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[Danger41]

To me (non-party affiliated voter), the biggest takeaway is that candidate quality matters. Pennsylvania senate race between Oz and Fetterman should've been the easiest win ever based on Fetterman and his stroke + debate performance. Or juxtaposing the Georgia senate race with the state governor race. How the hell does Herschel Walker end up as the nominee when he was very clearly not qualified for the job. At the same time, Brian Kemp (who Trump hates) beats Democratic super candidate (ref CH post above) by a significant margin.

It's that the makes me think Desantis will absolutely roll in 2024 unless Trump pulls a Ross Perot and siphons off significant votes from the Republican candidate. Please don't interpret that I'm equating Ross Perot and Donald Trump on a personal level. Purely a corollary to splitting the GOP vote. 

[NKAWTG]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

2.  The DNC has spent over $100M on Stacy Adams on two elections, both of which she lost.  During her most recent campaign she was raising (and spending), funds at a rate of 3:1 on Kemp, and she still lost. 

 

Stacey Abrams was never a serious candidate.  More akin to the Maxine Waters type who takes the campaign money and funnels it to friends and family.  She herself has gotten very wealthy for accomplishing little in life. 

Pennsylvania is what astounds me.  They elected a brain damaged candidate to the US Senate, and in their statehouse, elected a candidate who died a month ago.  Is it shadiness or stupidity?  I'm not sure I'm comfortable with either answer.         

[herkbum]

Stacey Abrams was never a serious candidate.  More akin to the Maxine Waters type who takes the campaign money and funnels it to friends and family.  She herself has gotten very wealthy for accomplishing little in life. 
Pennsylvania is what astounds me.  They elected a brain damaged candidate to the US Senate, and in their statehouse, elected a candidate who died a month ago.  Is it shadiness or stupidity?  I'm not sure I'm comfortable with either answer.         

According to my wife, it’s shadiness. She used to be involved with PA politics and she said it’s shady.


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[nsplayr]

Cheers to all my Republican/conservative friends 🍺 

The House is still too close to call but either side will have an extremely slim majority. The Senate will either be +1 to the Dems or decided in another December GA runoff.

Glad to see some of my favorite elected leaders & ballot issues have good nights (Polis in CO, Spanberger in VA, weed legalization in MO and MD, Medicaid expansion in SD.) I'm glad voting seemed to have gone smoothly and at least so far I don't see anyone throwing a fit about the results.

Overall it was a very strong performance at a midterm for a party with trifecta control of DC, the norm would have been to lose ~30 House seats and a handful of Senate seats. It may end up being -4 in the House while maintaining control and +1 in the Senate, which is batting well, well above that historical average.

Hopefully the GOP will put some more thought into blindly following Trump endorsements re: candidate quality. I want to see better candidates from both parties!

On the plus side for the GOP, y'all may yet still get one or both chambers when all the results are finalized, the 2024 Senate map is brutal for Dems, and Biden's age will be a factor even more so than 2020 for his potential reelection.

Better luck next time!

[bfargin]

If it were only libs we’d be OK. With the numerous leftist serving and miraculously re-elected, it’s not looking good for the nation. I’m not sure we can survive intact with too many years of Build back Better

[Sua Sponte]

3 hours ago, NKAWTG said:

Stacey Abrams was never a serious candidate.  More akin to the Maxine Waters type who takes the campaign money and funnels it to friends and family.  She herself has gotten very wealthy for accomplishing little in life. 

Pennsylvania is what astounds me.  They elected a brain damaged candidate to the US Senate, and in their statehouse, elected a candidate who died a month ago.  Is it shadiness or stupidity?  I'm not sure I'm comfortable with either answer.       

It is in the GOP’s best interest that the DNC keeps funneling money to Abrams to run. She’s far too dangerous as a non-candidate to them getting people who don’t normally vote to vote. Watch was she does with the upcoming runoff on 12/6.

Iowa re-elected a dinosaur in Grassley. There is no reason why anyone in their 70s+ should be in in the Executive or Legislative Branch.

[Sua Sponte]

Colorado showed up and said eating shrooms is cool, but not selling liquor in grocery stores.

[uhhello]

1 hour ago, bfargin said:

If it were only libs we’d be OK. With the numerous leftist serving and miraculously re-elected, it’s not looking good for the nation. I’m not sure we can survive intact with too many years of Build back Better

To be fair, Majorie T Greene was re-elected by a giant majority......

[uhhello]

4 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said:

Colorado showed up and said eating shrooms is cool, but not selling liquor in grocery stores.

California shot down sports gambling.  

[Danger41]

5 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said:

Colorado showed up and said eating shrooms is cool, but not selling liquor in grocery stores.

I live in Denver and loved the petitions for the booze in grocery stores thing. A bunch of old retired white dudes that looked absolutely hammered in the middle of the afternoon on a Tuesday. Naturally I signed and voted for it.

[Sua Sponte]

33 minutes ago, Danger41 said:

I live in Denver and loved the petitions for the booze in grocery stores thing. A bunch of old retired white dudes that looked absolutely hammered in the middle of the afternoon on a Tuesday. Naturally I signed and voted for it.

I’m in Parker. I voted for it too since, to me, it made sense since they already sold beer in grocery stores.

[Sua Sponte]

38 minutes ago, uhhello said:

California shot down sports gambling.  

