The Next President is...

[FourFans]

9 minutes ago, Prozac said:

I have faith that the system is working as designed. 

You and me both.  I actually no longer associate Biden with the current administration as he's pretty much just a talking head as best I can tell.  The rest of the administration, and the complete lack of media oversight and questioning is what bothers me.  Previously, the president and everyone around him couldn't sneeze without media questioning, casting shade and doubts about what they're doing.  Now?  Not so much.  Knowing the sheer number of nameless and faceless individuals setting agendas and policy in closed briefing rooms with absolutely no oversight should be concerning.  I don't believe those individuals are nefarious...but without oversight and public awareness...who's in charge?

Edited January 13, 2022 by FourFans130

[Prozac]

6 minutes ago, FourFans130 said:

You and me both.  I actually no longer associate Biden with the current administration as he's pretty much just a talking head as best I can tell.  The rest of the administration, and the complete lack of media oversight and questioning is what bothers me.  Previously, the president and everyone around him couldn't sneeze without media questioning, casting shade and doubts about what they're doing.  Now?  Not so much.  Knowing the sheer number of nameless and faceless individuals setting agendas and policy in closed briefing rooms with absolutely no oversight should be concerning.  I don't believe those individuals are nefarious...but without oversight and public awareness...who's in charge?

I hear you man. The only caveat I’d add is that I don’t buy that “the media” is a monolithic liberal machine. It is highly partisan though. But the problem you identified is real. Any “oversight” is strictly upon party lines and it’s become difficult to know what’s a real issue and what’s being trumped up to affect the next election cycle. 

[ClearedHot]

19 hours ago, Prozac said:

Uggghh. Are we really suggesting that the Jan 6 violence was a result of FBI "encouragement"?  A few years ago, that narrative would be laughable to anyone with a brain.  Still is.  Total joke and a pathetic attempt to deflect blame from Trump, his sons, Rudy Giuliani, and all the Alex Jones type "media" figures who were more than enough to convince a bunch of ignorant dipshits to storm the Capitol.  For those who want to believe this nonsense, ask yourselves: What would be the benefit to the FBI of leading an angry mob to Nancy Pelosi's office?

I don't know what to believe, but when she replied to the question "Sir, I can’t answer that" it sure didn't help.  A very simple "Absolutely not" would have ended the discussion and controversy, but she couldn't do that.

I know and have worked with a lot of FBI agents, one was my closest friends until he passed away last year, great Americans and extreme professionals.  That being said, every group of all-stars has one or two bad apples, including our community.  While I certainly don't think it was an institutional effort to encourage people to enter the capitol, sometimes bad apples do things they shouldn't to make their case stronger, it happens far too often with LEOs.  There are some questions that people want answered and she the fact that she would not simply answer does not help settle the matter.

[Sim]

3 hours ago, Prozac said:

Except that all of the people I mentioned were literally encouraging their followers to riot

Zero evidence of such. But BlueAnons still belive it. 

Edited January 13, 2022 by Sim

[Negatory]

You say zero evidence? Like when Rudy called for “trial by combat?”

I know how this conversation will go, but your attempt to feign ignorance by taking things literally when it suits you and saying it’s a metaphor when it works in your favor is par for the course.

News flash: You don’t have to support an insurrection just because the last one was instigated by conservatives. Just like how those conservatives don’t have to define conservatives as a whole.

[brickhistory]

9 hours ago, Prozac said:

 For those who want to believe this nonsense, ask yourselves: What would be the benefit to the FBI of leading an angry mob to Nancy Pelosi's office?

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/11/1072123333/justice-department-domestic-terrorism-unit

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The Justice Department says it is setting up a new domestic terrorism unit to help tackle what officials say is an escalating threat posed by violent extremists.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/justice-department-s-domestic-terrorism-unit-should-come-new-terrorism-n1287388

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Third, will the new unit be engaged with implementing the White House national domestic terrorism strategy? Released in June 2021, with great fanfare, the strategy to combat the domestic threat was a mile wide but an inch deep. It spoke of enhanced government and law enforcement partnerships with social media platforms, battling disinformation by teaching Americans to be more savvy consumers of information, and it promised to at least look at the need for a domestic terrorism law.

 

[Prozac]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

but when she replied to the question "Sir, I can’t answer that" it sure didn't help.  A very simple "Absolutely not" would have ended the discussion and controversy, but she couldn't do that.

Agreed. Thanks for clarifying your position. 

