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[Day Man]

3 hours ago, gearhog said:

You randomly selected one article, pulled 5 words out of context, failed to specify where you found them, then state you assumed all medical research in the National Library of Medicine is bullshit.

 The abstract (directly from your link) is only 255 words...I can highlight the relevant parts if you're struggling.

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I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you. Just examining your method. I gotta tell ya, I'm a bit skeptical about the way you science.

likewise.

[gearhog]

39 minutes ago, Day Man said:

 The abstract (directly from your link) is only 255 words...I can highlight the relevant parts if you're struggling.

likewise.

Yes, please. I posted about 20 links to different papers. It not only helps to know which medical research paper you’re trashing, but what specifically they wrote that was incorrect based on your expertise. Thanks, bro.

Here’s another paper written by people you might deem idiots. 
 

https://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/CAMPBELL-SMITH.POLING012811.pdf

 

“Respondent conceded that petitioners are entitled to compensation based on a determination that she suffered an injury identified on the Vaccine Injury Table,3 specifically, a presumptive MMR vaccine-related injury of an encephalopathy. Hannah’s encephalopathy eventually manifested as a chronic encephalopathy with features of autism spectrum disorder and a complex partial seizure disorder as a sequela.”

$20 million.

Edited June 21, 2023 by gearhog

[Day Man]

29 minutes ago, gearhog said:

Yes, please. I posted about 20 links to different papers. It not only helps to know which medical research paper you’re trashing, but what specifically they wrote that was incorrect based on your expertise. Thanks, bro.

Here’s another paper written by people you might deem idiots. 
 

https://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/CAMPBELL-SMITH.POLING012811.pdf

bless your heart.

 

[gearhog]

6 hours ago, Day Man said:

bless your heart.

 

Thanks. So it was the last article you looked out. I never would have found it. It says 20x the dose of Thimerisol.

What is Thimerisol? It's apparently not water. A google search says Thimerisol is a mercury compound. I put it in the CDC search bar. Looks like The American Association of Pediatrics made these recommendations based on the elevated risks of Thimerisol in a paper on the CDC website. Apparently, they have removed Thimerisol from most of the childhood injections due to perceived risks, even though it's "harmless", but it is still present in the flu shot, COVID vaccine, and others.

Notice to Readers: Thimerosal in Vaccines: A Joint Statement of the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Public Health Service

The key actions being taken are

1. A formal request to manufacturers for a clear commitment and a plan to eliminate or reduce as expeditiously as possible the mercury content of their vaccines.
2. A review of pertinent data in a public workshop.
3. Expedited FDA review of manufacturers' supplements to their product license applications to eliminate or reduce the mercury content of a vaccine.
4. Provide information to clinicians and public health professionals to enable them to communicate effectively with parents and consumer groups.
5. Monitoring immunization practices, future immunization coverage, and vaccine-preventable disease levels.
6. Studies to better understand the risks and benefits of this safety assessment.

I'm finding about about this as we go. Did you know that this compound was removed from vaccines? I haven't taken any action based on the information your expertise are attempting to ridicule. You should be contacting the CDC, American Association of Pediatrics, and Big Pharma for removing an important vaccine preservative when there was no reason to. Go tell them how disappointed you are in their decision to act on this information, not me.

My kids received their doses after this decision, so they were at lower risk for an adverse reaction apparently. But they never got the flu shot or Covid shot, thankfully. I'm glad they weren't exposed to the risk, however small.

Edited June 21, 2023 by gearhog

[Lord Ratner]

20 hours ago, nsplayr said:

🤷‍♂️ I was told on good authority by Baseops, Esq. that he would not be charged and couldn’t be charged because he was being protected by The Big Guy.

I guess next time I’ll pay for my legal advice instead of relying on the Shitposter School of Law graduates we all are around here.

😅

Why is there no investigation?! (There was one since 2018)

Why are there no charges?! (Here they are)

But he’s guilty!! (He pled guilty to some of the charges and took a deal on others, which is common)

Rabble rabble rabble…nevertheless.

