The Next President is...

[Biff_T]

15 hours ago, lloyd christmas said:

This is actually pretty scary rhetoric and an evil way of thinking.  She’s talking about forcing people to change their views and opinions.  

We need to concentrate all of the people we don't agree with into some sort of camp. We can also re-educate these people.  Which party is she from?  The NAZI party?  Lol.    Keep your guns.  Shit.  Go buy more and stock up on ammo.  Fucking clown show. 

[Lord Ratner]

I have no love for Hillary Clinton, but listening to that quote in the actual interview with full context, it did not sound like she was actually suggesting it some sort of deprogramming regimen.

 

She was expressing exasperation at a phenomenon that she does not understand, and does not know how to counter. That doesn't mean I believe in anything she's arguing, or even that I don't think they would use totalitarian means to get their way, but I'm also not doing to take what was clearly an off the cuff jesting remark as some sort of policy suggestion.

[ClearedHot]

12 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:

I have no love for Hillary Clinton, but listening to that quote in the actual interview with full context, it did not sound like she was actually suggesting it some sort of deprogramming regimen.

 

She was expressing exasperation at a phenomenon that she does not understand, and does not know how to counter. That doesn't mean I believe in anything she's arguing, or even that I don't think they would use totalitarian means to get their way, but I'm also not doing to take what was clearly an off the cuff jesting remark as some sort of policy suggestion.

I hear what you are saying but her "off the cuff jesting" typically has a basis in truth:

“What? Like with a cloth or something?” she asked, then laughed. “I don’t know how it works digitally at all.”

"We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business."

When referencing Snapchat - "I love it. I love it. Those messages disappear all by themselves."

White House’s hacking by Russian forces would not have happened "had they been using my server."  

"What difference, at this point, does it make?"

 

[Lord Ratner]

56 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

I hear what you are saying but her "off the cuff jesting" typically has a basis in truth:

“What? Like with a cloth or something?” she asked, then laughed. “I don’t know how it works digitally at all.”

"We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business."

When referencing Snapchat - "I love it. I love it. Those messages disappear all by themselves."

White House’s hacking by Russian forces would not have happened "had they been using my server."  

"What difference, at this point, does it make?"

 

I agree with all that. I just think it's more likely that she was implying that all of the Trump supporters are mindless robotic cultists, rather than she actually thinks deprogramming is some sort of solution we should pursue.

 

Just more of the basket of deplorables nonsense.

[Biff_T]

Maybe we can use Epstein's Island for the first camp? 

[ClearedHot]

F-ing NitWit sold off half of the SPR for politics...what could possibly go wrong when we might have a hot war in the Middle East.

Biden sold off nearly half the U.S. oil reserve. Is it ready for a crisis?

[ViperMan]

18 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

F-ing NitWit sold off half of the SPR for politics...what could possibly go wrong when we might have a hot war in the Middle East.

Biden sold off nearly half the U.S. oil reserve. Is it ready for a crisis?

Stock up on XOM/BP/USO/SHELL.

Dems never look beyond one dimension when they're making decisions.

[lloyd christmas]

On 10/16/2023 at 3:31 PM, ClearedHot said:

F-ing NitWit sold off half of the SPR for politics...what could possibly go wrong when we might have a hot war in the Middle East.

Biden sold off nearly half the U.S. oil reserve. Is it ready for a crisis?

Russia invades Ukraine.  We send over 100 billion, who knows how much ammo/weapons and deplete our oil reserves.  Iran waits for this to happen.  They then use their proxy militaries and attack Israel.  We send more money and ammo/weapons.  Two carrier strike groups, fighter squadrons and a marine amphibious unit are now tied up.  China makes a run at Taiwan next?  Terrorist cells go live in the US via the open border?  All without a functioning congress, a president in bad health who is probably compromised with a son facing felony charges and a ex president in court.  All while we fight over identity politics.  

Nothing to see here.  
 

[herkbum]

This administration is killing this country. I hope people start voting these clowns out before they permanently f us.


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[pbar]

1 hour ago, herkbum said:

This administration is killing this country. I hope people start voting these clowns out before they permanently f us.


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I think that's their whole point.  It's President Obama's third term after all (given most of President Biden's staff are from President Obama's administration) and if you wanted to run this country into the ground, what would you have done differently?  

[gearhog]

10 hours ago, herkbum said:

This administration is killing this country. I hope people start voting these clowns out before they permanently f us.

 

[FourFans]

On 10/17/2023 at 5:34 PM, lloyd christmas said:

Russia invades Ukraine.  We send over 100 billion, who knows how much ammo/weapons and deplete our oil reserves.  Iran waits for this to happen.  They then use their proxy militaries and attack Israel.  We send more money and ammo/weapons.  Two carrier strike groups, fighter squadrons and a marine amphibious unit are now tied up.  China makes a run at Taiwan next?  Terrorist cells go live in the US via the open border?  All without a functioning congress, a president in bad health who is probably compromised with a son facing felony charges and a ex president in court.  All while we fight over identity politics.  

Nothing to see here.  
 

The parallels between this administration and that of Carter are truly uncanny.

The biggest difference is that we have no Reagan waiting in the wings to heal all the pain this administration has put us into.

[Sim]

 

[nunya]

[Blue]

9 hours ago, Sim said:

 

To state the obvious, the implication is that there are "Biden impersonators" walking around wearing some kind of mask to appear like the president.  This NBC clip shows the video this pic was taken from.

I'd like to think I'm a reasonable person, and would previously disregard such things as just so much ridiculous nonsense.  Just more flotsam and jetsam bobbing around on the internet.

