Smokin Posted November 8 Posted November 8 That would rock DC to the foundations (or muck where foundations should be). That would be amazing and so beneficial to our country if people actually SERVED for two terms rather than making a career and enormous personal wealth out of being an elected official. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think it'll ever happen.
Lord Ratner Posted November 8 Posted November 8 (edited) 8 hours ago, Smokin said: That would rock DC to the foundations (or muck where foundations should be). That would be amazing and so beneficial to our country if people actually SERVED for two terms rather than making a career and enormous personal wealth out of being an elected official. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think it'll ever happen. Two would be crazy. Every member of the House of Representatives would be a slave to their staff in a way much worse than the president currently is to the bureaucracy. I say 3 terms for senators and 6 for representatives, and that applies to all districts. No switching counties or states for another 6/3 terms. You need a few years to become an expert in any job. But the incidence of corruption is much higher in the 20+ year offices. Also, it greatly reduces the number of geriatric congressmen, since so many are age-in-place barnacles. A particularly savvy politician could then only serve 46 years of elected office if they successfully win every election as a representative, senator, vice president, and president. Numerically that will be impossible for more than 4 people per generation. If you can pull that off, bravo. The rest will be limited to <20 years Edited November 9 by Lord Ratner 2 1
disgruntledemployee Posted November 8 Author Posted November 8 15 hours ago, HeloDude said: Your username name really fits right now, just in case you weren’t tracking. Thanks Gary. You should team up with Ace (aka slc) for all the personal shit, I'm sure you would make a great duo.
BashiChuni Posted November 8 Posted November 8 12 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said: Thanks Gary. You should team up with Ace (aka slc) for all the personal shit, I'm sure you would make a great duo. Go touch grass
Pooter Posted November 9 Posted November 9 On 11/7/2024 at 9:50 AM, Vito said: Poster write, “ With the George Floyd riots and covid bringing out tonsof low propensity voters and TDS at its peak” That’s kind of my point, were George Floyd BLM rioters and anarchists really that much more motivated to vote, and how many Rioters were there really? Add to this the absolute Hysteria that gripped the largely Democrat ranks, I find it incredulous that Covid, mail in ballots, or motivation to leave a safe home and vote during a pandemic that still scares most democrats today, would account for 20 MILLION EXTRA VOTES. A FEW MILLION, MAYBE BUT NOT 20,000,000. I’d love for some whistleblower to surface. I absolutely think the conditions at the time could have drawn tens of millions of extra voters to the polls. -Covid was the first thing for a lot of people where government policy directly impacted them. -how many rioters were there? Idk like tens to hundreds of thousands in every major US city.. seemed like a lot of people to me when it was happening Trump jumped 11-12 million votes from 2016 to 2020 which was a huge anomaly as well. I’d be a lot more suspicious if one side had insane turnout while the other remained basically the same. But both parties had a massive jump in 2020 which tells me something really big in the zeitgeist was happening at the time. … Or somebody faked 1/6th of all of the votes to the tune of 30 million ballots, did it for both sides for some reason, and we still don’t have a single shred of evidence of the largest voter fraud conspiracy in American history. 2
Lord Ratner Posted November 9 Posted November 9 54 minutes ago, Pooter said: I absolutely think the conditions at the time could have drawn tens of millions of extra voters to the polls. -Covid was the first thing for a lot of people where government policy directly impacted them. -how many rioters were there? Idk like tens to hundreds of thousands in every major US city.. seemed like a lot of people to me when it was happening Trump jumped 11-12 million votes from 2016 to 2020 which was a huge anomaly as well. I’d be a lot more suspicious if one side had insane turnout while the other remained basically the same. But both parties had a massive jump in 2020 which tells me something really big in the zeitgeist was happening at the time. … Or somebody faked 1/6th of all of the votes to the tune of 30 million ballots, did it for both sides for some reason, and we still don’t have a single shred of evidence of the largest voter fraud conspiracy in American history. Shack
Pooter Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised with how the dems have taken this absolute ass whooping. Lots of hysterics online and on the talk shows, but the people that mattered respected the process, conceded in a timely fashion, and honestly did a lot to de-escalate and re-instill trust in our election process right now. Honestly I’m really thankful for this outcome because I’m positive a trump loss would not have garnered the same reaction from republicans, and it would have gotten very bad. The left has shown a shocking amount of maturity and done something I think most of the maga crowd is incapable of right now: accepting election results that didn’t go their way. Having said that.. I’m fully prepared to be proven wrong by the dems as soon as they regroup enough to concoct the next grand conspiracy about the right, probably involving them all somehow being nazis. Edited November 9 by Pooter
disgruntledemployee Posted November 9 Author Posted November 9 3 hours ago, Pooter said: I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised with how the dems have taken this absolute ass whooping. Lots of hysterics online and on the talk shows, but the people that mattered respected the process, conceded in a timely fashion, and honestly did a lot to de-escalate and re-instill trust in our election process right now. Honestly I’m really thankful for this outcome because I’m positive a trump loss would not have garnered the same reaction from republicans, and it would have gotten very bad. The left has shown a shocking amount of maturity and done something I think most of the maga crowd is incapable of right now: accepting election results that didn’t go their way. Having said that.. I’m fully prepared to be proven wrong by the dems as soon as they regroup enough to concoct the next grand conspiracy about the right, probably involving them all somehow being nazis. I think it has more to do with Dems stepped on their dick big time and know it. Shoving a candidate down people's throat hasn't worked yet, but they keep doing it.