And yet we know you'd be here pissing into your Cheerios if Jared kushner or Don Jr had been charged with a crime in such a way to ensure that they never face any consequences for it. 

 

I'm not trying to say that you are unique from the people here who defend Donald Trump ceaselessly, I'm saying you're exactly the same.

[nsplayr]

9 hours ago, gearhog said:

Wait a sec.

Because asking questions to people with legitimately expert knowledge is absolutely ok, in fact more people should do this! I basically asked hey, I’m almost certain there’s no truth to this but what do you think? And they said no, there is no truth to this.

I explicitly told you to ask your own doctor your medical question about vaccines and autism rather than blindly believe dickheads like me here on the internet. I even provided you with about five doctors you could ask who I personally know and who are experts in the condition.

What’s different is the “just asking questions” guy online or in the media, who is either knowingly or unwittingly spreading doubt and misinformation.

So if you for some reason are getting ready to launch to the moon on a rocket as pax and you happen to have doubts about the moon landing and you ask someone at NASA…ok great! Due diligence. If it’s all one big government conspiracy and now I have to participate, I’d like to be let inside the circle.

But “hey everyone @FakeMoonLanding265 here, look at these 35 new links I just found!” that’s not the same thing. That’s “just asking questions” vs actually asking real questions to people who would know the answers.

And yes, I did have an extra dose of piss and vinegar in my Cheerios yesterday, glad you enjoyed it.

Edited June 21, 2023 by nsplayr

[nsplayr]

32 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:

And yet we know you'd be here pissing into your Cheerios if Jared kushner or Don Jr had been charged with a crime in such a way to ensure that they never face any consequences for it. 

 

I'm not trying to say that you are unique from the people here who defend Donald Trump ceaselessly, I'm saying you're exactly the same.

If Beavis and Butthead did crimes and were charged with crimes and pled guilty I would be happy with that, don’t overthink this.

[gearhog]

2 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

Because asking questions to people with legitimately expert knowledge is absolutely ok, in fact more people should do this! I basically asked hey, I’m almost certain there’s no truth to this but what do you think? And they said no, there is no truth to this.

What’s different is the “just asking questions” guy online or in the media, who is either knowingly or unwittingly spreading doubt and misinformation.

So if you for some reason are getting ready to launch to the moon on a rocket as pax and you happen to have doubts about the moon landing and you ask someone at NASA…ok great! Due diligence.

But “hey everyone @FakeMoonLanding265 here, look at these 35 new links I just found!” that’s not the same thing. That’s “just asking questions” vs actually asking real questions to people who would know the answers.

And yes, I did have an extra dose of piss and vinegar in my Cheerios yesterday, glad you enjoyed it.

You're changing your story to fit your narrative. First you were asking your Docs if you should change your child's vaccine schedule to combat autism, now you say you had told the docs that you were "almost" certain there was no truth to this prior to asking the question, but you asked anyway. ...Things that didn't happen for $1000, Alex.

I want to ask this as delicately as possible and I do not intend any offense whatsoever. But you made reference to a possibility that your second child may be diagnosed with autism, after you triumphantly state that you and your doctors agreed to make no changes after your first child. Again, that's a troubling situation and I have compassion for you and your family, but it doesn't give much credence to your position.

Brother, no one is talking about the moon landing. It's just an obvious and old red herring debate tactic: Dunk on an easy issue to make it seem like you've dunked on a more complex issue by making a specious association.

 

[Biff_T]

13 hours ago, Pooter said:

Correction: standard two-tier justice system **for rich and connected people of all political persuasions** in action. 

This 

Edit: Cough, cough....Epstein's Lolita Express.  The Bills (not from Buffalo but Clinton and Gates), Trump, Prince Andrew and all of the others who hungout with that POS.   They banged kids and there is enough evidence regarding this to send all of us common folk to San Quentin to be recipients of non consensual butt love for years,  yet they are still free.  Policitcs aside, the rich and powerful live with a different justice system.  We should be fighting them intsead of each other.  

