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[ClearedHot]

Ten Confederate states removed Lincoln form the ballot...

[Pooter]

In an alternate reality, republicans could do the smart thing here and let the leftist state dominoes fall one by one rendering a trump candidacy meaningless because he's not on the ballot in half the country. Then, insert milquetoast right candidate, beat biden handily and be done with the trump disease forever. 
 

But they'll never do that. They'll fight it in the courts, drag trump back into the limelight, and his polling will take a nose dive as 51% of the country re-realizes how much of an insufferable tool he is.

[HeloDude]

  On 12/21/2023 at 11:08 PM, Pooter said:

In an alternate reality, republicans could do the smart thing here and let the leftist state dominoes fall one by one rendering a trump candidacy meaningless because he's not on the ballot in half the country. Then, insert milquetoast right candidate, beat biden handily and be done with the trump disease forever. 
 

But they'll never do that. They'll fight it in the courts, drag trump back into the limelight, and his polling will take a nose dive as 51% of the country re-realizes how much of an insufferable tool he is.

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By your logic, the Dems could all vote with the GOP to impeach and then convict Biden so he would be off the ballot in 2024 since he is so unpopular, corrupt, etc.  I don’t know what will happen in 2024, and I said 2-3 months ago that I gave Trump a 40% chance at winning…but now I’m definitely giving him at least a 50% chance.  Trump could very well win in 2024, and even the Dems are realizing that this is a definite possible outcome.  But your post makes it sound like you don’t believe he even has a chance at winning next November?

[tac airlifter]

  On 12/21/2023 at 11:08 PM, Pooter said:

In an alternate reality, republicans could do the smart thing here and let the leftist state dominoes fall one by one rendering a trump candidacy meaningless because he's not on the ballot in half the country. Then, insert milquetoast right candidate, beat biden handily and be done with the trump disease forever. 
 

But they'll never do that. They'll fight it in the courts, drag trump back into the limelight, and his polling will take a nose dive as 51% of the country re-realizes how much of an insufferable tool he is.

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A milquetoast right candidate cannot beat Biden because they have no constituency.  Look at polling in the Republican side right now, the milquetoast candidates have no chance.

i'm not voting for Mitt Romney or any of that ilk, they cannot fix the problems that exist in this country.  I know you don't think it's a smart thing for me to vote for people I want to vote for, but if you pretend to give a fuck about democracy you kinda have to accept the agree to disagree approach to life.  But that is not the way with Democrats, it is obey or be punished.

[ClearedHot]

My wife makes a salad using Napa Cabbage on holidays that every one loves.  I just went to the store to purchase a head of Napa Cabbage for Christmas dinner and paid $10.71 for a single head of cabbage.  This was Winn Dixie (Publix was out), not some FuFu granola Whole Foods or specialty store.  The damage done by the empty meatbag sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave is staggering.  Yet his clown Press Secretary continues to say inflation is falling.  I don't know how average families are getting by with these prices.

 

 

[uhhello]

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WPU01130211

 

[ClearedHot]

  On 12/23/2023 at 4:13 PM, uhhello said:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WPU01130211

 

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My parents are farmers, step dad is the horticulture expert and Mom is a CPA who ran the finance part of the business.  They always walked me through the numbers, shocking how small a cut of the final price goes to the farmer.

The numbers you posted are striking and paint a bleak picture.  1940's through 1978 were very flat with a sub 40 index.  Big spikes in 1976-1980 (Carter's term and high inflation period).  The steady march above 100 starts with NAFTA and Clinton, most have no idea what that did to the American Farmer.  The regulations on our side of the Rio Grand put most American farmers on the defensive.  The rules stated American farmers could not use certain methods or chemicals (Methyl Bromide), but allowed unlimited importation from countries like Mexico that used those methods and chemicals to increase production and keep price low.   I really Hoped W would have pulled us out...Obama's term established a new base around 250.  Spike in 2019 was from a salmonella outbreak, prices fell right back down then went up again (like everything else), with COVID.  We are now post COVID and the primary driver towards 400 is inflation, a four fold increase in just 25 years.  Standard cabbage, not the specialty stuff I bought today is up 18.4% from a year ago today.

