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[lloyd christmas]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

Donald Jr looks drunk...

Donald Jr doesn’t look drunk.  It’s just an unflattering snapshot taken while he was talking.  Meanwhile, Hunter’s teeth have rotted away due to hard core drug abuse.  Good old meth mouth.  

I can’t get past the situation with this granddaughter.  The American people would love to see Joe stand up behind a podium and say that his son has another daughter and that he understands the situation isn’t ideal but that the Bidens will love her and accept her anyway.  A moment like that would go pretty damn far for him morally, politically, etc.  But nope.  They spend huge sums of money on attorneys trying to deny this child in every way possible.  It’s disgusting and it’s despicable.  
 

 

 

[ClearedHot]

2 hours ago, lloyd christmas said:

Donald Jr doesn’t look drunk.  It’s just an unflattering snapshot taken while he was talking.  Meanwhile, Hunter’s teeth have rotted away due to hard core drug abuse.  Good old meth mouth.  

I can’t get past the situation with this granddaughter.  The American people would love to see Joe stand up behind a podium and say that his son has another daughter and that he understands the situation isn’t ideal but that the Bidens will love her and accept her anyway.  A moment like that would go pretty damn far for him morally, politically, etc.  But nope.  They spend huge sums of money on attorneys trying to deny this child in every way possible.  It’s disgusting and it’s despicable.  
 

 

 

100% agree, how does this family punish a child.  Denying her existence, denying her the Biden name, telling White House Spokesman to say he only has 6 grandchildren...I would expect that from her crackhead father, but Joe who supposedly has defended his son out of "fatherly love", punishes a child and turns his back on her.  What a horrible human. 

[O Face]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

100% agree, how does this family punish a child.  Denying her existence, denying her the Biden name, telling White House Spokesman to say he only has 6 grandchildren...I would expect that from her crackhead father, but Joe who supposedly has defended his son out of "fatherly love", punishes a child and turns his back on her.  What a horrible human. 

Maybe it’s to the little girl’s advantage?  Certainly won’t have the financial assistance that foreign interests have lavished upon the family, but without the Biden name, maybe she’ll avoid growing up to be a huge sack of shit, like the rest of the clan. 

[disgruntledemployee]

2 hours ago, O Face said:

Maybe it’s to the little girl’s advantage?  Certainly won’t have the financial assistance that foreign interests have lavished upon the family, but without the Biden name, maybe she’ll avoid growing up to be a huge sack of shit, like the rest of the clan. 

Maybe she'll grow up and become the Biden family's biggest nemesis.  As defined by Brick Top, a righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.

[ViperMan]

It's absolutely abominable. Unforgivable.

The most unbelievable part is that he has to wake up everyday and decide to continue denying her existence.

Edited July 7, 2023 by ViperMan

[FourFans]

So @Prozac and @nsplayr:  What are your thoughts on how the president you voted for is addressing his family?

[gearhog]

48 minutes ago, FourFans said:

So @Prozac and @nsplayr:  What are your thoughts on how the president you voted for is addressing his family?

Equivocations and Whataboutisms, I'm certain.

[Prozac]

8 hours ago, FourFans said:

So @Prozac and @nsplayr:  What are your thoughts on how the president you voted for is addressing his family?

Giving out more homework that I’m not gonna do? 🤷‍♂️ Even if I responded, you’d attempt to bludgeon me with whatever answer I gave. No thanks. 

[gearhog]

6 hours ago, Prozac said:

Giving out more homework that I’m not gonna do? 🤷‍♂️ Even if I responded, you’d attempt to bludgeon me with whatever answer I gave. No thanks. 

Homework? It would take you 5 seconds to give the blatantly obvious answer that there is a lack of basic human decency from the family toward the child. You wouldn't be bludgeoned for it, and I think many would give you kudos for acknowledging a real moral failing instead of attempting to protect your politics.

 

[FourFans]

39 minutes ago, gearhog said:

Homework? It would take you 5 seconds to give the blatantly obvious answer that there is a lack of basic human decency from the family toward the child. You wouldn't be bludgeoned for it, and I think many would give you kudos for acknowledging a real moral failing instead of attempting to protect your politics.

