The Next President is...

[Prozac]

4 hours ago, LumberjackAxe said:

lol why are we still talking about Hillary? Of all the shenanigans that politicians have done over the last six years, the fact that she fabricated a fake news story about her opponent from an election six years ago is about as interesting as a sexual harassment settlement at a main stream media corp. There are far more legitimate and concerning actions by the president we have right now that deserve our attention. EDIT: like the fact that he's legitimately considering cancelling student debt in a time when we have record inflation

But, but, but….don’t forget about the emails. And Benghazi. And it’s pretty much accepted she killed Epstein in his prison cell. Some conservatives will beat that carcass until there’s nothing left and then they’ll beat the imprint that it left in the ground. 

[herkbum]

But, but, but….don’t forget about the emails. And Benghazi. And it’s pretty much accepted she killed Epstein in his prison cell. Some conservatives will beat that carcass until there’s nothing left and then they’ll beat the imprint that it left in the ground. 

And why not? Has she paid any price for her crimes? If it were you or I, we would have been blistered years ago.

That’s a major part of the problem. These folks feel they are above the law, and in most cases, it appears they are. Politicians need to be prosecuted just like everyone else. If they were, then I believe the world would be a better place.


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[HeloDude]

1 hour ago, Prozac said:

Last I heard, he wants to be the R nominee in 2024. Thanks for making my point for me. 

I’m not aware of him saying he’s running or not?  Just like Hillary…

[nsplayr]

3 hours ago, herkbum said:

That’s a major part of the problem. These folks feel they are above the law, and in most cases, it appears they are. Politicians need to be prosecuted just like everyone else. If they were, then I believe the world would be a better place.

I agree with you 100% on this.

As a famous person once said, “You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”

Normal folks would rightfully roast for a lifetime of this kind of “rules don’t apply to me” behavior, and I genuinely don’t want our leaders to be rewarded with power and privilege when they are like this. Bill, Hillary, Trump, too many of them acted this and we all collectively let them off the hook and continue to do so.

To their credit, Reagan, Carter, GHWB, Obama and to a lesser extend GWB were not entitled, flagrant rule-breakers IMHO and we should elect more people like them and less who are charismatic “bad boys” who just do whatever they want with few to no consequences (JFK, Bill, Trump). Nixon is obviously also in the “rules don’t apply to me” camp although minus most of the charisma…

Edited May 22, 2022 by nsplayr

[Prozac]

3 hours ago, HeloDude said:

I’m not aware of him saying he’s running or not?  Just like Hillary…

How many rallys has Hillary had since she lost? 

[HeloDude]

25 minutes ago, Prozac said:

How many rallys has Hillary had since she lost? 

Wait…so you’re saying that Trump has formally announced that he’s running for President in 2024?  Can you provide a source to share?

[brickhistory]

I want Hillary to go to jail for any of the many illegal things she's gotten away with over her misbegotten career.

To show that justice works for both the little people and those "too big to fail."

I want some convictions, in particular, over the Russian collusion fiasco because I want the executive branch to know that it's not ok to pick sides.  I do not want to see the continued weaponization of various federal agencies along with their resources to absolutely fcuk over peoples' lives.

I want the various GS13s-15s/SESs' to understand they will face consequences for doing illegal things in pursuit of partisan political objectives or to fight against those policies with which they disagree.

I do not want more rogue CIA/FBI/IRSI employees.  I do not want jumped up Lt Cols who think they should set policy and not those elected officials.

A few perp walks might make someone reconsider for the next time.

[busdriver]

12 hours ago, nsplayr said:

“rules don’t apply to me” behavior,.........entitled, flagrant rule-breakers.........charismatic “bad boys” who just do whatever they want with few to no consequences

agree with your point 100%.  I'm not sure what the actual personality trait is that we're batting around, but I don't think entitled rule-breaker really covers it.  That seems more trust fund baby, teen angsty to me.  Aristocratic narcissist maybe?  Although charismatic bad-boy is probably useful.  But I digress/ramble.

In an age when the social media popularity contest is how people succeed or fail in politics, social media star personalities will be the norm.

Is everyone ready for President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho?

[FLEA]

1 hour ago, brickhistory said:

I want Hillary to go to jail for any of the many illegal things she's gotten away with over her misbegotten career.