disgruntledemployee Posted November 9 Author Posted November 9 6 hours ago, slc said: Triggered would be more apropos Thanks Ace. Be sure to team with Gary for next personal attack versus trying to score points on intellect and clever thoughts. The Dynamic Duo strikes again.
Smokin Posted November 9 Posted November 9 7 hours ago, Pooter said: I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised with how the dems have taken this absolute ass whooping. Lots of hysterics online and on the talk shows, but the people that mattered respected the process, conceded in a timely fashion, and honestly did a lot to de-escalate and re-instill trust in our election process right now. Honestly I’m really thankful for this outcome because I’m positive a trump loss would not have garnered the same reaction from republicans, and it would have gotten very bad. The left has shown a shocking amount of maturity and done something I think most of the maga crowd is incapable of right now: accepting election results that didn’t go their way. Having said that.. I’m fully prepared to be proven wrong by the dems as soon as they regroup enough to concoct the next grand conspiracy about the right, probably involving them all somehow being nazis. I agree and some credit is to be given. However, that credit is somewhat decreased by two factors: 1 - It wasn't close. He got 42 more electoral votes than necessary and won every single swing state. A Republican President hasn't gotten that many electoral votes since Bush/Dukakis. Had it been close and taken 3-4 days to count the rest of the votes (still counting AZ? WTF?), they might be singing a different tune. 2 - After all the criticism of Trump not accepting 2020, even the mainstream media would point out the utter hypocrisy. 1
ClearedHot Posted November 9 Posted November 9 5 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said: I think it has more to do with Dems stepped on their dick big time and know it. Shoving a candidate down people's throat hasn't worked yet, but they keep doing it. It wasn't just the candidate, it was the policies, Joe would have lost this election as well. The open border, paying for transition surgery for illegals and prison inmates, wokeism, green new deal, govt spending, lawfare, openly supporting suppression of Constitutional rights like free speech. Don't get me wrong, unrestrained conservative policies can be just as bad, but after four years of the DNC running amok, the people were so soured that they overlooked the abortion issue and reelected the Orange Man. 1 1 2
HeloDude Posted November 9 Posted November 9 10 hours ago, Pooter said: The left has shown a shocking amount of maturity… Maturity? They spent the last several months to years saying Trump is literally Hitler…that doesn’t sound very mature to me. You even mention how you think the left might/probably will call the right “Nazis”…but where have you been? They’ve already been doing it. 1 1
brabus Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) Honestly I’ve seen zero maturity from nearly all of the left people I’m still connected with on SM. A couple have remained silent on SM, but the majority have displayed childish thinking and outrage the last several days. They are absolutely deranged and unhinged from reality and logic; it’s sad to see people who were great 20 years ago be completely brainwashed fools now. Too bad. Now I do think at the national level they’ve politically responded better than 2020, I will give those props where it’s due. But it has nothing to do with maturity…reference my friend-based example, the View, colleges giving kids the day off so they can cry like children, etc. Very deranged, ludicrously stupid responses all around, despite Harris, etc. actually acting professional about it (for the most part). Edited November 9 by brabus 1 1 1
Lord Ratner Posted November 9 Posted November 9 1 hour ago, ClearedHot said: It wasn't just the candidate, it was the policies, Joe would have lost this election as well. The open border, paying for transition surgery for illegals and prison inmates, wokeism, green new deal, govt spending, lawfare, openly supporting suppression of Constitutional rights like free speech. Don't get me wrong, unrestrained conservative policies can be just as bad, but after four years of the DNC running amok, the people were so soured that they overlooked the abortion issue and reelected the Orange Man. The abortion issue was solved by pushing it to the states, as predicted. It's hard to get pissed about abortion when the law in your immediate environment reflects your desires. Now that 10 more states have decided, I doubt you'll hear anything at all in the 2028 election. Lucky for Vance. Do you think Joe would have done better? I can't decide. It feels like a long time ago but the absolute tidal wave of negative press and sentiment shift after that debate was devastating. I think he would have lost even harder, and appropriately so; he's practically a vegetable at this point.
