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[ecugringo]

13 hours ago, M2 said:

It's more than just gas prices...

Groceries seem like they are much higher.

 

As far as Fuel and Oil prices are concerned there are many factors.  I work in the industry and no matter what, everyone thinks the Prez is 100% responsible for Gas prices.  Well they are not.....Mostly.

Back in 14' Oil took a huge dump.  A lot of investment in exploration was put on hold.  It only started to recover right before Covid.  Then it took a massive dump.  

For US operators, Oil needs to be above $50/$60bbl to make $$$.  The higher the bigger drive to install new wells and increase production.

Keep in mind Oil is a global commodity and the more you have, the supply/demand isnt as tight and the price will drop.

During Covid, Russia and OPEC flooded the market with cheap oil.  Maybe this was to hurt the US?  Tough to tell.

Since the Covid recovery, demand is up but production went way down.  The DEMS are hurting this by pushing hte Green new Deal.  Oil companies are getting massive tax breaks to shutter refineries or convert to bio diesel.  About 10 refineries are offline since Covid.  It would cost billions to get them back running.  If you're exxon, p66 etc...are you going to spend billions to get a refinery back up and invest in new leases when Ford says 60% of the fleet will be EV in a few years?  No....they will sit on the cash they are swimming in.

Also, a lot of hte leases available dont have easy access to the crude and are expensive to extract from.  Something else to keep in mind.

So in summery:

Demand is close to pre covid, There are fewer refineries to make fuel, there is less production going on in the US, Russian Crude has been removed from the global market.

Im still waiting on the DOE's plan to have a grid that can handle all the EV's and other push to electric.

RIght now, TX cant handle a week of cold, the west cant handle heat.

 

 

[SurelySerious]

Well…Russian crude hasn’t really been removed from the global market. Articles recently detailing creative ways to get around sanctions, and with higher oil prices the Putin is probably bringing as much if not more than before. I don’t have source link, but I digress in my opinion the admin should be pushing for lower oil prices not only because of American pocketbooks, but because right now our adversary is likely raking in profits.

[Blue]

1 hour ago, ecugringo said:

RIght now, TX cant handle a week of cold, the west cant handle heat.

It's really stunning the amount of infrastructure that has been dismantled or otherwise hobbled in the pursuit of so-called "green" agendas.

[ViperMan]

On 6/12/2022 at 6:33 AM, Negatory said:

Is the US President causing gas to be $6-9 across Europe as well? Oh wait this is global? That’s not good for my narrative or funny gas pump stickers. Or is there a potential that a war in Ukraine + restarting a global economy after a massive overreaction due to COVID + a literal cartel (OPEC) have a lot more to do with energy prices?

Gas has always been more expensive in Europe. European nations are not, and have never been, energy independent - we have been. The US has all the energy we need within our own borders, and we have historically been a net exporter of energy. We purchase from others for good strategic and other economic reasons.

On 6/12/2022 at 6:33 AM, Negatory said:

Second, how much of inflation is due to quantitative easing? Reminder that the Trump admin effectively printed and threw over $3T into the economy in 2020 to prop up the stock market. 2 of the 3 stimuluses came from GOP leadership, but giving that free socialism money to everyone probably had no effect on inflation. At least no effect we should talk about.

ALL of the Trump stimulus was bi-partisan, and ALL of the shut down happened under Trump. COVID was under control when Biden took the reigns. Biden's stimulus was fully partisan and had zero support from the right - it was a democrat giveaway. Here is an economist credibly arguing that inflation is about double what it would be, save for Biden's extra stimulus:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-inflation-economy-what-you-need-to-know/id1570872415?i=1000558019343

On 6/12/2022 at 6:33 AM, Negatory said:

It’s time to raise the interest rates to 6-9% and deal with our poor decisions we have made thinking we could avoid natural economic cycles. The real marker in failure economically was October 2019 when the government saw that quantitative tightening (the right call) made the stock market go down and abandoned all logic to maintain the illusion of a green DJIA.

