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[Boomer6]

Copy you read what he wrote. Are you deliberately disregarding the part where the DC FBI contains those responsible and that the DC FBI is in fact not the entire FBI? 

I’m all for cleaning house, but tearing down an organization because the leaders were playing politics doesn’t make sense (and yes I understand the implication of the report). Should we have abolished the executive branch or the constitution because Nixon was involved in Watergate? 
 

Whether the DOJ or the FBI can clean house, or someone outside these agencies with the authority to do so, is not what I’m arguing. There are thousands of ppl who work for the FBI, and though it can’t be proven or disproven via an internet forum, I don’t believe any significant percentage of them are partisan hacks out to give our country to the libs. They do an immense amount of valuable work and we can’t just say, “You’re fired” without extreme repercussions.

Edited May 16, 2023 by Boomer6

[uhhello]

How exactly do we go about "tearing down the FBI"?  What does that entail.  What replaces it?  Who makes up this new entity?

[Lord Ratner]

35 minutes ago, uhhello said:

How exactly do we go about "tearing down the FBI"?  What does that entail.  What replaces it?  Who makes up this new entity?

Is there any state without cops? How did it work before? Literally any answer will work, it's not the the FBI was the "right answer." It was just *an* answer.

[ClearedHot]

I would not advocate for tearing down the entirety of the FBI but we certainly need to clean house on some corrupt leadership.  My guess is the VAST majority of the FBI is comprised of great Americans trying to serve their country with pride and integrity.  I've served, deployed and fought with many of them and would do so again today.  Unfortunately, like any organization, there are few bad apples that have such severe hatred for one side of the political aisle, they will willingly cross legal and ethical lines in order to protect one party and ultimately influence an election (or two).  The corruption seems centered at a few leadership levels and is empowered by similar thinking and corrupt people at the DOJ, that is the part of the system that needs to be purged.  

This rot goes far beyond the leadership of the FBI - The New York Post is reporting that an IRS Whistleblower has told Congress that at the the IRS has removed the "entire investigative team" from its multi-year tax fraud investigation of Hunter Biden and is claiming the move was "clearly retaliatory," according to a Monday report.

"He was informed the change was at the request of the Department of Justice," according to attorneys Mark Lytle and Tristan Leavitt.

Break Break...

IMHO the most striking information to come out of the Durham report is that fact that Biden AND Obama were briefed on Hillary and that fact that the dossier was indeed fake.  In other words, the system knew in 2016 but they pressed forward as if it was real for political gain.

[TreeA10]

130,000 federal employees make more than the highest paid governor in the U.S. They don’t like being called swamp dwellers and will do whatever it takes to defend their swampy turf and paycheck because they know other swamp dwellers will not hold them accountable.

[uhhello]

10 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Is there any state without cops? How did it work before? Literally any answer will work, it's not the the FBI was the "right answer." It was just *an* answer.

Yeah, I get it.  So we're just changing names?  

[Lord Ratner]

4 minutes ago, uhhello said:

Yeah, I get it.  So we're just changing names?  

Does it have to centralized at the federal level? Have the same jurisdictions? Authorities? Sure you can boil everything down to "law enforcement" and then say you're just changing names, but by that logic the US is just another government with a different name.

 

The structure matters in protecting against abuse.

[BashiChuni]

The US security state has grown out of control. Well beyond any constitutional boundaries. 

[McJay Pilot]

On 5/15/2023 at 6:49 PM, Boomer6 said:

…your first thought is to go General Jack D. Ripper?

Did you say “Wing Attack Plan R”?

[Sim]

[BashiChuni]

Ufb. I’m sureeeeee someone will be held accountable/s

[herkbum]

Ufb. I’m sureeeeee someone will be held accountable/s

The hits keep coming with this administration. Have they done anything honest?!


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[pawnman]

I mean, it's not like we've had stellar accounting from the Pentagon at any point in the last 20 years, and probably since the Reagan Era. 

[Guardian]

So that makes it ok? Or am I reading too much into your comment?

[pawnman]

3 hours ago, Guardian said:

So that makes it ok? Or am I reading too much into your comment?

I don't think it's ok. My point is that it's not limited to this administration. It isn't a GOP vs Dem thing... it's a giant bureaucracy that thrives on getting money from congress for perceived threats, with very little oversight on how the money is actually spent. 

Edited May 19, 2023 by pawnman

[herkbum]

I dint think it's ok. My point is that it's not limited to this administration. It isn't a GOP vs Dem thing... it's a giant bureaucracy that thrives on getting money from congress for perceived threats, with very little oversight on how the money is actually spent. 

But add this to the other things the buffoons currently in charge and then it paints a very obvious picture to me. They are incompetent.


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[Biff_T]

America, where we elect the same people and expect different results. Biden has been in politics since Nam.  Explain this to the people and they sling shit on me, kinda like a zoo full of monkeys.  

[ClearedHot]

[ClearedHot]

God help us...

Oh and look at CQ, his wife and other senior GOs laughing.

 

[McJay Pilot]

“Aight… imma head out”

 

[disgruntledemployee]

That was funny, but also probably a good move too.  Even funnier, he tripped over his teleprompter.

[Swizzle]

37 minutes ago, McJay Pilot said:

“Aight… imma head out”

 

Literally stage left, didn't see that; but saw the laughing Generals

Wondered immediately if it was his own foot or the sandbag. Wished for a full viewpoint as that would be a difference 

Edited June 1, 2023 by Swizzle

[CaptainMorgan]

God help us...
Oh and look at CQ, his wife and other senior GOs laughing.
 

He probably ate too much of that Mitch’s Mountain


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[brabus]

If he wasn’t the politician he is, he’d be in a home, probably nearing hospice. Its insane people have propped that guy up to be the President. Its absolutely humiliating, for him and the country at large. 

[GrndPndr]

8 hours ago, brabus said:

If he wasn’t the politician he is, he’d be in a home, probably nearing hospice. Its insane people have propped that guy up to be the President. Its absolutely humiliating, for him and the country at large. 

Yes, his lack of SA is pretty frightening.  I've worked with the elderly before, and the first thing they do in a situation like this is blame something else on their incident - this is exactly what he did.  Watch the way he walks, he doesn't scan at all.  When he started out as POTUS, I thought this kind of thing was funny, but his mental state is just plain scary and sad now.