpayer to spread “freedom” to other parts of the world?  Our military should be used to support the interests of its citizens…and it doesn’t even do that well, if at all.  As for our military being used to defend freedom here/support and defend The Constitution, I give you this…

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/fdr-signs-executive-order-9066

[Guest]

4 hours ago, RedEye1911 said:

Throughout my time in the Air Force I have been surprised how rare the views I hold, the views of freedom, liberty, and operating within the limited confines of the Constitution, are in the officer ranks.

I have argued with multiple other officers, many at the top of their year group, that outright support communism and want maximum government control over everything. They see freedom as a threat.

I'm the guy that responds to "Zulu 99's top priority is to kill these targets! We must do that! Hoorah!!!" with "I don't give a shit what Zulu 99 wants, who is he to say? Why the hell are we still here? What is our goal? How are these people a threat to my family, my homeland, or to me?"

Nothing is more demoralizing than fighting, and killing, in a military in the name of freedom when your freedom at home is being consistently taken away from you by what I believe my oath defines as "domestic enemies."

The Marxist/Communist/Globalist takeover in the U.S. really got moving when they infiltrated the universities, because then they could pump their lemmings out into every institution that required a university degree. Prior to this university takeover, we had patriotic officers in our military, for the most part, at least a 179 degree difference from what we currently have. The problem for the traitors now is that the zeitgeist has moved, and it's out of their control because they rely on lies and deception. The truth will prevail. 2016 woke up a lot of John Q. Public's about the evil of our federal government. We're T+5 almost years from then and it's only grown stronger. People are moving away from big technology and onto independent platforms. The traitors know they've screwed up and are scrambling, but it only makes it worse for them. @RedEye1911 Your experience sounds like mine in the Air Force. You are doing God's work by staying the course and being an actual patriot. Your kind is the posterity our forefathers spoke so much about.

Many of the officer ranks have been brainwashed, just like many federal law enforcement officers, to believe the enemy is the average patriotic White Christian middle-class family who owns firearms. They cover their collective eyeballs when their own government is caught furnishing firearms to the Mexican Cartels which then wind up murdering our own citizens who are local law enforcement officers and ordinary folk (Fast and Furious scandal). Small businesses ordered to be closed, along with churches, while the global corporations make the most money they've ever seen during the "pandemic". At some point you'd think they'd realize maybe the federal government doesn't have our best interests in mind.

To those skeptics reading this, I don't ask you to agree with me. I ask you to seriously read some of the information that is suppressed. The information that doesn't come only from higher up. Talk to people, real people, who aren't in the military. Get their perspectives about the federal government and ask if it serves them. You may be surprised to find what you discover when you have an open mind.

Edited August 21, 2021 by dogfish78

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

It’s a great bumper sticker when the slogan can be used in parallel with what our overlords are trying to achieve, but that’s an after thought.

Exactly how the U.S. Capitol Police (modern Praetorian Guard) has been given medals and awards and worshiped by Congress recently for their prevention of muh "Insurrection"; while tens of thousands of law enforcement officers across the nation dealt with real domestic terrorism all last year over some drugged out loser dying in LEO custody (because he OD'd) and there's not only been crickets chirping from most federal politicians, but calls to defend local LE. They only care when it suits them. Why is the U.S. Capitol Police opening offices in Florida and California with more to come? The Capitol is in the District of Columbia. Why is the Capitol Police NOT subject to FOIA requests? Again, they are being morphed into the Praetorian Guard, the NKVD, the political enforcement of the establishment.

Edited August 21, 2021 by dogfish78

[dream big]

7 minutes ago, dogfish78 said:

The Marxist/Communist/Globalist takeover in the U.S. really got moving when they infiltrated the universities, because then they could pump their lemmings out into every institution that required a university degree. Prior to this university takeover, we had patriotic officers in our military, for the most part, at least a 179 degree difference from what we currently have. The problem for the traitors now is that the zeitgeist has moved, and it's out of their control because they rely on lies and deception. The truth will prevail. 2016 woke up a lot of John Q. Public's about the evil of our federal government. We're T+5 almost years from then and it's only grown stronger. People are moving away from big technology and onto independent platforms. The traitors know they've screwed up and are scrambling, but it only makes it worse for them. @RedEye1911 Your experience sounds like mine in the Air Force. You are doing God's work by staying the course and being an actual patriot. Your kind is the posterity our forefathers spoke so much about.

