The Next President is...

[Waingro]

16 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:

Probably took us a while to figure out ~500 reps is a ton. Doubt the founders quite imagined the scale of 300M people to represent, to be quite honest. Quite the derail, but you keep on that Apportionment Crusade, bud. The PYB Thread for Constitutional Scholars is a few clicks over, though.

Please don't say his name two more times, he might stop cyberstalking pawnman long enough to make an appearance here. 😂

 

My point, pal, is simply that anyone clinging to the sacred constitutionality of the process, needs to acknowledge that low-density states wield far more voting power than they did prior to 1929, and the founding fathers certainly didn't account for that.

[Prozac]

3 hours ago, mp5g said:

Bring back Congressional term limits. I happen to believe that if people weren’t so invested in protecting their cash cow job that serving in Congress has become for their entire adult lives, you’d see more compromise on issues. That’s just me. But I think we all know that dude or dudette who has stuck around in a job a little too long and refuses to change with the times because, dammit, that’s what they’ve always done. 
 

Periodically hitting refresh is not a bad thing, IMO. 

At the same time ban all of them from participating in the stock market for the duration of their terms. Radical reform of campaign finance rules while we’re at it. 

[ClearedHot]

On 1/31/2022 at 12:52 PM, Day Man said:

honest question: is the CINC involved in any of the planning around an op like this?

Leaked documents show the Biden administration was still discussing basic plans for mass civilian evacuation hours before the Taliban took Kabul

"Axios reported that leaked documents showed basic decisions hadn't been made as of August 14."

[dream big]

48 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Leaked documents show the Biden administration was still discussing basic plans for mass civilian evacuation hours before the Taliban took Kabul

"Axios reported that leaked documents showed basic decisions hadn't been made as of August 14."

Utterly shameful, more shameful is our joke of a senior defense staff (Miley, Austin).  Miley probably slow rolled the planning under Trump thinking Biden would reverse the decision.  By the time Biden had the cognitive mindset to address Afghanistan it was too late for anyone to come up with a cogent contingency plan for NEO.   Too busy focused on defending CRT and preferred pronouns. 

[ClearedHot]

I believe in being fair and giving credit when it is due. 

Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Qurashi is now dead I am proud President Biden had the stones to send our young men and women into harms way to get him. 

Today we can all celebrate that an evil son of a bitch no longer walks the earth.

Murica!

[kaputt]

 

[Tank]

[ClearedHot]

DoD lessons learned report is out and it is brutal, so ugly Biden rejected the findings during an interview on NBC last night.  At one point the top commander appealed to the White House to keep Bagram open, it took three days to get an answer and the answer was CLOSE BAGRAM.

Among the other findings:

The top U.S commander on the ground during the evacuation, Navy Rear Adm. Peter Vasely, told Army investigators that service members would have been "much better prepared to conduct a more orderly" evacuation "if policymakers had paid attention to the indicators of what was happening on the ground."

"The top Marine was not permitted to discuss the possibility of a mass-evacuation with anyone other than British officials the report noted."

Some State Department personnel were “intoxicated and cowering in rooms,” and others were “operating like it was day-to-day operations with absolutely no sense of urgency or recognition of the situation,” the officer said.

During an Aug. 6 meeting, a National Security Council official, who is not identified in the report, appeared to lack a sense of urgency and told others involved that if the United States had to execute an evacuation, it would signal “we have failed,” Sullivan recalled. “In my opinion, the NSC was not seriously planning for an evacuation,” he said.

The White House declined to comment.

 

[nsplayr]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/10/trump-records-classified/

“Some Trump records taken to Mar-a-Lago clearly marked as classified, including documents at ‘top secret’ level”

I look forward to a robust condemnation from my single-issue voters who passionately care about the Presidential Records Act, document retention and classified storage 🤣

I keed…but only a little bit.

Committing crimes is bad and folks should really try to avoid that.

Edited February 11, 2022 by nsplayr

[ClearedHot]

58 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/10/trump-records-classified/

“Some Trump records taken to Mar-a-Lago clearly marked as classified, including documents at ‘top secret’ level”

I look forward to a robust condemnation from my single-issue voters who passionately care about the Presidential Records Act, document retention and classified storage 🤣

I keed…but only a little bit.

Committing crimes is bad and folks should really try to avoid that.

100% agreed, if that happened it should be investigated and those responsible should be punished...regardless of political affiliation.  Do you share the same sentiment on the topic of the Hunter Biden Laptop or do you just hand waive like the liberal hate machine, the mainstream media and the tech oligarchs? 