polcat Posted November 9 Posted November 9 Maybe the majority of Democrats have accepted the loss. But I've seen this on SM and cannot fathom how people draw parallels to this election and 9/11. 2
Biff_T Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) https://youtu.be/aSMsdfY5B8s?si=2pjMv-N_Zq_mRmxs The coolest thing I've seen in a while is Jimmy Kimmel shedding some man tears. What a loser lol. Edited November 9 by Biff_T 2
SocialD Posted November 9 Posted November 9 30 minutes ago, Biff_T said: https://youtu.be/aSMsdfY5B8s?si=2pjMv-N_Zq_mRmxs The coolest thing I've seen in a while is Jimmy Kimmel shedding some man tears. What a loser lol. It's funny to see Jimmy Kimmel talk about something being bad for women...the same guy who co-hosted the man show. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds. 6
Vito Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) Pooter wrote, “The left has shown a shocking amount of maturity and done something I think most of the maga crowd is incapable of right now: accepting election results that didn’t go their way.” I know you’re referring to last weeks election, but this is the same Left that fostered upon America a national temper tantrum after the 2016 election! Remember the riots, Marches etc that lasted for months. And don’t forget they constructed the Russia,Russia, Russia, narrative that caused chaos and havoc for Trumps Presidency. I give them zero credit. Karma is a bitch Edited November 9 by Vito 2
HeloDude Posted November 9 Posted November 9 Just one of many examples where the left doesn’t get it…and they double down on their own nonsense.
brabus Posted November 9 Posted November 9 2 hours ago, polcat said: Maybe the majority of Democrats have accepted the loss. But I've seen this on SM and cannot fathom how people draw parallels to this election and 9/11. That’s the type of ludicrously stupid stuff we’re seeing from the left right now. Cool, you “accepted” the results, but when you follow up with the dumb shit like this, you are not a mature, rational adult. 2
Pooter Posted November 9 Posted November 9 I literally said people are in hysterics online.. it would be ridiculous to expect there not to be. But I couldn’t give two shits what some blue haired gender studies major posts on IG about the election being their own personal 9-11, because there will always be people like that on all sides, and ultimately they have no power in the national conversation. The people who actually do have the power on the left sent an important message: accept the results, and we aren’t going to tear the country apart over an outcome we don’t like. Did they only concede because the results were so definitive? Maybe. Did they only concede because they’re starting to realize they burned all their credibility? Also maybe. But I don’t think we would’ve gotten the same reaction from Trump/Vance had they lost, and I think they primed their die hard supporters to dismiss any election result other than a win as fraudulent. Understandable as that sentiment may be, after decades of democrat fuckery, that attitude is a truly dangerous one for the long term viability of the country. 1 1
uhhello Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) Someone please explain AZ to me. How the in the hell does it take them this long to finish an election. It's every year too. 4 days in and they are at 82% overall but some are still around 60% reported. Edited November 9 by uhhello 1
ClearedHot Posted November 9 Posted November 9 Today we have ANOTHER demonstration of the EVIL that the DNC has become. They seem to have no limits to their contempt and corruption. We started down an ugly path under Obama when the IRS started targeting conservative groups. They malfeasance grew when the FBI invented FISA warrants to spy on a Presidential candidate, Then the intelligence community sought to suppress what they knew was a real laptop story. When the DOJ decided to wage lawfare against a political opponent I thought we found the limit of their evil...sadly we now they will punish individual Americans in their greatest time of need, simply because they have a different political ideology. FEMA official removed from role for directing hurricane relief away from Trump supporters' homes This traitor actually instructed workers canvassing Lake Placid in Florida to "avoid homes advertising Trump." What evil must circle in his consciousness. Interestingly he was only "removed" from his role but remains an employee of FEMA. Disgusting. 3
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