Many of the officer ranks have been brainwashed, just like many federal law enforcement officers, to believe the enemy is the average patriotic White Christian middle-class family who owns firearms. They cover their collective eyeballs when their own government is caught furnishing firearms to the Mexican Cartels which then wind up murdering our own citizens who are local law enforcement officers and ordinary folk (Fast and Furious scandal). Small businesses ordered to be closed, along with churches, while the global corporations make the most money they've ever seen during the "pandemic". At some point you'd think they'd realize maybe the federal government doesn't have our best interests in mind.

To those skeptics reading this, I don't ask you to agree with me. I ask you to seriously read some of the information that is suppressed. The information that doesn't come only from higher up. Talk to people, real people, who aren't in the military. Get their perspectives about the federal government and ask if it serves them. You may surprised to find what when you have an open mind.

I too am flabbergasted by the amount of military officers and peers that openly support Marxism.  Maybe this is why we haven’t won a war since 1991? 

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, dream big said:

I too am flabbergasted by the amount of military officers and peers that openly support Marxism.  Maybe this is why we haven’t won a war since 1991? 

Off the wall hypothesis about why "the amount of military officers and peers that openly support Marxism" aside from the university brainwashing prior to entering the military: They've never had to work a real job, or fend for themselves. They've been coddled by a guaranteed paycheck, guaranteed healthcare, guaranteed gear, guaranteed benefits, and so on for their entire careers out of university (considering they didn't go to an Academy). They've been elevated to the status of hero by the media just for wearing the uniform. I remember being a bright eyed "progressive" during my university, but then I got a physically exertiing summer job in the humid heat. I had never worked my body harder than I had before that job. When I saw how much of my money I earned was going to federal taxes/social security/medicare/medicaid and so on meanwhile deadbeats, illegal aliens, and loser single-mothers were pampered, it awoke something with me.

[ClearedHot]

Anyone else see the irony of Kamala leaving for Vietnam today?  Is she going to Saigon to bring back some DLOs on that evac so we can do better in Afghanistan?  The optics are simply surreal.

[GrndPndr]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

Anyone else see the irony of Kamala leaving for Vietnam today?  Is she going to Saigon to bring back some DLOs on that evac so we can do better in Afghanistan?  The optics are simply surreal.

Kamala has almost landed over there...on a Saturday (Sunday there) evening.  Lot's of people tuning in = doubtful.  But it will be interesting to see what kind of drama (uh... spin) gets put on her visit).

[arg]

I guess we're changing the definition of stranded.  I wish that reporter would have asked something along the lines of "so Americans can get to the airport without restriction?

 

 

[lloyd christmas]

This administration is in real trouble.  Rightly so and very predictable.  Biden was a terrible politician, known for dishonesty and unpopular prior to the election.  But, he wasn’t Trump.  That’s why he won.  Harris is absolutely awful on every level.  

My question is, how does this play out if Biden doesn’t survive this Afghanistan debacle?   I would argue that this is one of the worst, self inflicted, embarrassing and unforgivable situations that our country has ever been through.  It’s been handled with complete dishonesty and lies.  There has been zero empathy and ownership.  And it’s going to get worse.  Much much worse.  

I’ve never seen anything like this.  My community has been heavily involved in Afghanistan.  We’ve got multiple guys in the squadron who have done the air advisor thing.  They were embedded with the Afghans for 6 months at a time.   I’ve never received as many late night calls from guys in my squadron as I have over this.  We’ve had emails from the VA, counselors in the squadron, talks with commanders etc.  And today, for the first time, I legitimately asked a buddy if he thought he was going to hurt himself.  This stress is cumulative and we all have unique stories.  It started in February 2020 with COVID and it’s culminated in this Afghanistan disaster.  

So, again, how does this play out?  Do we see a resignation like Nixon?  Do we watch this come and eventually go with Americans and their short memories?  What are your thoughts and how do we handle it?  

Edited August 25, 2021 by lloyd christmas

[dream big]

This administration is in real trouble.  Rightly so and very predictable.  Biden was a terrible politician, known for dishonesty and unpopular prior to the election.  But, he wasn’t Trump.  That’s why he won.  Harris is absolutely awful on every level.  
My question is, how does this play out if Biden doesn’t survive this Afghanistan debacle?   I would argue that this is one of the worst, self inflicted, embarrassing and unforgivable situations that our country has ever been through.  It’s been handled with complete dishonesty and lies.  There has been zero empathy and ownership.  And it’s going to get worse.  Much much worse.  
I’ve never seen anything like this.  My community has been heavily involved in Afghanistan.  We’ve got multiple guys in the squadron who have done the air advisor thing.  They were embedded with the Afghans for 6 months at a time.   I’ve never received as many late night calls from guys in my squadron as I have over this.  We’ve had emails from the VA, counselors in the squadron, talks with commanders etc.  And today, for the first time, I legitimately asked a buddy if he thought he was going to hurt himself.  This stress is cumulative and we all have unique stories.  It started in February 2020 with COVID and it’s culminated in this Afghanistan disaster.  
So, again, how does this play out?  Do we see a resignation like Nixon?  Do we watch this come and eventually go with Americans and their short memories?  What are your thoughts and how do we handle it?  