Kinda what I was hoping for @Prozac.  If you haven't noticed, I'm one of the guys over here that routinely tries to toss softball questions to help you solidify the legitimacy and rationality of your positions.  That helps humanize you and helps all of us understand your arguments better.  It's a forum.  It's a place for questions, answers, and hopefully, mutual understanding.  

Edited July 8, 2023 by FourFans

[Prozac]

1 hour ago, FourFans said:

If you haven't noticed, I'm one of the guys over here that routinely tries to toss softball questions to help you solidify the legitimacy and rationality of your positions.

Awww geee. Thanks for being such a fucking humanitarian. So glad I’ve got guys like you offering to legitimize me! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[ClearedHot]

Biden family's rejection of Hunter's daughter with ex-stripper could do major psychological harm, experts say

"President Biden refuses to acknowledge his seventh grandchild's existence, consistently saying publicly that he has six grandchildren, not seven."

"Hunter, for his part, has refused to let his daughter take his last name and has gone to court to lower his child support payments to Roberts. He has reportedly never met his daughter with Roberts."

Hunter is a crackhead, what is Joe's excuse?  Unconscionable morally broken sack of shit to PUBLICLY punish a child for something she didn't do.  Deny her a name, deny her existence, and from other reports the girl is aware who her grandfather is the President of the United States, a fact that for every other grandchild would be a point of pride. 

Sick family.

[lloyd christmas]

2 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Biden family's rejection of Hunter's daughter with ex-stripper could do major psychological harm, experts say

"President Biden refuses to acknowledge his seventh grandchild's existence, consistently saying publicly that he has six grandchildren, not seven."

"Hunter, for his part, has refused to let his daughter take his last name and has gone to court to lower his child support payments to Roberts. He has reportedly never met his daughter with Roberts."

Hunter is a crackhead, what is Joe's excuse?  Unconscionable morally broken sack of shit to PUBLICLY punish a child for something she didn't do.  Deny her a name, deny her existence, and from other reports the girl is aware who her grandfather is the President of the United States, a fact that for every other grandchild would be a point of pride. 

Sick family.

Nothing, absolutely nothing is off limits for this family if they will do something like this.  It’s because of the way they are handling this that makes me convinced that they have done everything else they are accused of.  Along with the mountains of evidence of course….  

[gearhog]

4 hours ago, Prozac said:

Awww geee. Thanks for being such a fucking humanitarian. So glad I’ve got guys like you offering to legitimize me! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

You were asked a simple direct question with an easy answer, and this is how you dodge it? At least your open contempt for humanitarianism conveys how you likely feel about a family failing to legitimize a little girl's inclusion in it.

[nsplayr]

9 hours ago, FourFans said:

That helps humanize you and helps all of us understand your arguments better.  It's a forum.  It's a place for questions, answers, and hopefully, mutual understanding.  

Very few here ever give anything valuable back in terms of debate. It’s frankly not worth it anymore for me.

If fellow military aviators (who happen to be liberal) aren’t sufficiently “humanized” for you, nothing I can say here will help.

I have a great mutual understanding with all the conservatives I know in real life - some friends, some family, some squadron homies. I do enjoy debating & talking with those people, have learned some good stuff, and have changed some previously held views over time. Same with friends who are fellow liberals and people everywhere in between.

I can’t say the same overall for folks here, and at this point, like I’ve alluded to previously, I’m just gonna stick to AF related stuff for the most part. 15 years of political sparing is a good run.

I won’t be be perfect though…everyone is a little bit of a crackhead about something in life 😉

Edited July 8, 2023 by nsplayr

[nsplayr]

3 hours ago, gearhog said:

You were asked a simple direct question with an easy answer, and this is how you dodge it? At least your open contempt for humanitarianism conveys how you likely feel about a family failing to legitimize a little girl's inclusion in it.

It’s stuff like this…why would I want to talk to a person like this?

Few of you would either if this kind of assumption was directed at you, having made no comment at all. And maybe you feel that way about me based on stuff I’ve said in the past. Ok, cool, the feeling is mutual.

Y’all can feel free to stop @ing me and move on with life. ✌️

Edited July 8, 2023 by nsplayr

[CaptainMorgan]

Term limits and campaign finance reform are the only way to fix this mess. Corporate donations should be outright banned. Out-of state donations should be outright banned. The candidate running for the 69th district of Georgia should not be getting financial backing from Dick Suckerburg in California because the candidate’s job is to REPRESENT their constituents, not the interests of some billionaire 1500 miles away.