To show that justice works for both the little people and those "too big to fail."

I want some convictions, in particular, over the Russian collusion fiasco because I want the executive branch to know that it's not ok to pick sides.  I do not want to see the continued weaponization of various federal agencies along with their resources to absolutely fcuk over peoples' lives.

I want the various GS13s-15s/SESs' to understand they will face consequences for doing illegal things in pursuit of partisan political objectives or to fight against those policies with which they disagree.

I do not want more rogue CIA/FBI/IRSI employees.  I do not want jumped up Lt Cols who think they should set policy and not those elected officials.

A few perp walks might make someone reconsider for the next time.

The big issue with the Russian collusion crap, outside of influencing an election, was it out a cloud on Trump's presidency that undermined the legitimacy of his official position. In other words, with every policy or effort he put forward, it was dismissed with skepticism his entire presidency because people believed he wasn't even lawfully president. That said, there is a bit of irony because that was the same play with the Obama birther hoax. However, this is a dangerous game to play and one that invites insurgency. Between this and election fraud claims, the trust that Americans have that their leadership is actually elected democratically is very low. When that trust is extinguished, you better believe there will be terrorism, insurgency and civil war by the people in am effort to restore the institution. It's stunningly dangerous to our democracy. 

 

[pawnman]

25 minutes ago, busdriver said:

agree with your point 100%.  I'm not sure what the actual personality trait is that we're batting around, but I don't think entitled rule-breaker really covers it.  That seems more trust fund baby, teen angsty to me.  Aristocratic narcissist maybe?  Although charismatic bad-boy is probably useful.  But I digress/ramble.

In an age when the social media popularity contest is how people succeed or fail in politics, social media star personalities will be the norm.

Is everyone ready for President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho?

At least President Camacho realized he needed outside help and got the best expert he could find to advise him. 

[Guardian]

…….the Obama birther hoax.
 

Huh? It’s a hoax? Since when? (Sarcasm)

[TreeA10]

2 hours ago, pawnman said:

At least President Camacho realized he needed outside help and got the best expert he could find to advise him. 

 

[GrndPndr]

Huh, Pres says high gas prices are just the things are going to be from now on.  I think his signing person says it all in this pic...

https://nypost.com/2022/05/23/biden-praises-gas-prices-as-part-of-incredible-transition/

[dream big]

7 hours ago, GrndPndr said:

Huh, Pres says high gas prices are just the things are going to be from now on.  I think his signing person says it all in this pic...

https://nypost.com/2022/05/23/biden-praises-gas-prices-as-part-of-incredible-transition/

Anyone with half a brain should realize that the leftist establishment pulling Brandon’s puppet strings loves our gas situation.  1- Furthers their argument of acceleration of programs like the Green New Deal, 2- Improves their justification for large scale social programs just in time for the midterms.  What is the saying? “Never let a good crisis go to waste”.

[HeloDude]

On 1/28/2022 at 9:28 PM, nsplayr said:

I like Biden enough and I think the economy in particular is doing much better than people's perceptions of it; the sentiment is unmorred from the reality. Powell at the Fed + very robust emergency/recovery spending from Congress since spring 2020 have given the US a giant leg up economically coming out of the pandemic compared to peer democracies in Europe and elsewhere. Essentially full employment at this stage is an incredible achievement and 2021 has the strongest GDP growth since 1984.

Just curious if you think things are still going well?

[M2]

5 hours ago, HeloDude said:

Just curious if you think things are still going well?

So do I!

[kaputt]

It’s just an “incredible transition” we must all go through!

[Negatory]

Another well informed take that boils down an entirely flawed economic policy among all us government since 2001 into simplistic red vs blue. It’s everyone’s fault here.

How much of gas prices are due to domestic economic policies dictated by the executive branch? Is the US President causing gas to be $6-9 across Europe as well? Oh wait this is global? That’s not good for my narrative or funny gas pump stickers. Or is there a potential that a war in Ukraine + restarting a global economy after a massive overreaction due to COVID + a literal cartel (OPEC) have a lot more to do with energy prices? Also, reminder that there are a surplus of drilling permits (about 10 years worth) available by the federal gov that are unused. What’s the policy you think that would solve this?

https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/spending/articles/a-look-at-gas-prices-around-the-world

Second, how much of inflation is due to quantitative easing? Reminder that the Trump admin effectively printed and threw over $3T into the economy in 2020 to prop up the stock market. 2 of the 3 stimuluses came from GOP leadership, but giving that free socialism money to everyone probably had no effect on inflation. At least no effect we should talk about.