Agreed, but our current economic conundrum is not solely due to the COVID crisis. There were other mistakes dating all the way back in 2008 (i.e. not allowing a full crash to happen). Latent effects from that event have still not fully cleared the system, and someday they must, lest we continue hurtling down the economic black hole we're staring into. Banks had (and have) stopped foreclosing on properties that defaulted during the 2008 recession. What is the net effect of this??? Spoiler alert: inflation.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-bubble-era-home-mortgages-are-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen-2019-02-25?mod=article_inline

"In 2012, just 2% of all these delinquent borrowers had not paid for more than five years. Two years later that number had skyrocketed to 21%. Why?  Mortgage servicers around the country had discontinued foreclosing on millions of delinquent properties.  Homeowners got wind of this and realized they could probably stop making payments without any consequences whatsoever.  So they did."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-ghost-of-the-housing-bubble-still-haunts-the-home-mortgage-market-2020-01-15

"By mid-2010, mortgage servicers around the nation had a strategy of supporting housing markets by not placing expensive foreclosed properties on the active market.  They had also begun to take the next step of cutting back on foreclosing long-term delinquent properties."

"As I have reiterated many times, mortgage servicers have consistently maintained this strategy of not foreclosing on jumbo mortgages. What seems crystal clear is that the vast majority of long-term delinquent jumbo mortgages have not been foreclosed and are still outstanding.  Many jumbo borrowers have not paid for years. As a result, the jumbo-mortgage market now is a ticking time bomb."

[ClearedHot]

 

[Prozac]

5 hours ago, ecugringo said:

Groceries seem like they are much higher.

 

As far as Fuel and Oil prices are concerned there are many factors.  I work in the industry and no matter what, everyone thinks the Prez is 100% responsible for Gas prices.  Well they are not.....Mostly.

Back in 14' Oil took a huge dump.  A lot of investment in exploration was put on hold.  It only started to recover right before Covid.  Then it took a massive dump.  

For US operators, Oil needs to be above $50/$60bbl to make $$$.  The higher the bigger drive to install new wells and increase production.

Keep in mind Oil is a global commodity and the more you have, the supply/demand isnt as tight and the price will drop.

During Covid, Russia and OPEC flooded the market with cheap oil.  Maybe this was to hurt the US?  Tough to tell.

Since the Covid recovery, demand is up but production went way down.  The DEMS are hurting this by pushing hte Green new Deal.  Oil companies are getting massive tax breaks to shutter refineries or convert to bio diesel.  About 10 refineries are offline since Covid.  It would cost billions to get them back running.  If you're exxon, p66 etc...are you going to spend billions to get a refinery back up and invest in new leases when Ford says 60% of the fleet will be EV in a few years?  No....they will sit on the cash they are swimming in.

Also, a lot of hte leases available dont have easy access to the crude and are expensive to extract from.  Something else to keep in mind.

So in summery:

Demand is close to pre covid, There are fewer refineries to make fuel, there is less production going on in the US, Russian Crude has been removed from the global market.

Im still waiting on the DOE's plan to have a grid that can handle all the EV's and other push to electric.

RIght now, TX cant handle a week of cold, the west cant handle heat.

 

 

Nice to see a well thought out criticism of current policies that doesn’t rely on over generalizations, memes, or an attempt to “own the libs”. As someone who voted for Biden (and would again given the same opponent), I agree with just about all of this. I’m fully onboard with green energy. There is no doubt that it is the future and the US has the potential to be the world leader in its development. It will create thousands of jobs and billions in wealth. We should be investing heavily in R&D and infrastructure development. But the timeline that’s being sold by the Democrats is cuckoo for coco puffs. California says it’s banning ICEs as of 2035. Not to be outdone, Washington state says it’ll do the same in 2030. These policy goals are almost as outlandish and counterproductive as “defund the police” and Democrats should know better. Problem is, the running argument on the right is equally extreme. We need responsible policymakers who land somewhere in between “climate change is a hoax, roll coal baby!” and “electric cars are here today, next up: banning cow farts”. 

[HeloDude]

1 hour ago, Prozac said:

As someone who voted for Biden (and would again given the same opponent)…

Just curious, if the 2024 election was held next week and the Dem nominee was Biden and the GOP nominee was DeSantis, assuming their platform was exactly based off of what you know of both of them today, who would you vote for?