Edited June 21, 2023 by Biff_T
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[nsplayr]

50 minutes ago, gearhog said:

You're changing your story to fit your narrative. First you were asking your Docs if you should change your child's vaccine schedule to combat autism, now you say you had told the docs that you were "almost" certain there was no truth to this prior to asking the question, but you asked anyway. ...Things that didn't happen for $1000, Alex.

I clarified what I said. And you're right, I did not ask this question to all five providers, just the first one. Because when you're dealing with something new and very challenging, and you get the opportunity to ask an expert, it's absolutely ok to ask questions even if you already think you know the answers.

Shit, if crystal therapy would help my kid I would do it! I know it's BS but ya know what, you be that desperate parent hoping to help your kid and see what you're willing to try or ask about. I can report back that the consensus position of the medical experts is that crystal therapy also doesn't work, in case you were planning on "just asking questions" about crystals also.

But importantly what I didn't do is "just ask those questions" on some pilot forum or a big-name podcast because that doesn't actually help anyone, it muddies the waters on an issue that is clear. And to loop back to the original point, RFKJ is a f-ing moron because he does believe that vaccines cause autism, when in fact they do not, and he advocates that people not receive scheduled vaccines, which in fact hurts people rather than helps them.

50 minutes ago, gearhog said:

I want to ask this as delicately as possible and I do not intend any offense whatsoever. But you made reference to a possibility that your second child may be diagnosed with autism, after you triumphantly state that you and your doctors agreed to make no changes after your first child. Again, that's a troubling situation and I have compassion for you and your family, but it doesn't give much credence to your position.

You more aggressively screen subsequent children who have an older sibling with autism because autism's primary cause is genetics! Also many of the environmental factors that likely play a role happened in-utero, which has also already happened. I guess I'm not understanding your question here if you are asking one. No changes need to be made to recommended vaccine schedules, even for babies who have older siblings with autism, again, because vaccines do not cause autism.

50 minutes ago, gearhog said:

Brother, no one is talking about the moon landing. It's just an obvious and old red herring debate tactic: Dunk on an easy issue to make it seem like you've dunked on a more complex issue by making a specious association.

I keep mentioning the moon landing because it's another common conspiracy with no basis in truth, just like the idea that vaccines cause autism. The evidence for faking the moon landing is about as strong as the evidence that vaccines cause autism, which is to say not strong!

Edited June 21, 2023 by nsplayr

[gearhog]

3 hours ago, nsplayr said:

I clarified what I said. And you're right, I did not ask this question to all five providers, just the first one.

Oh, so it gets better. You achieved a scientific consensus by asking one of the doctors you referenced one question. Why do you keep digging this hole? Pro tip: before you hit the submit button, reread your post from the perspective of someone who may be critical of it. It might save you some backpedaling.

3 hours ago, nsplayr said:

Shit, if crystal therapy would help my kid I would do it! I know it's BS but ya know what, you be that desperate parent hoping to help your kid and see what you're willing to try or ask about. I can report back that the consensus position of the medical experts is that crystal therapy also doesn't work, in case you were planning on "just asking questions" about crystals also.

Again with the red herring. Try a different tactic. You keep trying new metaphors that are easy to argue against instead of simply arguing the issue at hand. I think you've injected moon landings, crystals, aliens, election fraud, flat earth in just the last few posts. No one other than you has mentioned any of those things. It's obvious why: you're not entirely comfortable with your position on the autism issue, so you're attempting to reinforce it with irrelevant BS.

3 hours ago, nsplayr said:

But importantly what I didn't do is "just ask those questions" on some pilot forum or a big-name podcast because that doesn't actually help anyone, it muddies the waters on an issue that is clear. And to loop back to the original point, RFKJ is a f-ing moron because he does believe that vaccines cause autism, when in fact they do not, and he advocates that people not receive scheduled vaccines, which in fact hurts people rather than helps them.

So what are your personal set of rules as to what questions we can ask, where we can ask them, and who we can ask them to? Would you like to see people restricted from exploring these ideas unless they meet your specific guidelines? Help me out here, there's a word for that and I can't think of it.