Valid questions. He will step aside “for health reasons” at a time and place chosen by his handlers and puppet masters. The problem for them is they are realizing how unpopular Kamala is…my sister is a hardcore leftist that lives in Berkeley and even her and all her friends hate her (Bernie is more popular in that sect). I think Dems played the short game in just focusing on ousting Trump with no viable strategy beyond 2022-2024.


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[Lord Ratner]

Watch how Biden is responding. He's gone full angry-old-man. I don't think there's any chance he resigns, which means the 25th amendment, which will be a nightmare for the Dems. He sticks around longer as the inevitable catastrophe on AFG unfolds, then we get President Harris from a contentious legal procedure. Not good.

 

Trump was a clown, and he was just as anxious to pull out of AFG. No one can say if he would have like this, but he certainly was pushing for an even hastier timeline. 

 

That said, the *entire* pitch from Biden/Democrats was bringing the adults back in power to save us from the endless Trumpian catastrophes (that were regularly promised but never materialized). Biden is in for less than a year and we get a literal repeat of Saigon. So I'm not sure how the democrats will talk their way out of this one. I suspect the midterms will be a bloodbath.

 

I don't know a single person who had *any* experience with the ANA who thought they would maintain control of the country. There's zero chance this wasn't briefed over and over and over. And if Adam Schiff is already selling out Biden by defending the Intel community, then the party royalty has already decided to sacrifice him. 

[arg]

The airlift is a success 

httpd://rumble.com/vlmtso-psaki-i-would-not-say-the-withdrawal-is-anything-but-a-success.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab&fbclid=IwAR0P8fCe5mgv1zHv2NvSzNbjo9s5R3UHBlVR_GqLs_9HTNWTZATTksIDUE4

[NKAWTG]

8 hours ago, dream big said:

Valid questions. He will step aside “for health reasons” at a time and place chosen by his handlers and puppet masters. The problem for them is they are realizing how unpopular Kamala is…my sister is a hardcore leftist that lives in Berkeley and even her and all her friends hate her (Bernie is more popular in that sect). I think Dems played the short game in just focusing on ousting Trump with no viable strategy beyond 2022-2024.


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We've always joked about Biden and his handlers.  What if it's just a dementia riddled old man who has been in government and out of touch for over 40 years?  What if there are no handlers, and the simple answer is what we see, a president who has locked in his world view and won't let silly things like reality intrude in.  I wouldn't attribute this to a conspiracy theory when plain old incompetence can explain it all. 

[brabus]

10 minutes ago, NKAWTG said:

We've always joked about Biden and his handlers.  What if it's just a dementia riddled old man who has been in government and out of touch for over 40 years?  What if there are no handlers, and the simple answer is what we see, a president who has locked in his world view and won't let silly things like reality intrude in.  I wouldn't attribute this to a conspiracy theory when plain old incompetence can explain it all. 

I think it’s a mix of both, but yeah, his feeble mental state is likely the majority root cause, with handlers being a secondary root cause. I hope the midterms absolutely crush the Dems, they’ve earned it. 

[skybert]

10 hours ago, lloyd christmas said:

This administration is in real trouble.  Rightly so and very predictable.  Biden was a terrible politician, known for dishonesty and unpopular prior to the election.  But, he wasn’t Trump.  That’s why he won.  Harris is absolutely awful on every level.  

My question is, how does this play out if Biden doesn’t survive this Afghanistan debacle?   I would argue that this is one of the worst, self inflicted, embarrassing and unforgivable situations that our country has ever been through.  It’s been handled with complete dishonesty and lies.  There has been zero empathy and ownership.  And it’s going to get worse.  Much much worse.  

I’ve never seen anything like this.  My community has been heavily involved in Afghanistan.  We’ve got multiple guys in the squadron who have done the air advisor thing.  They were embedded with the Afghans for 6 months at a time.   I’ve never received as many late night calls from guys in my squadron as I have over this.  We’ve had emails from the VA, counselors in the squadron, talks with commanders etc.  And today, for the first time, I legitimately asked a buddy if he thought he was going to hurt himself.  This stress is cumulative and we all have unique stories.  It started in February 2020 with COVID and it’s culminated in this Afghanistan disaster.  