[ecugringo]

2 hours ago, Prozac said:

Nice to see a well thought out criticism of current policies that doesn’t rely on over generalizations, memes, or an attempt to “own the libs”. As someone who voted for Biden (and would again given the same opponent), I agree with just about all of this. I’m fully onboard with green energy. There is no doubt that it is the future and the US has the potential to be the world leader in its development. It will create thousands of jobs and billions in wealth. We should be investing heavily in R&D and infrastructure development. But the timeline that’s being sold by the Democrats is cuckoo for coco puffs. California says it’s banning ICEs as of 2035. Not to be outdone, Washington state says it’ll do the same in 2030. These policy goals are almost as outlandish and counterproductive as “defund the police” and Democrats should know better. Problem is, the running argument on the right is equally extreme. We need responsible policymakers who land somewhere in between “climate change is a hoax, roll coal baby!” and “electric cars are here today, next up: banning cow farts”. 

There are a number of issues with Green energy.  I would not look at Europe as a beacon of light.  They subsidize their green energy but they are currently at the mercy of Putin with Gas.  IMO the Ukraine conflict has very much to do with Oil and Gas.  The Caspian area has a massive play where Exxon among others have invested billions.  The pipelines run through Ukraine and you cant really bypass Ukraine from the field to get to market.  If you can own Ukraine you keep the taxes and tarriffs to yourself.  If you recall the drama on the pipeline in the Bakken in North Dakota where the Indians were mad about it polluting the Missouri and their Rez, celebrities came out in the cold to protest.  Well the Indians wanted hefty fees to pass through the rez so the  oil company just bypassed it so they cried fowl to get it back.

You talk about thousands of green jobs being created, do you care for the tens of thousands that will be lost?  This industry pays well and provides opportunities to those that if they want to grind, they can make more than they dreamed.  The tax revenues alone to all local to feds are in hte hundreds of billions.  The only real green jobs i see are punks selling solar door to door so their company can get a tax rebate.  Just look at Houston.  one of hte fastest growing metros.  You think they can all just work in wind?

If you are a fan of Green energy you really need to understand how the grid will be affected if you make a fast switch.  Nukes have been phased out, coal is being phased out.  The flat out truth is we are consuming more energy than ever.  Play the global warming card and the Earth getting hotter, thats just more AC running.  

Wind is a real joke.  My company has an Advanced Engineering division.  We have done studies on wind turbines and the load they experience isnt sustainable.  They will fail long before create the energy they promised.  ALso they are made of toxic materials and cant be reused or destroyed.  So landfill it is.

Ive had solar on my home in hte past and it really doesnt make sense financially.  The ROI is typically not within reach considering when you are in range of payout, the panels wont be producing as new.  

Im not against Green Energy, I am just a realists.  Most Teslas are powered by coal or natural gas.  The US has oceans of Natural Gas.  If they want to expand the grid they can easily replace coal with Nukes and Natural Gas.  IMO solar and wind will never get us there.  It will need to be some tech of a fusion reactor if we go down the road with as many EVs as promised.

Lastly IMHO is that the Dems know this but they will make promises on the Green push that they will never see in their lives but are happy to buy the votes.  They laugh as the family struggling to get buy to pay $100 to fill up their car on the way to hte beach.  I lived in CO and Gov Polis and Hickenlooper both promised to move the state away from O&G.  However, they have no way to support the state if they did. They know this but still make it a priority.

[Prozac]

1 hour ago, ecugringo said:

There are a number of issues with Green energy.  I would not look at Europe as a beacon of light.  They subsidize their green energy but they are currently at the mercy of Putin with Gas.  IMO the Ukraine conflict has very much to do with Oil and Gas.  The Caspian area has a massive play where Exxon among others have invested billions.  The pipelines run through Ukraine and you cant really bypass Ukraine from the field to get to market.  If you can own Ukraine you keep the taxes and tarriffs to yourself.  If you recall the drama on the pipeline in the Bakken in North Dakota where the Indians were mad about it polluting the Missouri and their Rez, celebrities came out in the cold to protest.  Well the Indians wanted hefty fees to pass through the rez so the  oil company just bypassed it so they cried fowl to get it back.

You talk about thousands of green jobs being created, do you care for the tens of thousands that will be lost?  This industry pays well and provides opportunities to those that if they want to grind, they can make more than they dreamed.  The tax revenues alone to all local to feds are in hte hundreds of billions.  The only real green jobs i see are punks selling solar door to door so their company can get a tax rebate.  Just look at Houston.  one of hte fastest growing metros.  You think they can all just work in wind?

If you are a fan of Green energy you really need to understand how the grid will be affected if you make a fast switch.  Nukes have been phased out, coal is being phased out.  The flat out truth is we are consuming more energy than ever.  Play the global warming card and the Earth getting hotter, thats just more AC running.  