[arg]

  On 12/23/2023 at 4:01 PM, ClearedHot said:

My wife makes a salad using Napa Cabbage on holidays that every one loves.  I just went to the store to purchase a head of Napa Cabbage for Christmas dinner and paid $10.71 for a single head of cabbage.  This was Winn Dixie (Publix was out), not some FuFu granola Whole Foods or specialty store.  The damage done by the empty meatbag sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave is staggering.  Yet his clown Press Secretary continues to say inflation is falling.  I don't know how average families are getting by with these prices.

 

 

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Recipe?

And there's no beer on the list.

[herkbum]

We paid $50 for a ham that costs us about $35-$40 last year.


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[ClearedHot]

  On 12/23/2023 at 5:16 PM, arg said:

Recipe?

And there's no beer on the list.

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Recipe

Got my beer on base earlier in the week, slowly trolling through the Class 6 pushing a cart full of military special bourbon and vodka...oh I was wearing black socks and sandals. 

[SurelySerious]

  On 12/23/2023 at 6:56 PM, ClearedHot said:

Recipe

It’s good stuff.

[arg]

  On 12/23/2023 at 6:56 PM, ClearedHot said:

Recipe

Got my beer on base earlier in the week, slowly trolling through the Class 6 pushing a cart full of military special bourbon and vodka...oh I was wearing black socks and sandals. 

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With Bermuda shorts, retired USAF hat with 19 pins, and T shirt to match, I'm sure. 

[M2]

  On 12/23/2023 at 4:01 PM, ClearedHot said:

My wife makes a salad using Napa Cabbage on holidays that every one loves.  I just went to the store to purchase a head of Napa Cabbage for Christmas dinner and paid $10.71 for a single head of cabbage.  This was Winn Dixie ...

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Therein lies your problem.  You need to move somewhere that has a HEB!

[Biff_T]

  On 12/23/2023 at 4:01 PM, ClearedHot said:

My wife makes a salad using Napa Cabbage on holidays that every one loves.  I just went to the store to purchase a head of Napa Cabbage for Christmas dinner and paid $10.71 for a single head of cabbage.  This was Winn Dixie (Publix was out), not some FuFu granola Whole Foods or specialty store.  The damage done by the empty meatbag sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave is staggering.  Yet his clown Press Secretary continues to say inflation is falling.  I don't know how average families are getting by with these prices.

 

 

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Did you try the Piggly Wiggly?

Those are my two favorite stores to visit in the South.

Winn Dixie (let's go Dixie!) and the GD Piggly Wiggly.  

[Biff_T]

  On 12/24/2023 at 3:35 PM, M2 said:

Therein lies your problem.  You need to move somewhere that has a HEB!

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Is this racist?  

[M2]

  On 12/24/2023 at 9:31 PM, Biff_T said:

Is this racist?  

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As this is a government-themed thread...

[Biff_T]

  On 12/23/2023 at 6:56 PM, ClearedHot said:

Recipe

Got my beer on base earlier in the week, slowly trolling through the Class 6 pushing a cart full of military special bourbon and vodka...oh I was wearing black socks and sandals. 

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You can take the boy out of the AC-130 but you can't the AC-130 out of the boy. 

[HeloDude]

DeSantis is now out.  After Haley loses in NH and SC, I imagine she’ll drop out as well.

[ecugringo]

  On 1/21/2024 at 10:26 PM, HeloDude said:

DeSantis is now out.  After Haley loses in NH and SC, I imagine she’ll drop out as well.