[BashiChuni]

34 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/10/trump-records-classified/

“Some Trump records taken to Mar-a-Lago clearly marked as classified, including documents at ‘top secret’ level”

I look forward to a robust condemnation from my single-issue voters who passionately care about the Presidential Records Act, document retention and classified storage 🤣

I keed…but only a little bit.

Committing crimes is bad and folks should really try to avoid that.

Agree. Prosecute as required

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[Guest LumberjackAxe]

On 2/11/2022 at 7:15 AM, ClearedHot said:

Do you share the same sentiment on the topic of the Hunter Biden Laptop or do you just hand waive like the liberal hate machine, the mainstream media and the tech oligarchs? 

Whatever happened with that, other than twitter autoremoving posts? Was it real?

[M2]

[ClearedHot]

12 hours ago, LumberjackAxe said:

Whatever happened with that, other than twitter autoremoving posts? Was it real?

I believe it is part of an ongoing DOJ investigation. 

Speaking of investigations this was released yesterday "a new court filing by Special Counsel John Durham, alleges the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower and later the White House to link Trump to Russia.  How is this not breaking news on every station.  She tried to rig the American Presidential election, then she tried to illegally overturn it ans seize power.  Liberals don't care, she is now expected to speak at the NY Democratic Convention.  I know I know, at least the mean tweets are gone.

[FLEA]

44 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

I believe it is part of an ongoing DOJ investigation. 

Speaking of investigations this was released yesterday "a new court filing by Special Counsel John Durham, alleges the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower and later the White House to link Trump to Russia.  How is this not breaking news on every station.  She tried to rig the American Presidential election, then she tried to illegally overturn it ans seize power.  Liberals don't care, she is now expected to speak at the NY Democratic Convention.  I know I know, at least the mean tweets are gone.

I don't want to believe that the US scores high for political corruption compared to other countries, but that is exactly where we are at. 

We've gotten to the point where it is acceptable for both sides to try and overturn or rig election results in an effort to keep power. It's not just Hilary and Trump either. This was a trend I've seen worsen in every election I've been alive. It involves the coordinated effort to delegitimize the sitting President as a means to erode their power. 

[Guest LumberjackAxe]

This is simply too boring of a story to make any rounds outside of conservative publications. Hillary hired a law firm, who then hired someone who worked at an IT company who provided DNS services for the White House. He then selectively provided certain DNS requests to make it look like Trump’s office was secretly and frequently communicating with servers in Russia (which it turns out is extremely common with everyone in this day and age). This agent then lied under oath about who he was representing. 
 

sorry but this just isn’t that interesting in this day and age, and, contrary to what Trump says, this isn’t worse than Watergate. Illegal, yes, but we’ve already kind of set the standard that illegal doesn’t mean much

[brickhistory]

On 2/11/2022 at 8:43 AM, nsplayr said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/10/trump-records-classified/

“Some Trump records taken to Mar-a-Lago clearly marked as classified, including documents at ‘top secret’ level”

I look forward to a robust condemnation from my single-issue voters who passionately care about the Presidential Records Act, document retention and classified storage 🤣

I keed…but only a little bit.

Committing crimes is bad and folks should really try to avoid that.

A)  Same Washington Post that covered the Russia collusion stories?  And how many other anti-Trump stories?  But ok...

B)  I agree that mishandling classified material should be prosecuted.

C) I think any Trump investigation regarding having illicitclassified should be investigated and prosecuted with the same level of diligence that former Sen/SecState Clinton received with having dozens of classified e-mails up to and including SAP/STO on her personal home server system.  The deliberate destruction of public records, as demanded by the same NARA-related laws, can be discussed later.

D) Anyone remember Sandy Berger?

[brickhistory]

On 2/11/2022 at 6:55 AM, ClearedHot said:

DoD lessons learned report is out and it is brutal, so ugly Biden rejected the findings during an interview on NBC last night. 

....

 

Uh, wait...I thought this was the trust the experts Administration...

[Guest LumberjackAxe]

I had to look up Sandy Berger, as I was but a wee lad at the time.

Quote

On July 19, 2004, it was revealed that the United States Department of Justice was investigating Berger for unauthorized removal of classified documents in October 2003 from a National Archives reading room prior to testifying before the 9/11 Commission. The documents were five classified copies of a single report commissioned from Richard Clarke covering internal assessments of the Clinton Administration's handling of the unsuccessful 2000 millennium attack plots. An associate of Berger said Berger took one copy in September 2003 and four copies in October 2003, allegedly by stuffing the documents into his socks and pants. Berger subsequently lied to investigators when questioned about the removal of the documents.

