The Next President is...

[busdriver]

Some of you guys are just looking for shit to be mad about.

I flew one flight in a Japanese UH-60J, I made sure that ARMS folks put that thing in my flight records cause I thought it was cool.  Should I feel terrible about it?  Give me a break.

[Guardian]

Who said anything about ARMS records? That’s not what we are talking about….

We are talking about if riding in an F15 or F16 should give a person the idea that they flew those airframes enough to put them on their bio.

Your argument isn’t the same.

[jazzdude]

Who said anything about ARMS records? That’s not what we are talking about….

We are talking about if riding in an F15 or F16 should give a person the idea that they flew those airframes enough to put them on their bio.

Your argument isn’t the same.

You realize test pilots do more than just ride along, right? Even for TPS syllabus flights.

You've got a valid case for GOs that list jets they've just ridden on, that's dumb. Not the case here though

[fire4effect]

1 hour ago, busdriver said:

Some of you guys are just looking for shit to be mad about.

I flew one flight in a Japanese UH-60J, I made sure that ARMS folks put that thing in my flight records cause I thought it was cool.  Should I feel terrible about it?  Give me a break.

I have to agree. The irony is this kind of nitpicking is exactly why the really smart people want nothing to do with politics. 

[lloyd christmas]

There should only be one big ass thread on BO.net   Just one.  The topic of this thread is “The Next President is….”  and you guys are talking about Test Pilot School and ARMS products.  This place is just one big argument.  

[Guardian]

Guessing you don’t like patches either if you don’t like nitpicking

[busdriver]

6 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Guessing you don’t like patches either if you don’t like nitpicking

The irony...

Quibbling when a test pilot and 11F tells you it's legit, then you start slinging WO around.  With no idea who else is talking to you.

Take a breath, maybe if everyone is telling you you're wrapped around the axle about nothing, just maybe it's you.  And yes, I put the UH-60J in my bio.

[fire4effect]

9 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Guessing you don’t like patches either if you don’t like nitpicking

Hey I admit I've been guilty of it too. Especially when I drink and post. 😁 It's frustrating when we allow ourselves get derailed by arguably minor things with the sh!tstorm the world is going through at the moment. 

[Lord Ratner]

Nikki Haley with Dan Crenshaw as VP. I think that'll get you 16 years of Republican rule pretty easily. The debates would be a blood bath.

 

I'm not sure even the most ardent democrats can defend Biden through this either tactically, strategically, or politically. The guy is just losing it. I'm amazed at how many "press conferences" he openly starts with "they gave me a list of people to call here."

 

Watching Stephanopoulos literally coach Biden into saying we wouldn't leave Americans behind was another low point.

 

Imagine the irony of the American people choosing the most boring democrat candidate (against the will of the party machinery) to escape the insanity of Donald Trump only to get a whole new type of insanity. 

Edited August 30, 2021 by Lord Ratner

[gearhog]

Who is the guy between the two Presidents?

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210825-harris-in-hanoi-as-afghan-debacle-rumbles

Edited August 30, 2021 by torqued

[ecugringo]

4 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Nikki Haley with Dan Crenshaw as VP. I think that'll get you 16 years of Republican rule pretty easily. The debates would be a blood bath.

 

I'm not sure even the most ardent democrats can defend Biden through this either tactically, strategically, or politically. The guy is just losing it. I'm amazed at how many "press conferences" he openly starts with "they gave me a list of people to call here."

 

Watching Stephanopoulos literally coach Biden into saying we wouldn't leave Americans behind was another low point.

 

Imagine the irony of the American people choosing the most boring democrat candidate (against the will of the party machinery) to escape the insanity of Donald Trump only to get a whole new type of insanity. 

If I had to guess it'll be Desantis/Haley.  However, the Covid situation in FL may wreck Desantis at least the media is trying to paint that picture.

[disgruntledemployee]

Desantis is a bully (my opinion) and I despise bullies.  And the next President should be under 60yo. 

Biden is done.

1. He is incompetent and I'm being kind with my words right now; probably well into dementia.  He will get heavier and heavier to prop up.  Any decision he makes is dangerous because he lacks the mental ability to make them. 

2. The fucked up AFG exit will stick to him and his administration forever.  There isn't a story or image available to paint a better picture.  From people falling off the C-17 on takeoff, to the picture of the Marine holding a baby that was then killed in the Kabul attack, to the story of former operators going in on their own to rescue people they worked with and promised a better life, this complete and utterly inept group must go.  Every time I see Bidens picture ......  When he said he will make them pay in regards to the Kabul attacks, he should include himself.