As far as terms go, I think the house needs to adopt a four year term, rather than two, so that they aren’t constantly running for re-election. For term limits, I’d say no more than six total terms in the House/Senate combined. That would give you 24 years in the house, 36 in the senate, and somewhere in between for those that transition.


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[ViperMan]

4 minutes ago, CaptainMorgan said:

Term limits and campaign finance reform are the only way to fix this mess. Corporate donations should be outright banned. Out-of state donations should be outright banned. The candidate running for the 69th district of Georgia should not be getting financial backing from Dick Suckerburg in California because the candidate’s job is to REPRESENT their constituents, not the interests of some billionaire 1500 miles away.

As far as terms go, I think the house needs to adopt a four year term, rather than two, so that they aren’t constantly running for re-election. For term limits, I’d say no more than six total terms in the House/Senate combined. That would give you 24 years in the house, 36 in the senate, and somewhere in between for those that transition.

The real solution is to limit voting rights to people who pay taxes. No skin in the game is the root cause of the out-of-control moral hazard we are currently mired in. I don't think there is a way out of this until you get rid of that systemic misalignment. Said another way: there's likely no way out.

[uhhello]

7 minutes ago, ViperMan said:

The real solution is to limit voting rights to people who pay taxes. No skin in the game is the root cause of the out-of-control moral hazard we are currently mired in. I don't think there is a way out of this until you get rid of that systemic misalignment. Said another way: there's likely no way out.

Who doesn't pay taxes of some sort?

[CaptainMorgan]

Who doesn't pay taxes of some sort?

I was about to ask the same question. Only answer I could think of was:

People in Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon who don’t have property and earn little enough they don’t pay federal or state income tax. LOL.


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[gearhog]

35 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

It’s stuff like this…why would I want to talk to a person like this?

Few of you would either if this kind of assumption was directed at you, having made no comment at all. And maybe you feel that way about me based on stuff I’ve said in the past. Ok, cool, the feeling is mutual.

Y’all can feel free to stop @ing me and move on with life. ✌️

Good question. Yet here you are, quoting me in a post that was not directed at you.

"Attention in the terminal, last and final call. Flight @nsplayer to Whogivesashit is now boarding. All remaining passengers make your way to Gate 69 for an immediate departure." How many times are you going to announce your departure? 

I try very hard not to use name-calling or personal insults and I don't believe I have with you. I simply don't like many of your opinions. If me challenging those opinions causes you to fold up your lawn chair and run off, were those opinions really that strong to begin with? Will they be missed?

 

[ViperMan]

17 minutes ago, uhhello said:

Who doesn't pay taxes of some sort?

Sorry, should have been more specific. Income taxes.

[uhhello]

4 minutes ago, ViperMan said:

Sorry, should have been more specific. Income taxes.

So if you're not working for a year you don't get to vote?  I could go on and on and on.  Too many holes.  Somewhat good idea but impossible to execute.  

[ViperMan]

7 minutes ago, uhhello said:

So if you're not working for a year you don't get to vote?  I could go on and on and on.  Too many holes.  Somewhat good idea but impossible to execute.  

This is an internet message board used to exchange ideas / thoughts; let's not avoid the subject by trying to come up with a fully fleshed-out, 40000-page tax code that addresses all your nitpicks. I think my broader point is clear. There is a sizable portion of this country that provides no input into the coffers, yet is gaining an increasing share of political power and is able to exercise say over how money is directed. That is moral hazard, and should not be a thing.

[Jam]

2 hours ago, ViperMan said:

This is an internet message board used to exchange ideas / thoughts; let's not avoid the subject by trying to come up with a fully fleshed-out, 40000-page tax code that addresses all your nitpicks. I think my broader point is clear. There is a sizable portion of this country that provides no input into the coffers, yet is gaining an increasing share of political power and is able to exercise say over how money is directed. That is moral hazard, and should not be a thing.

If anything we need to make voting less restrictive. Whether someone “provides input” into the system in your opinion or not, they are still effected by that system and as an American should have a vote. Especially since the reason they may be unemployed could be due to shortcomings of said system. 
 

echo what captain morgan said, campaign finance reform is a far more important issue to tackle