(Note to self, insert ad hominem attack here.)

"Not receiving scheduled vaccines hurts people rather than helps them." That's an overly broad generalization. Maybe not all vaccines are bad, perhaps not all are good. Again, color me skeptical. My family and I didn't receive the last scheduled vaccine and we seem to have made out better than many who did.

3 hours ago, nsplayr said:

You more aggressively screen subsequent children who have an older sibling with autism because autism's primary cause is genetics! Also many of the environmental factors that likely play a role happened in-utero, which has also already happened. I guess I'm not understanding your question here if you are asking one. No changes need to be made to recommended vaccine schedules, even for babies who have older siblings with autism, again, because vaccines do not cause autism.

I keep mentioning the moon landing because it's another common conspiracy with no basis in truth, just like the idea that vaccines cause autism. The evidence for faking the moon landing is about as strong as the evidence that vaccines cause autism, which is to say not strong!

If you were so sure, why did you ask your doctor? You received a single opinion and you suddenly believe it's an immutable law of physics beyond reproach because she got a diploma in medicine from Phoenix University. I gave you a couple dozen links to medical research and I can give you a couple dozen more, but you're dismissing them, without reading them, all because you talked to one doc?

Bear in mind, the conversation you claim to have had with one doctor is the ONLY substantive basis you've provided for your opinion. Sorry, my friend, it just doesn't make much sense. I'm not saying none exist. I'm saying you either don't know they exist, or are too lazy to cite them.

 

[ClearedHot]

4 hours ago, nsplayr said:

If Beavis and Butthead did crimes and were charged with crimes and pled guilty I would be happy with that, don’t overthink this.

I really don't know how you post this with a straight face, have you even looked at the facts.  You made comments about the Trump appointed judge...that is NO the point.  The vast majority of judges agree with plea deals and this likely will as well.  This is about the DOJ who is violating their own rule sets and CLEARLY administering a two-tiered system if justice to protect a crackhead son of Biden.  For 20 years DOJ has been operating off precedent called the Ashcroft Rule which provides very clear prosecution guidelines:

First, it requires federal prosecutors generally to pursue "the most serious readily provable chargeable offense."   Let me help you, that would be the FELONY gun charge Crackhead is going to avoid by pleading guilty to a misdemeanor.  And in case you think they had room to maneuver and plead down...the rule goes on to say having pursued "the most serious readily provable offense" in accordance with the first part of the policy -- generally cannot drop down to more modest charges in order to secure a guilty plea. Rather, they must compel the defendant to either plead guilty to the most serious readily provable offense, or face trial.  

Look no further than Rapper Kodak Black who was just sentenced to 46 months in prison for the same crime that Biden’s son has been charged with.  Bradford Cohen, Black’s Florida-based attorney who has handled many cases like this, decried “After 26 years, I have yet to have a plea in a case with an illegal possession of a weapon and tax evasion, that did not come with some kind of prison sentence. Indigents charged the same way would be getting jail time,” Cohen said.  

Even if you somehow find a way to hand-wave the felony gun charge, the two tier system is happening on the tax evasion charge as well.  Look no further than my

 Jersey Boy Mike "the situation" Sorrentino, in January of 2018, he pleaded guilty to one count of evading taxes on $123,000 in income.  He was sentenced to 8 months in federal prison.  Hunter failed to pay taxes on $1.5 MILLION, more than ten times that of Sorrentino and he is gonna walk free.

This is a complete embarrassment and that fact that Liberals are ok with it...and even defend it, is shameful.

[nsplayr]

1 hour ago, gearhog said:

Oh, so it gets better.

Ok bud, enough. I should have never brought this up on here knowing exactly how it would go. Believe whatever dumb shit you want, in fact, go on a big podcast and broadcast it to the world like RFKJ. Also good luck forgoing your vaccines! TYFYS.

[nsplayr]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

This is a complete embarrassment and that fact that Liberals are ok with it...and even defend it, is shameful.