The bottom line is that neoliberal economic policy, which both parties fully support, is driving us off a cliff. Unlimited economic growth in a limited society (actually approaching contracting) isn’t possible. It’s time to raise the interest rates to 6-9% and deal with our poor decisions we have made thinking we could avoid natural economic cycles. The real marker in failure economically was October 2019 when the government saw that quantitative tightening (the right call) made the stock market go down and abandoned all logic to maintain the illusion of a green DJIA. Then COVID happened and the whole of US government lost their collective minds.

Edited June 12, 2022 by Negatory

[M2]

Yeah, except these were the gas prices under Trump, so I'm not buying it...

[tac airlifter]

16 minutes ago, Negatory said:

Another well informed take that boils down an entirely flawed economic policy among all us government since 2001 into simplistic red vs blue. It’s everyone’s fault here.

How much of gas prices are due to domestic economic policies dictated by the executive branch? Is the US President causing gas to be $6-9 across Europe as well? Oh wait this is global? That’s not good for my narrative or funny gas pump stickers. Or is there a potential that a war in Ukraine + restarting a global economy after a massive overreaction due to COVID + a literal cartel (OPEC) have a lot more to do with energy prices? Also, reminder that there are a surplus of drilling permits (about 10 years worth) available by the federal gov that are unused. What’s the policy you think that would solve this?

https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/spending/articles/a-look-at-gas-prices-around-the-world

Second, how much of inflation is due to quantitative easing? Reminder that the Trump admin effectively printed and threw over $3T into the economy in 2020 to prop up the stock market. 2 of the 3 stimuluses came from GOP leadership, but giving that free socialism money to everyone probably had no effect on inflation. At least no effect we should talk about.

The bottom line is that neoliberal economic policy, which both parties fully support, is driving us off a cliff. Unlimited economic growth in a limited society (actually approaching contracting) isn’t possible. It’s time to raise the interest rates to 6-9% and deal with our poor decisions we have made thinking we could avoid natural economic cycles. The real marker in failure economically was October 2019 when the government saw that quantitative tightening (the right call) made the stock market go down and abandoned all logic to maintain the illusion of a green DJIA. Then COVID happened and the whole of US government lost their collective minds.

You’re trying really hard to ignore the obvious: Trump oversaw a great economy & Biden wrecked it.  Regardless of personal feelings on either individual or administration, my simple statement is just clear as day to anyone living here the past 24 months.

[brabus]

Negatory does bring up valid CFs, and perhaps his annoyance stems from people ignoring those CFs in conversation (intentionally or not). But the RC absolutely is Biden and his policies. He has fucked up royally, but it’s disingenuous to say nothing else has contributed to our economic problems and helping increase the effects of Biden’s fuck ups. 

[FLEA]

26 minutes ago, Negatory said:

Another well informed take that boils down an entirely flawed economic policy among all us government since 2001 into simplistic red vs blue. It’s everyone’s fault here.

How much of gas prices are due to domestic economic policies dictated by the executive branch? Is the US President causing gas to be $6-9 across Europe as well? Oh wait this is global? That’s not good for my narrative or funny gas pump stickers. Or is there a potential that a war in Ukraine + restarting a global economy after a massive overreaction due to COVID + a literal cartel (OPEC) have a lot more to do with energy prices? Also, reminder that there are a surplus of drilling permits (about 10 years worth) available by the federal gov that are unused. What’s the policy you think that would solve this?

https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/spending/articles/a-look-at-gas-prices-around-the-world

Second, how much of inflation is due to quantitative easing? Reminder that the Trump admin effectively printed and threw over $3T into the economy in 2020 to prop up the stock market. 2 of the 3 stimuluses came from GOP leadership, but giving that free socialism money to everyone probably had no effect on inflation. At least no effect we should talk about.