3.  No leader of any country, organization, company, or political entity will, nor should they, ever trust Biden and his inept administration ever again.  He is completely ineffective.  Zero influence, or more accurately, zero positive and most likely just negative influence. 

Out

[M2]

2 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

Desantis is a bully (my opinion) and I despise bullies.  And the next President should be under 60yo. 

So standing your ground makes a person a "bully?!?"

If so, we need more bullies!

2 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

Biden is done.

You are suggesting he ever started in the first place?!?

[Negatory]

23 hours ago, Guardian said:

I’m going to start claiming that I flew all the airliner models I ride in.

Hard time believing that a traditionally AMC pilot going to TPS has an IP along in a fighter just in case. So if something is done that is Q3’able then the IP doesn’t get in trouble?

That logic doesn’t make any sense.

So you just cut someone loose with an afterburner which isn’t experienced in it?

Are they allowed to log primary because there is an IP on board providing instruction?

One data point: heavy pilots including KC-135 and C-17 drivers regularly fly the F-16, T-38, and even the A-10 without any instructors during TPS.

To answer your question, yes, they do. Turns out having an afterburner or flying fighters from a pure “flight” perspective isn’t that hard. In fact, most modern fighters are arguably easier to fly than many heavy airplanes. Employing tactically, now that’s a whole other story…

[disgruntledemployee]

6 hours ago, M2 said:

So standing your ground makes a person a "bully?!?"

As I preambled, my opinion.  But I don't live there, just land and takeoff from time to time.

6 hours ago, M2 said:

You are suggesting he ever started in the first place?!?

Negatory.  But those propping the dude up must be feeling the extra weight and getting tired.  They shined a turd to the people but more are seeing that he smells like shit.

[Lord Ratner]

11 hours ago, ecugringo said:

If I had to guess it'll be Desantis/Haley.  However, the Covid situation in FL may wreck Desantis at least the media is trying to paint that picture.

I like the Desantis a lot. But at the end of the day he's just a white guy. He has no hook. Nikki Haley is a minority woman, and Dan Crenshaw may be a white guy, but he's a white guy with an eye patch. And a Navy Seal war hero. He has been very clever in wearing that when he has perfectly serviceable fake eyes that he could be using instead. But a boring white guy needs a hook, and an eye patch certainly draws attention.

 

No one gives two shits about the vice president, so I don't think Nikki Haley as the running mate will make a difference. Besides she's got the experience at this point, she should run for the big seat.

 

All the have learned the real lesson of Donald Trump, which is never to apologize or be weak with the media. They are able to do that without the ridiculous clownishnes of DJT, and they have an intellectual argument for their positions.

Edited August 31, 2021 by Lord Ratner

[Lord Ratner]

6 hours ago, Negatory said:

One data point: heavy pilots including KC-135 and C-17 drivers regularly fly the F-16, T-38, and even the A-10 without any instructors during TPS.

To answer your question, yes, they do. Turns out having an afterburner or flying fighters from a pure “flight” perspective isn’t that hard. In fact, most modern fighters are arguably easier to fly than many heavy airplanes. Employing tactically, now that’s a whole other story…

Exactly. You'd have to be retarded to think an F-16 is harder to fly than a KC-135. One was designed to let the single pilot execute multiple mission types simultaneously while communicating with air and ground units, the other was repurposed 1950's airline technology with steel cables moving the controls. 

 

Now, harder mission? Ten times out of ten the fighter mission is orders of magnitude harder than the tanker mission. It's not even close.

[ecugringo]

11 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

I like the Desantis a lot. But at the end of the day he's just a white guy. He has no hook. Nikki Haley is a minority woman, and Dan Crenshaw may be a white guy, but he's a white guy with an eye patch. And a Navy Seal war hero. He has been very clever in wearing that when he has perfectly serviceable fake eyes that he could be using instead. But a boring white guy needs a hook, and an eye patch certainly draws attention.

 

No one gives two shits about the vice president, so I don't think Nikki Haley as the running mate will make a difference. Besides she's got the experience at this point, she should run for the big seat.

 

All the have learned the real lesson of Donald Trump, which is never to apologize or be weak with the media. They are able to do that without the ridiculous clownishnes of DJT, and they have an intellectual argument for their positions.