So pull out your Republican Rolodex and hit up David Weiss and give him a piece of your mind. I am happy that any charges were brought at all, since I was told that could never happen.

If you want to go to law school, become a U.S. attorney in the next 6-9 months and magically charge Hunter Biden so that it guarantees he goes to a federal pound me in the as prison, be my guest. I don’t give a single, solitary F about that guy and I don’t think any of my fellow liberal voters do either.  

[Sua Sponte]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

Words

Don't cherry-pick references to frame a particular narrative. Here, let me help you out.

DOJ Justice Manual 9-27.000 - Principles of Federal Prosecution

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Under the federal criminal justice system, the prosecutor has wide latitude in determining when, whom, how, and even whether to prosecute for apparent violations of federal criminal law. The prosecutor's broad discretion in such areas as initiating or foregoing prosecutions, selecting or recommending specific charges, and terminating prosecutions by accepting guilty pleas has been recognized on numerous occasions by the courts.

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Ordinarily, those charges will include the most serious offense that is encompassed by the defendant’s conduct and that is likely to result in a sustainable conviction. In selecting the appropriate charges, however, prosecutors should consider whether the consequences of those charges for sentencing would yield a result that is proportional to the seriousness of the defendant’s conduct, and whether the charge achieves such purposes of the criminal law as punishment, protection of the public, specific and general deterrence, and rehabilitation. Such decisions should be informed by an individualized assessment of all the facts and circumstances of each particular case. The goal in any prosecution is a sanction that is “sufficient, but not greater than necessary,” 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a), to satisfy these considerations.

[Sua Sponte]

Kodak Black

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Cohen also said the judge took into consideration his explanations for Kapri’s prior criminal history, such as a robbery and kidnapping case.

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Kapri previously served seven months (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kodak-black-released-from-prison-after-serving-seven-months-713044/) in a Florida prison on charges of marijuana possession, child neglect, grand theft of a firearm and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. In Florida, Kapri has also been previously charged at various times with weapons possession, armed robbery, sexual assault, pro
bation violations and fleeing from officers. He also faces drug, weapons and sexual assault charges in other states.

Mike Sorrentino

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Michael Sorrentino admitted that in tax year 2011, he earned taxable income, including some that was paid in cash, and that he took certain actions to conceal some of his income to avoid paying the full amount of taxes he owed. He made cash deposits into bank accounts in amounts less than $10,000 each so that these deposits would not come to the attention of the IRS.

There's a big difference between not paying taxes versus not paying and willfully trying to conceal income to prevent paying additional taxes. 

Edited June 21, 2023 by Sua Sponte

[gearhog]

1 hour ago, nsplayr said:

Ok bud, enough. I should have never brought this up on here knowing exactly how it would go. Believe whatever dumb shit you want, in fact, go on a big podcast and broadcast it to the world like RFKJ. Also good luck forgoing your vaccines! TYFYS.

False. You had no idea how this was going to go or you would have started here. On the other hand, I knew you weren't equipped to defend your position and would throw in the towel, which is why I persisted until you did.

Something for you so ruminate on: It wasn't luck that has resulted in a very high state of well-being for myself and my family. It was questions and critical thinking. My success rate has been better than average. I hope you can one day say the same.

[nsplayr]

23 minutes ago, gearhog said:

False. You had no idea how this was going to go or you would have started here.

Nah, I kinda figured I'd try to get my point across but that in the end no one would change their minds and I probably should just bang my head against the countertop instead. I was right to have that suspicion!

I'm truly beginning to view my entire ongoing participation in the forum here as not worth it. Why am I here debating with a bunch of people I've never met, who don't respect my opinions or share my values, and don't give a f anyways? It's a great question.

Frankly I don't know what I'm getting out of talking to all you smelly assholes that I can't get by just talking in person to my squadron homies. Politics, flying, AF bitching, etc., it all gets discussed on shift and I've got plenty of years in uniform left to enjoy that back & forth.

Good luck to you, have a great life.