The bottom line is that neoliberal economic policy, which both parties fully support, is driving us off a cliff. Unlimited economic growth in a limited society (actually approaching contracting) isn’t possible. It’s time to raise the interest rates to 6-9% and deal with our poor decisions we have made thinking we could avoid natural economic cycles. The real marker in failure economically was October 2019 when the government saw that quantitative tightening (the right call) made the stock market go down and abandoned all logic to maintain the illusion of a green DJIA. Then COVID happened and the whole of US government lost their collective minds.

Gas prices are up in Europe but not nearly as bad compared to US. $6-9/gallon has always been normal in Europe. I just filled my tank in Croatia last night at $7/gallon. That's pretty good in Europe actually since normally you are paying per liter what the US pays per a gallon. 

COLA across Europe is going down despite cost of living going up. The reason is, from the DoD's mouth, is because the standard of living is dropping in the US compared to Europe. In other words, because Captains and SSgt's have a reduced standard of living in the US compared to last year, COLA drops because it's only meant to offset the normally decreased standard of living in other countries. 

I think crediting the Biden admin for doing anything to help the economy in comparison to Europe would be short sighted. Countries like Germany had massive cash reserves going into the pandemic. They were able to afford shutting things down longer because they paid from those cash reserves and didn't print more money or take loans to support their local commerce while this all happened. 

[kaputt]

There are of course multiple issues playing into the cost of gas prices, but the lack of effective leadership on the issue means that people are still going to keep looking back at Biden as prices keep going up. 
 

The 9,000 unused permits or whatever is a misleading talking point. Just because there is a permit to drill doesn’t mean that land has enough oil or gas to effectively be drilled. That claim is akin to saying to a prospector in 1849, “you have 2,000 acres of land in California, how are you not finding gold!?” 
 

The Department of Interior is already working to increase the royalties the government collects on federal land drilling. The permit process is exceptionally slow and makes it very difficult to get permits approved for drilling that may actually be cost effective.  Not to mention the generally hostile position towards fossil fuels from this admin, including cancelling pipelines, etc… All of this is going to impact the market, on top of the Ukraine-Russia problems. 
 

Can Biden wave a magic wand and bring gas prices down? No. But just like everything else that happens during this administration, there is a complete vacuum of leadership. 
 

This admin obviously wants to eventually move America away completely from fossil fuels. I don’t agree with that position at all, but if I were this admin, here is what effective leadership might look like. “American people: my goal is to continue to move this country towards the green and renewable future of energy. But it’s clear the American people are hurting right now. In response to this I am sitting down with US oil companies to find out what we can do to improve US oil production and supply. In addition, I am working to immediately suspend the DOI’s plan for increased royalties and directing them to streamline and trim the existing permit approval process. It’s my mission to make sure American people are able to fill their tanks today while we continue to work towards an alternative fuel future.”

Instead, we get told, “fuck you normal people, these prices are all part of the plan to make you switch to something else for your transportation needs. Boo hoo, you’re going broke right now, not my problem. Oh, and btw, quit your whining, I’m going to go beg to the Saudi’s for more oil.” It’s no wonder people slap “I did that” stickers on gas pumps. 
 

Has this admin genuinely faced some tough circumstances? Yes. But effective leadership is marked by how you handle those circumstances. You can’t just keep pointing blame at other things and people, take no action, and then expect the people your leading to not start to look to you for why things are so shitty. 

[M2]

It's more than just gas prices...

[HeloDude]

On 1/26/2022 at 11:48 PM, nsplayr said:

Believe what you want on the other points, but this is not true.

• DJIA close 3 Nov 2020 (election day): 27,480
• DJIA close 20 Jan 2021 (inauguration day): 31,188
• DJIA close 26 Jan 2022 (today): 34,168

 

• S&P 500 close 3 Nov 2020: 3,369
• S&P 500 close 20 Jan 2021: 3,851
• S&P 500 close 26 Jan 2022: 4,349

Stocks have indeed taken a dip off all-time highs in the last 3 weeks but...🤷‍♂️

Well, we’re below when Trump was last president…

Is Biden to blame, partially.  Is Trump to blame, partially.  But here’s the problem—Biden is president and the Dems have full control over the federal legislation process.  So what is their plan?

Edited June 13, 2022 by HeloDude