[arg]

Some humor

 

[HeloDude]

So this “voting rights” bill…who exactly (that is legally able to do so) can’t vote in elections?  And what is keeping them from being able to vote?

[lloyd christmas]

37 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

So this “voting rights” bill…who exactly (that is legally able to do so) can’t vote in elections?  And what is keeping them from being able to vote?

The answer will be filled with “the soft bigotry of low expectations”.  

[arg]

14 hours ago, lloyd christmas said:

The answer will be filled with “the soft bigotry of low expectations”.  

That's what happened the last time this subject came up.

[brickhistory]

In a speech last week that almost literally no one watched and certainly very few reported on the speech that Biden gave on this topic.  To wit, anyone who opposes this bill is a racist, George Wallace loving, wrong side of history kind of person who should be shunned.

It wasn't covered because A) it's Biden and no one cares and B) it wasn't in a mean tweet, so life is good...

[SurelySerious]

In a speech last week that almost literally no one watched and certainly very few reported on the speech that Biden gave on this topic.  To wit, anyone who opposes this bill is a racist, George Wallace loving, wrong side of history kind of person who should be shunned.
It wasn't covered because A) it's Biden and no one cares and B) it wasn't in a mean tweet, so life is good...

Rich from a guy who lauded Strom Thurmond as a great person on the floor.

[pawnman]

3 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:

Rich from a guy who lauded Strom Thurmond as a great person on the floor.

And who gave a speech in the senate about not wanting his kids to grow up in "a racial jungle".

[brickhistory]

This elder abuse is just sad...

 

Also Biden:

If this election bill is not passed the 2022 elections won't be "legitimate."

[GrndPndr]

24 minutes ago, brickhistory said:

This elder abuse is just sad...

 

Also Biden:

If this election bill is not passed the 2022 elections won't be "legitimate."

He doesn't do contemporaneous.  I'm not sure that it's senility (might be though), so much as his ADD.  That's why this is only the second full news conference he's had since gaining the office.

[dream big]

27 minutes ago, brickhistory said:

This elder abuse is just sad...

 

Also Biden:

If this election bill is not passed the 2022 elections won't be "legitimate."

It’s not elder abuse, the POS is responsible for his own actions.  He has decades long history of saying the most nonsensical things, not the mention a long history of racist comments that no one cares about since his name is preceded with a D.  It’s okay, half the country voted for him and no mean tweets!

[Sim]

[jrizzell]

It’s not elder abuse, the POS is responsible for his own actions.  He has decades long history of saying the most nonsensical things, not the mention a long history of racist comments that no one cares about since his name is preceded with a D.  It’s okay, half the country voted for him and no mean tweets!

Wrong, he received 81,284,000 (most votes in history). But we must ensure we protect voting rights…


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[kaputt]

[HeloDude]

The political left needing entertainers/the Hollywood elite to tell the common folk how great left wing politicians are…strange, I’ve never seen that done before.

[ClearedHot]

So in summary Uncle Joe has:

1.  Screwed the Afghanistan Withdraw.

2.  Torched the stock market (all gains since the election now erased).

3.  Brought inflation home to America.

4.  Failed to stop the virus as promised.

5.  Opened the door for Russia to invade Ukraine.

6.  Allowed China to rage in the South Pacific and now launch large force packages at Taiwan.

7.  Tried bring us all back together by destroying the filibuster.

He sure has re-established America on the world stage. 

Yes Trump is an ass, a horrible person, but this was worth all your hate?  Simply unreal.

[Sim]

 

 

[nsplayr]

On 1/25/2022 at 2:09 AM, ClearedHot said:

...Torched the stock market (all gains since the election now erased).

Believe what you want on the other points, but this is not true.

• DJIA close 3 Nov 2020 (election day): 27,480
• DJIA close 20 Jan 2021 (inauguration day): 31,188
• DJIA close 26 Jan 2022 (today): 34,168

 

• S&P 500 close 3 Nov 2020: 3,369
• S&P 500 close 20 Jan 2021: 3,851
• S&P 500 close 26 Jan 2022: 4,349

Stocks have indeed taken a dip off all-time highs in the last 3 weeks but...🤷‍♂️

Edited January 27, 2022 by nsplayr

[Guest LumberjackAxe]

Yeah, Biden hasn't actually done much except get me a 23% return on my investments last year, I really can't complain about that.

 

Until I had to sell my crypto portfolio to pay for groceries, that is.