IDK....the Dems picked Harris solely because she was a woman and minority.  She was a terrible candidate in the primaries but they wanted to push that agenda.  Biden was picked because he was the only moderate they could pull votes away from Trump.

 

I think Haley needs to be part of hte GOP future.  They need to figure out how to appeal to younger voters. 

I honestly dont know much on Desantis but I can't think of many other figures at the moment that could win at the moment.  Crenshaw eventually but I dont think he's there yet.

[Lord Ratner]

42 minutes ago, ecugringo said:

IDK....the Dems picked Harris solely because she was a woman and minority.  She was a terrible candidate in the primaries but they wanted to push that agenda.  Biden was picked because he was the only moderate they could pull votes away from Trump.

 

I think Haley needs to be part of hte GOP future.  They need to figure out how to appeal to younger voters. 

I honestly dont know much on Desantis but I can't think of many other figures at the moment that could win at the moment.  Crenshaw eventually but I dont think he's there yet.

That's kind of my point. Harris was picked because they recognize that presidential candidates need something that catches attention. In their opinion, her being a woman and black was the hook. I don't think Biden won so much as Trump lost, because Biden doesn't have any hook at all. Trump was his own worst enemy and he paid the price.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like DeSantis a lot. He's been a good leader, he's able to coherently explain his position, and he's not afraid to call out media bias. But those are red meat for the base. If you want to pull Independence and Democrats, you need something the differentiates. DeSantis is just another white guy with ideas on how to run the country. He has nothing visual to distinguish him from the competition and attract the shallow voters.

 

I also agree that Dan Crenshaw is not ready to run for president, which is why I'd love to see him as Haley's running mate. 8 years in Washington will make him a national figure, give him all of the experience he needs, and we would actually have a relevant and intelligent vice president. I really liked Mike pence, but he's just another boring white guy. For better or worse, we need to push back on the leftist narrative that conservatism is a white only event. It's difficult to do that without interesting figures.

[Guest]

@Lord RatnerTrump got his support because he was not boring. Sure he said some things that people didn't like, but who doesn't? He was hilarious in 2015/2016. I was crying laughing at actually seeing it happen, but his message was true despite the presentation. It was how an average dude talks in real life. Not focus group studied, approved speech by the ADL or SPLC. He was an actual human in federal politics. Something no one has seen in a long time. People want that. Look at the non-White support Trump got. Lot bigger numbers than the media would want you to know about. Despite what the neo-conservatives and similar claim about him being "unprofessional" or a "rude" or whatever. I didn't care and neither did millions of people of all colors; because for the most part he said what needed said. I think those calling him "unprofessional/rude" is a covert way of signaling he was against the establishment without outright saying it. Since the GOP/neo-conservatives play for the same team as the DNC.

I hope DeSantis evolves over the next couple years into something more energetic. No he doesn't need to be a Trump clone, but he has got to get tougher and say it like it is and be unique. People want that !

Edited September 1, 2021 by dogfish78

[HeloDude]

12 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

DeSantis is just another white guy with ideas on how to run the country.

I really liked Mike pence, but he's just another boring white guy.

While I don’t disagree with you that a lot of people unfortunately vote/don’t for people based on things that shouldn’t matter…ie someone’s race or gender, let’s not pretend that the left won’t go after the right even if the person running is the skin color the left says they care about/want to see in office..

“Column: Larry Elder is the Black face of white supremacy. You’ve been warned”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-20/recall-candidate-larry-elder-is-a-threat-to-black-californians

[Lord Ratner]

7 hours ago, HeloDude said:

While I don’t disagree with you that a lot of people unfortunately vote/don’t for people based on things that shouldn’t matter…ie someone’s race or gender, let’s not pretend that the left won’t go after the right even if the person running is the skin color the left says they care about/want to see in office..

“Column: Larry Elder is the Black face of white supremacy. You’ve been warned”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-20/recall-candidate-larry-elder-is-a-threat-to-black-californians

For sure. It's not about what the left (institution, not voters) will go after as racist (literally anything), it's about what will capture the attention of the moderate voters.

[ClearedHot]

[Guardian]

A little levity on the subject.

[gearhog]

Anyone placing bets on the results of the CA governor recall election?

"You've already voted"

Multiple mail-in ballots received at a single address:

https://air.tv/?v=Zrkh2VA_T6WKaCdrne04iQ

Edited September 13, 2021 by torqued