In April 2005, Berger pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material from the National Archives in Washington, D.C.

Berger was fined $50,000, sentenced to serve two years of probation and 100 hours of community service, and stripped of his security clearance for three years The Justice Department initially said Berger only stole copies of classified documents and not originals, but the House Government Reform Committee later revealed that an unsupervised Berger had been given access to classified files of original, uncopied, uninventoried documents on terrorism. During the House Government Reform Committee hearings, Nancy Kegan Smith — who was the director of the presidential documents staff at the National Archives and Records Administration — acknowledged that she had granted Berger access to original materials in her office.

On December 20, 2006, Inspector General Paul Brachfeld reported that Berger took a break to go outside without an escort. "In total, during this visit, he removed four documents ... Mr. Berger said he placed the documents under a trailer in an accessible construction area outside Archives 1 (the main Archives building)". Berger acknowledged having later retrieved the documents from the construction area and returned with them to his office.

 

[ClearedHot]

23 hours ago, LumberjackAxe said:

This is simply too boring of a story to make any rounds outside of conservative publications. Hillary hired a law firm, who then hired someone who worked at an IT company who provided DNS services for the White House. He then selectively provided certain DNS requests to make it look like Trump’s office was secretly and frequently communicating with servers in Russia (which it turns out is extremely common with everyone in this day and age). This agent then lied under oath about who he was representing. 
 

sorry but this just isn’t that interesting in this day and age, and, contrary to what Trump says, this isn’t worse than Watergate. Illegal, yes, but we’ve already kind of set the standard that illegal doesn’t mean much

Wait...this isn't worse than Watergate?  Breaking in to the political headquarters of a rival is despicable, banana republic type crap, and Nixon paid for it (well, he paid for lying).  This is worse, Clinton paid to hack WHITE HOUSE servers, the communications of a sitting president.  When they didn't find anything they made up a story and inserted into the press which led to an impeachment.  There isn't a separation of liability and responsibility just because they hired a law firm.  The imported the very people that tried to overthrow a sitting president and they are now in power!  Look no further than the dude that led this effort, he is now the sitting National Security Advisor...you don't seen the nexus and how this is far worse?

[Smokin]

What ClearedHot said.  Breaking the law to get potential dirt on your opponent is bad.  Breaking the law to frame a sitting president in order to overturn an election is really bad.  If Trump had done this to Biden, we would not be able to see any other story on TV for the next 6 months.

Of an interesting academic note to ponder about those records; my understanding is that the executive branch makes all classification decisions.  As the President is the ultimate executive authority, I don't think a President can actually break the law regarding the handling of classified materials.  If he reveals Top Secret information to the press, he just declassified it.  Clearly not a good idea, but if the records were moved while he was President, it would be interesting to see if he could actually be prosecuted for it. 

[Prozac]

6 hours ago, Smokin said:

What ClearedHot said.  Breaking the law to get potential dirt on your opponent is bad.  Breaking the law to frame a sitting president in order to overturn an election is really bad.  If Trump had done this to Biden, we would not be able to see any other story on TV for the next 6 months.

Of an interesting academic note to ponder about those records; my understanding is that the executive branch makes all classification decisions.  As the President is the ultimate executive authority, I don't think a President can actually break the law regarding the handling of classified materials.  If he reveals Top Secret information to the press, he just declassified it.  Clearly not a good idea, but if the records were moved while he was President, it would be interesting to see if he could actually be prosecuted for it. 

So basically what you’re saying is…

 

[Guest LumberjackAxe]

 

8 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Clinton paid to hack WHITE HOUSE servers

No one hacked anything. The dude in question is on trial for perjury, not for illegally accessing a computer system. This was a fellow who unethically used his position in the IT company that legally controlled these networks to access DNS logs, which he had legal access to. Unethical, yes, but not illegal. The illegal part is when he lied about who he was working with.

And this has nothing to do with Trump's impeachment, he was impeached for his Ukraine phone call, because, as we've all seen, there never was any collusion to begin with.

[BFM this]

22 hours ago, LumberjackAxe said:

This was a fellow who [...]

Ok, I'm confused here.  Are you saying that the man on trial was part of a White House Fellowship, or are you wearing a smoking jacket while typing BODN posts?  Honest question.