Wind is a real joke.  My company has an Advanced Engineering division.  We have done studies on wind turbines and the load they experience isnt sustainable.  They will fail long before create the energy they promised.  ALso they are made of toxic materials and cant be reused or destroyed.  So landfill it is.

Ive had solar on my home in hte past and it really doesnt make sense financially.  The ROI is typically not within reach considering when you are in range of payout, the panels wont be producing as new.  

Im not against Green Energy, I am just a realists.  Most Teslas are powered by coal or natural gas.  The US has oceans of Natural Gas.  If they want to expand the grid they can easily replace coal with Nukes and Natural Gas.  IMO solar and wind will never get us there.  It will need to be some tech of a fusion reactor if we go down the road with as many EVs as promised.

Lastly IMHO is that the Dems know this but they will make promises on the Green push that they will never see in their lives but are happy to buy the votes.  They laugh as the family struggling to get buy to pay $100 to fill up their car on the way to hte beach.  I lived in CO and Gov Polis and Hickenlooper both promised to move the state away from O&G.  However, they have no way to support the state if they did. They know this but still make it a priority.

I think you misunderstood my argument. Green is certainly the future, but we are talking a generation or more down the road. A “fast switch” is impossible and Dems are irresponsible when they sell it that way. We need to invest in current AND future infrastructure and come to terms with the fact that the changeover will be gradual. But it will happen. Batteries will get more efficient, solar roofs will become the norm, greenies will realize nuclear solves a lot of problems, and fusion reactors may even come on line in a few decades. In the meantime, the world still runs on diesel and that fact needs to be acknowledged. 

[Prozac]

3 hours ago, HeloDude said:

Just curious, if the 2024 election was held next week and the Dem nominee was Biden and the GOP nominee was DeSantis, assuming their platform was exactly based off of what you know of both of them today, who would you vote for?

Honestly don’t know all that much about DeSantis and running Florida certainly isn’t the same as running the country. I wouldn’t commit to making that call until I see his presidential platform IF he runs. I’m willing to listen with an open mind though. 

[HeloDude]

3 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Honestly don’t know all that much about DeSantis and running Florida certainly isn’t the same as running the country. I wouldn’t commit to making that call until I see his presidential platform IF he runs. I’m willing to listen with an open mind though. 

That’s why I asked based on what you know right now?  You can always change your mind since it’s not the real election lol.

You voted for Biden and he hadn’t ran anything…so I would say that running Florida is just a little more than running nothing.

[M2]

21 minutes ago, Prozac said:

I think you misunderstood my argument. Green is certainly the future, but we are talking a generation or more down the road. A “fast switch” is impossible and Dems are irresponsible when they sell it that way. We need to invest in current AND future infrastructure and come to terms with the fact that the changeover will be gradual. But it will happen. Batteries will get more efficient, solar roofs will become the norm, greenies will realize nuclear solves a lot of problems, and fusion reactors may even come on line in a few decades. In the meantime, the world still runs on diesel and that fact needs to be acknowledged. 

Concur.  I'm not against the movement towards renewable energy sources, but the way the current administration feels it needs to force it down everyone's throats during their hopefully one-and-done tenure is not the solution!   The US was moving in the right direction and at the right pace, but damning those who still use fossil fuels will result in a resentment that will hurt the Dems come election time, and rightfully so.

Sorry, but the part you support is famous for good idea fairies that fail during implementation...because they don't know how to moderate themselves.  The attitude they are smarter than anyone is laughable, and despite Trump acting the same way at least he had the wherewithal to do things that actually helped the economy and people.

Trust me, Trump was the last person I wanted to vote for on the Republican ticket; but these past 18 months have proven despite what a giant ass he was, he did more for your average American instead of focusing on those who cannot determine what gender they are! 

[FLEA]

4 hours ago, Prozac said:

Honestly don’t know all that much about DeSantis and running Florida certainly isn’t the same as running the country. I wouldn’t commit to making that call until I see his presidential platform IF he runs. I’m willing to listen with an open mind though. 

Ive never understood this sentiment. You are essentially posting the millennial job paradox. 

LF: Experienced leader to be President of US. Must have 10 years experience running countries. 