Which is wild since it generates a lot of revenue for the states it’s legal in. Colorado also passed to lower the state income tax rate. 

[uhhello]

16 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said:

Which is wild since it generates a lot of revenue for the states it’s legal in. Colorado also passed to lower the state income tax rate. 

Yeah I don't get it.  

[ecugringo]

4 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

Colorado showed up and said eating shrooms is cool, but not selling liquor in grocery stores.

Was that just for Denver?  I know for fact you can get liquor in King Soopers in Arvada.

Dont miss CO and it's politics.  

[ecugringo]

9 hours ago, Danger41 said:

To me (non-party affiliated voter), the biggest takeaway is that candidate quality matters. Pennsylvania senate race between Oz and Fetterman should've been the easiest win ever based on Fetterman and his stroke + debate performance. Or juxtaposing the Georgia senate race with the state governor race. How the hell does Herschel Walker end up as the nominee when he was very clearly not qualified for the job. At the same time, Brian Kemp (who Trump hates) beats Democratic super candidate (ref CH post above) by a significant margin.

It's that the makes me think Desantis will absolutely roll in 2024 unless Trump pulls a Ross Perot and siphons off significant votes from the Republican candidate. Please don't interpret that I'm equating Ross Perot and Donald Trump on a personal level. Purely a corollary to splitting the GOP vote. 

Oz wasnt a great candidate though.  Hes not from PA or lives in PA and a Trump candidate I believe.

That said...I really dont know what the appeal of Fetterman was.  He has lived off his parents his whole life, never had a real job.  Was mayor of a dump and still a dump, hes basically pro 2nd degree murder, hes huge on Teachers unions but sends his kids to the most $$$ private school in Pittsburgh.  Throw in the stroke and its really mind boggling he won.  When I saw that race still close I knew the red wave was just a myth.

[brabus]

18 minutes ago, ecugringo said:

has lived off his parents his whole life, never had a real job

Sounds like he’s perfectly qualified to be an American politician. 

[Sua Sponte]

1 hour ago, ecugringo said:

Was that just for Denver?  I know for fact you can get liquor in King Soopers in Arvada.

Dont miss CO and it's politics.  

https://coloradosun.com/2022/11/08/alcohol-delivery-wine-grocery-stores-prop-125/

I guess it was wine.

[skybert]

8 hours ago, ecugringo said:

Oz wasnt a great candidate though.  Hes not from PA or lives in PA and a Trump candidate I believe.

That said...I really dont know what the appeal of Fetterman was.  He has lived off his parents his whole life, never had a real job.  Was mayor of a dump and still a dump, hes basically pro 2nd degree murder, hes huge on Teachers unions but sends his kids to the most $$$ private school in Pittsburgh.  Throw in the stroke and its really mind boggling he won.  When I saw that race still close I knew the red wave was just a myth.

That’s the democrats ideal  candidate right there

[uhhello]

Arizona is a god damn dumpster fire of an election system. 

[Lawman]

Arizona is a god damn dumpster fire of an election system. 

It’s funny that everybody talks all this smack about Florida, but after it totally bolo’s 2000 they UN-ed their system and it’s probably one of the best in the country now.


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[Blue]

18 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

A few interesting stats:

1.  The DNC has spent over $200M on Beto on three separate elections, $100M on last night's election alone, he has lost every attempt.

2.  The DNC has spent over $100M on Stacy Adams on two elections, both of which she lost.  During her most recent campaign she was raising (and spending), funds at a rate of 3:1 on Kemp, and she still lost. 

Do you think either one of these extremists will get the message?

Perhaps I've seen too many episodes of Ozark.  But, when you look at the DNC spending those kinds of figures, on those kinds of candidates, you start to wonder if they're really supporting candidates they feel have a viable chance of success?  Or is it all just some kind of elaborate money laundering scheme?

 

[Biff_T]

21 minutes ago, Blue said:

Perhaps I've seen too many episodes of Ozark.  But, when you look at the DNC spending those kinds of figures, on those kinds of candidates, you start to wonder if they're really supporting candidates they feel have a viable chance of success?  Or is it all just some kind of elaborate money laundering scheme?

 

I'm not sure to laugh or send a tip to the FBI.  Lol

[uhhello]

290,000 early ballots yet to be counted in Maricopa county.  Those ballots need eyes on signature comparisons.  I have heard from a lot of folks online that have received phone calls attempting to verify their ballots due to the signatures not matching.  How fucking archaic can we get.  Reminds me of my time in England attempting to get a new cell phone.  store had to fax in a copy of my passport and what not to big store.  big store kept kicking back the application because the signature in passport and the application didn't "match".  I tried duplicating my signature a few times and resorted to one of the store employees finally nailing a copy of mine and the big store accepted it :)  

[ViperMan]

All the Rs are lamenting the midterms. But for me, there's plenty of silver lining:

I'll take Roe v Wade.

I'll take the death of collegiate Affirmative Action.

I'll take Biden and Harris having to run on the dem ticket again.

I'll take Florida.

I'll take the House flipping (pending).

I'll take more government gridlock.

I'll take the repudiation of Trumpism - it needs to die.

I'll take all of that 10 times out of 10 for the republican's coming up short other day. It's a perfectly fine trade to me. You can't win everything.

[ClearedHot]

Say something negative about Biden and the President will launch the National Security apparatus on you.