But then you look around, and reflect on all of the strange, ridiculous nonsense you hear every day that is actually happening.  Arguments over who is a man and who is a woman, and other such absurdities.  Somewhat more mundane, but no less absurd, the fact that the prices of staples like milk and eggs have inflated out of sight, yet have gotten no more than a passing mention on the local news.

I just don't know anymore.

I've had some limited experience with those at the higher levels of the corporate and political spheres.  Like anything, it's interesting to get behind the scenes and see how the sausage is made.  One consistent takeaway has been that, the higher you go, the more of a laser focus there is on the stated goals.  All other considerations (morality, decency, etc) fall by the wayside.  Some say that the higher you go, the more Sociopathy you find.  Perhaps that's the case.

All I know is, taking into account the absurdities I see all around (both in the news, and in daily interactions in my neighborhood), I no longer discount such things as "man in mask impersonating the President."  While such things sound absurd, they also sound entirely possible.  Perhaps even plausible.

[17D_guy]

Ruh roh

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/politics/sidney-powell-fulton-county-georgia-2020-election-subversion/index.html

[Sua Sponte]

4 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

Ruh roh

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/politics/sidney-powell-fulton-county-georgia-2020-election-subversion/index.html

Singing like a songbird for that sweetheart deal of no prison time.

[Day Man]

*DJ Khaled* anotha one

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/20/trump-georgia-election-case-kenneth-chesebro-to-plead-guilty.html

[HeloDude]

37 minutes ago, Day Man said:

*DJ Khaled* anotha one

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/20/trump-georgia-election-case-kenneth-chesebro-to-plead-guilty.html

So what do you think will happen if Trump wins the 2024 election?  A state can’t imprison a sitting president.

[Biff_T]

Chesebro.   I have nothing of value to add other than what a weird or cool last name (depending on how you feel about cheese). Chesebro.   

Cheese Bro. 

 

[Sua Sponte]

48 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

So what do you think will happen if Trump wins the 2024 election?  A state can’t imprison a sitting president.

What’s your Constitutional Law holding for that since SCOTUS ruled long along federal and state laws are different sovereignties

Let me help you out.

“While there is no express constitutional prohibition on a President being incarcerated, it is self-evident that an incarcerated President would pose serious threats to the continued functioning of our country.”

https://harvardlawreview.org/blog/2023/04/stronga-convict-in-chief-strong/

Edited October 20, 2023 by Sua Sponte

[Biff_T]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/twitter-influencer-sentenced-trick-clinton-supporters-voting-text/story?id=104096660

 

Memes are a crime lol.   

"Misinformation".  Who gets to define this?   

"Our" government can take you away if they don't agree with you.  This is insane.  

 

 

Edited October 20, 2023 by Biff_T
Afterthought

[HeloDude]

3 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

What’s your Constitutional Law holding for that since SCOTUS ruled long along federal and state laws are different sovereignties

Let me help you out.

“While there is no express constitutional prohibition on a President being incarcerated, it is self-evident that an incarcerated President would pose serious threats to the continued functioning of our country.”

https://harvardlawreview.org/blog/2023/04/stronga-convict-in-chief-strong/

So what you’re telling me that a state could charge Biden with a crime tomorrow, arrest him, prosecute him, convict him, and then put him in jail?

[Sua Sponte]

33 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

So what you’re telling me that a state could charge Biden with a crime tomorrow, arrest him, prosecute him, convict him, and then put him in jail?

Why couldn’t they? Could Biden pardon himself of state charges/convictions? Of course he couldn’t, which is why if Trump was able to be elected president he’s still on the hook for the New York and Georgia charges. I think you’re confusing the DOJ’s policy, not law, of not charging a sitting president with federal crimes (which could be argued he could pardon himself of anyway) since they defer to the impeachment process.

A DA or a state’s AG doesn’t give a shit about the DOJ’s charging/prosecution policy for federal crimes. Like the HLS article I posted stated, which you probably didn’t read, stated there is nothing in the Constitution prohibiting a president from being incarcerated. Any state that chose to go this route with a sitting president is more likely than not going to face legal challenges to the SCOTUS for an interpretation if a state had the authority to do so over state charges.

[HeloDude]

1 hour ago, Sua Sponte said:

Why couldn’t they? Could Biden pardon himself of state charges/convictions? Of course he couldn’t, which is why if Trump was able to be elected president he’s still on the hook for the New York and Georgia charges. I think you’re confusing the DOJ’s policy, not law, of not charging a sitting president with federal crimes (which could be argued he could pardon himself of anyway) since they defer to the impeachment process.

A DA or a state’s AG doesn’t give a shit about the DOJ’s charging/prosecution policy for federal crimes. Like the HLS article I posted stated, which you probably didn’t read, stated there is nothing in the Constitution prohibiting a president from being incarcerated. Any state that chose to go this route with a sitting president is more likely than not going to face legal challenges to the SCOTUS for an interpretation if a state had the authority to do so over state charges.

Just so I understand you clearly…you honestly think that if Trump were to win in 2024, that a state would take him in and put him in prison?  Or, if he was already in prison, not release him?…and I’m not asking about an article, I’m asking you what you personally believe would actually happen.  Likewise what would happen if tomorrow South Dakota charged Biden with a crime…do you actually think Biden would stand trial as a sitting president, as well as be allowed to be put in state prison if convicted?

Even as the libertarian here, I’m discussing what we believe would actually happen…not what the Hamas loving Harvard folks write about.