Who are you going to find like that? A state is literally the next lowest executive echelon in the US. Like if you want someone with public service executive experience, a governor is literally your most qualified candidate. 

[ClearedHot]

On 6/12/2022 at 8:33 AM, Negatory said:

How much of gas prices are due to domestic economic policies dictated by the executive branch? Is the US President causing gas to be $6-9 across Europe as well? Oh wait this is global? That’s not good for my narrative or funny gas pump stickers. Or is there a potential that a war in Ukraine + restarting a global economy after a massive overreaction due to COVID + a literal cartel (OPEC) have a lot more to do with energy prices? Also, reminder that there are a surplus of drilling permits (about 10 years worth) available by the federal gov that are unused. What’s the policy you think that would solve this?

I am sorry but you are straight up regurgitating the DNC talking points that spew out of the White House..."Putin Price Hike"...Come on Man.

Of course it is global...and what we do at home impacts global supply.  When Biden declared war on the U.S. energy industry and surrendered energy our independence he EARNED that sticker.  Yes restarting the world economy and a war in Ukraine impact supply and demand but much of the increase happened before Putin went rouge and it is because we constrained our U.S. supply.   We are now begging Venezuela, Saudi and Iran to produce more oil as if somehow that doesn't emit carbon like U.S. based oil does...Come on man!

Please STOP referencing the 9,000 unused leased without giving the rest of the story.  Does the energy industry have 9,000 leases to drill on government owned land, absolutely...does the government drag their feet, fight in court and block those leases at every turn...YES.  The average time to get through the regulatory process is 10 YEARS.  Then they fight all mechanisms to move and process the oil  (pipelines and refineries).  

The oil market is not just a supply and demand curve, perception has a large influence.  Would approving Keystone increase the supply of oil tomorrow, nope...but the price of oil would immediately fall on perception.

This entire situation is purposeful - Biden said, “I want you to look at my eyes. I guarantee you. I guarantee you. We’re going to end fossil fuel.”

A lofty goal and something but a realistic timeline that doesn't destroy our economy would be a far better approach.  Sadly, Biden doesn't comprehend how oil impacts every segment of our economy.  This situation is going to get a LOT worse.

[Prozac]

4 hours ago, FLEA said:

Ive never understood this sentiment. You are essentially posting the millennial job paradox. 

LF: Experienced leader to be President of US. Must have 10 years experience running countries. 

Who are you going to find like that? A state is literally the next lowest executive echelon in the US. Like if you want someone with public service executive experience, a governor is literally your most qualified candidate. 

How’d you get that from my post? I never said I don’t think he’s qualified. My point was that he’s not running for president (yet) and he hasn’t articulated how he would act should he become president. Until he does, I’ll reserve judgement. 

[ecugringo]

 there is so much revenue to be create from O&G that can better our country as far as infrastructure, education and other programs that could really help those in need, I dont know why we want to race away from that sector.  The US is in a position to be the global energy export leader.  

When you factor all the jobs involved in Exploration and production (Drilling), Midstream (Transportation) and Downstream (Refining and delivery), ppl only think of hte big players like Exxon and Chevron but there are thousands of other businesses all involved in the process.  Maintenance, Integrity, Installation, there are hundreds of thousands employed.  Planting a bunch of wind farms wont create the jobs claimed.  I also challenge proponents of wind to drive through WY on any given day and notice all the turbines that are idle due to wind loads.  Turbines need wind but too much and they break.

IMO our energy policy should be to be an Energy leader while supporting R&D to develop new technologies that can be more efficient.

[brabus]

2 hours ago, ecugringo said:

Turbines need wind but too much and they break.

Now it all make sense - drove across the country a while  ago, multiple days of it being windy as shit and tons of turbines not turning. The failure of current “green energy” on full display. 
 

Concur with others though, I fully support energy advancement, but let’s do it on a realistic timeline and not rush it, which in turn ends in failure with the bonus of destroying our economy and crushing the middle and lower class. 

[HeloDude]

8 minutes ago, brabus said:

Now it all make sense - drove across the country a while  ago, multiple days of it being windy as shit and tons of turbines not turning. The failure of current “green energy” on full display. 
 

Concur with others though, I fully support energy advancement, but let’s do it on a realistic timeline and not rush it, which in turn ends in failure with the bonus of destroying our economy and crushing the middle and lower class. 