[gearhog]

5 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

Nah, I kinda figured I'd try to get my point across but that in the end no one would change their minds and I probably should just bang my head against the countertop instead. I was right to have that suspicion!

I'm truly beginning to view my entire ongoing participation in the forum here as not worth it. Why am I here debating with a bunch of people I've never met, who don't respect my opinions or share my values, and don't give a f anyways? It's a great question.

Frankly I don't know what I'm getting out of talking to all you smelly assholes that I can't get by just talking in person to my squadron homies. Politics, flying, AF bitching, etc., it all gets discussed on shift and I've got plenty of years in uniform left to enjoy that back & forth.

Good luck to you, have a great life.

You seem to be taking this pretty hard. It wasn't my intention to upset you to the point that you quit the forum forever.

Be that as it may, you're a full grown adult and only you are capable of deciding what you can and cannot handle. If you choose to come back, I look forward to exchanging ideas. If you go, it was a pleasure. All the best.

[CaptainMorgan]

Is the pretend pilot finally gone?


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[ClearedHot]

On 6/21/2023 at 2:46 PM, Sua Sponte said:

More defense of the Biden Family Crime Syndicate

You guys nut hug this demented idiot and his crackhead son worse than Cornpop rubbing Joe's hairy legs.

IRS agent tells House committee there was meddling with Hunter Biden case

The whistleblower, Gary Shapley, says Attorney General Merrick Garland was not telling Congress the truth when he asserted in earlier testimony that Weiss, who is based in Delaware, had the authority to charge in other jurisdictions, including California and Washington, D.C. Shapley said bringing charges in those districts is not something the U.S. attorneys there, who were appointed by President Joe Biden, would do.

Shapley told the committee that as an investigator for the IRS, he obtained messages Hunter Biden sent on the WhatsApp platform, including one that he read demanding payment from a Chinese businessman named Henry Zhao. In the message, Biden appeared to suggest that he was sitting with his father, then the former vice president, saying, "I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.

Almost every conservative on this forum has said hold Trump accountable but for some reason you guys can't do the same with the Bidens.  The constant drip is overwhelming and you don't even want to see if it is real...truly sad.

Also, how you support these two horrible humans who have denied their own blood.  Refusing Hunter's child the Biden name (maybe that is a favor), and Ole Joe even acknowledge her, ,what a horrible thing for that child.  Her Grandfather is the President of the United Sates and through no actions on her part, her family turns their back on her as if she does not even exist...truly a sick group of humans doing that to a child.

[Day Man]

you understand how fake that "screenshot" is, correct?

[Prozac]

25 minutes ago, Day Man said:

you understand how fake that "screenshot" is, correct?

Give the old man a break. He probably posted that before he took his Geritol. 

[Day Man]

10 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Give the old man a break. He probably posted that before he took his Geritol. 

[ClearedHot]

29 minutes ago, Day Man said:

you understand how fake that "screenshot" is, correct?

Absolutely it is a fake screenshot, it is a recreation and sadly for America the words are an exact quote from the transcript as reported by all your favorites:

CNN - Hunter Biden invoked dad’s name to get paid, text shows

CBS - Alleged sweeping misconduct in the Hunter Biden tax investigation, new transcripts show

Washington Post - IRS whistleblower says Justice Dept. slowed, stifled Hunter Biden case

The Whislteblower shared the transcripts and even more disturbing, the fact that Justice Department prosecutors denied requests to look into messages 

Surely, if there is even a 1% chance this is all corroborated, as an American don't you want to know the truth?  Or is the liberal grip on power that important to you?  I mean you are here, you swore an oath to the Constitution, didn't that mean  anything?  I don't want this to be true, I don't want my President and my DOJ to be corrupt but something really stinks here.  The house bent Trump over the rails for a completely fake dossier and you guys don't even want to listen to an increasing list of Whistleblowers inside the IRS and DOJ that are screaming SOMETHING IS CORRUPT!

Come on man!

13 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Give the old man a break. He probably posted that before he took his Geritol. 

Better Geritol than Koolaid.