So, again, how does this play out?  Do we see a resignation like Nixon?  Do we watch this come and eventually go with Americans and their short memories?  What are your thoughts and how do we handle it?  

The American voter:

 

“ just got my welfare increased, and the government says I don’t have to pay my rent” . In my state (MIchigan) the governor says if you get a DUI, don’t worry about it, we’ll make it go away.

buying those votes over giving a shit about anyone who gets off their ass and contributes anything.

 The ones who voted these people into office could care less about the sacrifices the military has made.

[ClearedHot]

Let me see if I can get another down vote from Nuke.

I truly don't understand how anyone can be happy with the way Biden is handling this debacle.  It is now being reported he has been spending a LARGE amount of his time calling other Democrats trying to get support for his $5T spending plan.  In what universe do you put a priority on a non-emergency spending plan instead of giving 100% of your time as the Commander in Chief focused on bringing Americans home?  Not just SIV afghans but AMERICANS.  Complete fail.

[Lord Ratner]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

Let me see if I can get another down vote from Nuke.

I truly don't understand how anyone can be happy with the way Biden is handling this debacle.  It is now being reported he has been spending a LARGE amount of his time calling other Democrats trying to get support for his $5T spending plan.  In what universe do you put a priority on a non-emergency spending plan instead of giving 100% of your time as the Commander in Chief focused on bringing Americans home?  Not just SIV afghans but AMERICANS.  Complete fail.

Well, let's ignore for a moment that Biden has a 40-year track record of being an idiot.

 

The situation in AFG is no longer fixable, so why not shift to the "distract" phase? 

[ClearedHot]

Feb 4, 2021 - President Joe Biden Speech:

"And so — so is the message I want the world to hear today: America is back.  America is back."

"As I said in my inaugural address, we will repair our alliances and engage with the world once again, not to meet yesterday’s challenges, but today’s and tomorrow’s.  American leadership must meet this new moment of advancing authoritarianism"

 

[HeloDude]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

Feb 4, 2021 - President Joe Biden Speech:

"And so — so is the message I want the world to hear today: America is back.  America is back."

"As I said in my inaugural address, we will repair our alliances and engage with the world once again, not to meet yesterday’s challenges, but today’s and tomorrow’s.  American leadership must meet this new moment of advancing authoritarianism"

 

But Trump was responsible for the 6 Jan Capital riots…oh wait…

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fbi-finds-no-evidence-trump-153636457.html

But, but…those mean tweets.

Trump was a jerk and he definitely told political lies like the rest of them…but one thing he wasn’t:  Weak

[Blue]

This is likely inappropriate given the gravity of current events at Kabul today.

However, when I sit back here in my comfy office chair and daydream, I think about what could have happened over the past couple of weeks.

There was that brief several days (week?) after Kabul began to crumble, but before they closed the airport to commercial flights.  Folks were getting on whatever they could.  Watching FlightRadar24, a Turkish Airlines 777-300 seemed to be one of the last civi aircraft to get out (16 Aug).

Would have loved to see Trump have his 757 fly to Kabul to pick up a load of evacuees.  The pics and video footage and accompanying chaos in the media would have been entertaining if nothing else.

I'm not an expert in 757-200 ops, but bet it could have done it in two legs from NYC.

[ClearedHot]

Peter Doocy asked a real question today and Biden nearly fell asleep trying to formulate an answer. 

[lloyd christmas]

12 minutes ago, Blue said:

However, when I sit back here in my comfy office chair and daydream, I think about what could have happened over the past couple of weeks.

I disagree with your thoughts about the Trump 757.  I think I understand your overall point though.  There are a lot of comments, opinions and lots of blame being laid on Trump.  Folks are talking about what Trump would have done in the last few weeks.  I think it’s bigger than that.  Literally everything leading up to these last few weeks would have been different.  Planning and decisions would have been different, generals and senior staff would have been different, there wouldn’t be a huge focus on woke shit and Trump wouldn’t read from a teleprompter and walk off without answering questions.  The enemy recognizes weakness.  And right now we are projecting weakness.  

[ClearedHot]

First and foremost Trump would not have withheld airpower from the Afghan Army.

[kaputt]

11 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Peter Doocy asked a real question today and Biden nearly fell asleep trying to formulate an answer. 

A defining photo of this administration. And they haven’t even been in power a year.