Sadly it’s all political.  The left over the years have been on record for saying how bad they think fossil fuels are, how they want them to go away…even if it costs the average American citizen more money.  Biden signs EOs to make it harder/more expensive to harness the energy of fossil fuels, he has advisors who are openly against fossil fuels, and the Dems have not produced any legislation that reduces regulations on fossil fuels.

But the rising gas prices are now the fault of…wait for it…Putin’s war in Ukraine and those evil greedy oil executives.

Biden doesn’t deserve 100% of the blame for the rising costs, but he does deserve 100% for not trying to lower the costs.

[ecugringo]

1 hour ago, HeloDude said:

Sadly it’s all political.  The left over the years have been on record for saying how bad they think fossil fuels are, how they want them to go away…even if it costs the average American citizen more money.  Biden signs EOs to make it harder/more expensive to harness the energy of fossil fuels, he has advisors who are openly against fossil fuels, and the Dems have not produced any legislation that reduces regulations on fossil fuels.

But the rising gas prices are now the fault of…wait for it…Putin’s war in Ukraine and those evil greedy oil executives.

Biden doesn’t deserve 100% of the blame for the rising costs, but he does deserve 100% for not trying to lower the costs.

The other interesting point is the Crack Spread.  This is the ratio of what companies purchase crude at vs selling a finished product.  The higher the spread the greater the profit.  Right now with Oil at $120/bbl and Fuel at $5sh.....It's actually not good margins for producers.  Now when the storage tanks were full at $40-$60/bbl and Fuel started increasing, they made stupid money.  Not saying they aren't now but its not what you would think.  When Crude gets too low they tighten the valve and layoffs happen.

Since Putin has state run oil companies as well as many OPEC players....They really aren't interested in reducing the price of crude.

2 of hte top 10 companies in the S&P now are Marathon and Valero.  Not Salesforce or Facebook/META bs.  My bet is their strategy is to maximize profits and shareholder revenue today and hold cash.  If there is a red wave this fall I think they will invest in infrastructure and you might see more crude hit the market.  But if Dems hold ground, these companies will further retreat and not invest in future aquisitions.

[HeloDude]

And when there’s no one else to blame, and your party runs both the House and the Senate, then blame the GOP lol…it’s not going well for old Joe.

“Biden Blames Republicans in Congress for Soaring Inflation”

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-blames-republicans-in-congress-for-soaring-inflation/?fbclid=IwAR1Y_5GZV8YiTGjtv8AJqvtjZcML3UBQNSppsFBR5NxaC-Bhy-bwpSKMIDA

[Waingro]

10 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

I am sorry but you are straight up regurgitating the DNC talking points that spew out of the White House..."Putin Price Hike"...Come on Man.

You make a good argument, but it's also comical that you call someone out for "regurgitating talking points" when you plagiarized the American Petroleum Institute's website, bullet point by bullet point, without attributing a word of it as anyone's other than your own.

[GrndPndr]

5 hours ago, Waingro said:

You make a good argument, but it's also comical that you call someone out for "regurgitating talking points" when you plagiarized the American Petroleum Institute's website, bullet point by bullet point, without attributing a word of it as anyone's other than your own.

I agree, there should be footnotes or something.

[ecugringo]

We now have the President telling companies what an acceptable profit margin is.

 

Biden tells oil companies in letter 'well above normal' refinery profit margins are 'not acceptable' (cnbc.com)

[HeloDude]

4 minutes ago, ecugringo said:

We now have the President telling companies what an acceptable profit margin is.

 

Biden tells oil companies in letter 'well above normal' refinery profit margins are 'not acceptable' (cnbc.com)

Biden’s “climate czar” John Kerry said we absolutely do not need more oil drilling.  This is the message of the left…

If the GOP was smart (they often aren’t), they would run ads of a few soundbites of Biden/his administration and Dem politicians saying how they’re against oil, more oil exploitation, etc and then show the price of gas.

[dream big]

19 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

Biden’s “climate czar” John Kerry said we absolutely do not need more oil drilling.  This is the message of the left…

If the GOP was smart (they often aren’t), they would run ads of a few soundbites of Biden/his administration and Dem politicians saying how they’re against oil, more oil exploitation, etc and then show the price of gas.

Wise strategy in lieu of the Hunter Biden stories; while true and investigation worthy- doesn’t meet the appeal threshold of the public, specifically those on the fence.  GOP needs to start playing the dem campaign games.