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And Tim Scott endorsed trump….I’d say she has no shot in sc at this point…..strange times

[ClearedHot]

  On 1/21/2024 at 10:36 PM, ecugringo said:

And Tim Scott endorsed trump….I’d say she has no shot in sc at this point…..strange times

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Now the fight for the VP slot.  I see the front runners as Elise Stefanik, Kristi Noem, Tim Scott, or Ron Desantis.  He ruled Haley out which is odd as it would have brought him some voted from the middle.

[HeloDude]

  On 1/21/2024 at 10:36 PM, ecugringo said:

And Tim Scott endorsed trump….I’d say she has no shot in sc at this point…..strange times

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I don’t think she ever did have a shot in SC, or much of one in the entire primary period.  And I wouldn’t really call it anything “strange”—Trump is basically running as an incumbent when it comes to party politics, and the majority of the GOP agree that it’s his nomination.  Now can he win in November?—I’m still going with my 50/50 that I mentioned a few weeks ago.

The real question before November is will Biden or Obama be the Dem nominee?

[kaputt]

Unreal to me that we’re going to get the vegetable vs Orange Man part II. The Republican Party, both the people running it and the base of voters, continues to prove they have absolutely zero long term strategy or vision. 
 

I personally don’t think he’ll win, despite the current administration being the biggest joke and embarrassment that has ever graced the Oval Office.
 

But let’s say Trump does win. He’s an instant lame duck president, that will bring back all the chaos of his first 4 years, and then some. Now to be fair some of that will be induced from the unhinged left, but Trump is going to bring plenty himself. And let’s be honest here, the pendulum is going to swing hard back to the left after another 4 years or Trump, and there will be no hope for whoever runs for the republicans in 2028. All the crazy leftist stuff will be right back in play after getting another four years of TDS to raise the temperature. 
 

Desantis was likely the best candidate to actually help put effective policy in place and coherently stand up to far leftist garbage. But for some reason a whole swath of otherwise normal people are addicted to supporting a narcissist who only cares about himself. 
 

 

[Lord Ratner]

  On 1/22/2024 at 12:46 AM, kaputt said:

Unreal to me that we’re going to get the vegetable vs Orange Man part II. The Republican Party, both the people running it and the base of voters, continues to prove they have absolutely zero long term strategy or vision. 
 

I personally don’t think he’ll win, despite the current administration being the biggest joke and embarrassment that has ever graced the Oval Office.
 

But let’s say Trump does win. He’s an instant lame duck president, that will bring back all the chaos of his first 4 years, and then some. Now to be fair some of that will be induced from the unhinged left, but Trump is going to bring plenty himself. And let’s be honest here, the pendulum is going to swing hard back to the left after another 4 years or Trump, and there will be no hope for whoever runs for the republicans in 2028. All the crazy leftist stuff will be right back in play after getting another four years of TDS to raise the temperature. 
 

Desantis was likely the best candidate to actually help put effective policy in place and coherently stand up to far leftist garbage. But for some reason a whole swath of otherwise normal people are addicted to supporting a narcissist who only cares about himself. 
 

 

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Trump was never the cause, he was always the symptom. And honestly has anything changed to indicate different symptoms?

 

The problem is not the people who are running. The problem is human nature and societal oscillations. It's happened before and it's happening again.

It's a bummer.

[Biff_T]

  On 1/22/2024 at 12:46 AM, kaputt said:

Desantis was likely the best candidate to actually help put effective policy in place and coherently stand up to far leftist garbage. But for some reason a whole swath of otherwise normal people are addicted to supporting a narcissist who only cares about himself. 
 

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DeSantis would win in a world of sane people but a lot of Americans, who can vote, don't have the mental capacity to operate a Tilt a Whirl at the local traveling carnival.    The others are trying to convince our children that it's OK to mutilate their genitals before they can even legally buy a pack of cigarettes, a cold beer and a Penthouse.    

For DeSantis (or anybody for that matter) to win any federal government seat of power, he needs to be a professional wrestler with a voice like Macho Man Randy Savage (RIP), or the exact opposite. 

Like this:

[HossHarris]

Idiocracy was prophecy….and it’s got what plants crave.