The Next President is...

[arg]

In NM you need ID to register. At the polls they ask some PII. So there is room for some fraud. Significant numbers would take time but I guess it's possible.

[M2]

As of five minutes ago... GOP 216 seats, Democrats 207.  Here are the statuses of the remaining races...

Alaska At-Large District: Republican Nick Begich is leading incumbent Democrat Mary Peltola by over 10,000 votes.
Arizona's 6th District: Incumbent Republican Juan Ciscomani is ahead of Democrat Kirsten Engel by 4,900 votes.
California's 9th District: Democrat Josh Harder is leading Republican Kevin Lincoln by more than 7,000 votes.
California's 13th District: Freshman GOP Rep. John Duarte is ahead of Democrat Adam Gray by nearly 3,000 votes.
California's 21st District: Democrat Jim Costa is leading Republican Michael Maher by just over 1,300 votes.
California's 22nd District: Republican David Valadao is ahead of Democrat Rudy Salas by 9,500 votes.
California's 41st District: Republican Ken Calvert is leading Democrat Will Rollins by more than 7,500 votes.
California's 45th District: GOP incumbent Michelle Steel is ahead of Democrat Derek Tran by 3,900 votes.
California's 47th District: Democrat David Min is leading Republican Scott Baugh by more than 3,200 votes.
California's 49th District: Democrat Mike Levin is ahead of Republican Matt Gunderson by 14,000 votes.
Iowa's 1st District: Republican Mariannette Miller-Meeks is leading Democrat Christina Bohannan by 796 votes.
Maine's 2nd District: Democrat Jared Golden is ahead of Republican Austin Theriault by more than 2,100 votes.

If everything stays on track, the GOP will end up with 223 seats and the Democrats 212.  Iowa's 1st District is the closest vote difference with only just under 800 votes...

[TreeA10]

I'm baffled in this age of near instantaneous information exchange, Google searches in microseconds, and real time tracking of millions of package locations by freight carriers, why the hell can't votes be counted in a day? A week is just plain stupid.

[HeloDude]

8 minutes ago, TreeA10 said:

I'm baffled in this age of near instantaneous information exchange, Google searches in microseconds, and real time tracking of millions of package locations by freight carriers, why the hell can't votes be counted in a day? A week is just plain stupid.

Someone has to explain to me how it’s not due to incompetence, or worse (hopefully not), due to shady stuff going on.

[Smokin]

Some may be mail in ballots that had questionable signatures and needed to be verified, ballots that the machine rejected and have to be counted by hand, things like that.  But in general, I agree.  I voted in person this year for the first time in 20 years and the machine took my ballot as fast as copier and a little green light came on indicating that everything was good and it was counted.  My vote was registered into the state count within seconds.

[uhhello]

AZ's yearly response is 'we do it right'.  Sure, almost every other state gets them done in a couple of days at most and they just haphazardly tabulate ballots and what not.  

[ViperMan]

4 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

I'm baffled in this age of near instantaneous information exchange, Google searches in microseconds, and real time tracking of millions of package locations by freight carriers, why the hell can't votes be counted in a day? A week is just plain stupid.

Laws. Regulations. Regulatory capture. Bureaucracy. Safety. Equity. Fairness. Status quo. Oversight. Risk-mitigation. Risk-aversion. Precaution. Guard rails. Red tape. Protocol. Compliance. Special interests. Precedent. 

Motherhood abounds in our society. Votes could be counted nearly instantaneously if we really wanted them to be. But it wouldn't be fair to some person, in some place, at some time. Or something.

Edited November 14 by ViperMan

[brabus]

I can easily vote illegally in two states based on first hand experience - so I’m sure sorting through that shitshow takes egregious amount of time. If we had solid voting ID requirements and continuous, stringent voter roll QC in place in 50 states, this delayed timeline wouldn’t be a thing. 

[ClearedHot]

11 hours ago, uhhello said:

AZ's yearly response is 'we do it right'.  Sure, almost every other state gets them done in a couple of days at most and they just haphazardly tabulate ballots and what not.  

Florida with a population of 22 million completed the ballot count that evening, while Arizona with 7 million took a week...a complete embarrassment for Arizona, but they don't care.   Florida made big changes after the hanging chads incident and it shows.  Early voting opens 22 days prior and they count all of early ballots before election day.  In fact, it is state law that the early ballot results MUST be posted 30 minutes after the polls close.  I voted about two weeks early and was in and out in 5 minutes, my wife voted the day of and it took her about the same amount of time.  I think the process encourages voting, our county has roughly 145,000 registered voters and 113,000 of them voted in this election. 

[O Face]

[fire4effect]

16 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

I'm baffled in this age of near instantaneous information exchange, Google searches in microseconds, and real time tracking of millions of package locations by freight carriers, why the hell can't votes be counted in a day? A week is just plain stupid.

Ironically the cumbersome and widely varying (read inefficient) processes across states makes it more difficult to instigate large scale fraud. 

[M2]

9 hours ago, brabus said:

I can easily vote illegally in two states based on first hand experience - so I’m sure sorting through that shitshow takes egregious amount of time. If we had solid voting ID requirements and continuous, stringent voter roll QC in place in 50 states, this delayed timeline wouldn’t be a thing. 

I voted early, but the wife waited until Election Day.  I walked down to the polling place with her and for a split second I was tempted to see if I could vote again, but the prospect of being fined up to $10,000 and imprisoned for up to five years (or both, per Title 52 of the United States Code, Section 10307(e)) and even worse the possibility of having to give up my arsenal as a convicted felon (I'm not a politician, so I wouldn't have been able to get away with it!) was an effective deterrent!

But honestly, I do suspect there was a chance they would have let me do so...

[TreeA10]

Some district in CA has successfully counted 76% of ballots.   I'm envisioning some 90 year old dude with an abacus pulling sacks off the dusty delivery donkeys before dragging the bags into a 1930s vintage country store counting a few ballots between conversations with the locals about that new fangled telephone on the wall.  

[ClearedHot]

Interesting to see some second and third order effects from the election.  The pendulum is defiantly swinging away from woke-ism and progressive messaging.

Post election MSNBC, the #2 most watched news network saw it saw it's average daily viewership decline by 54%, CNN took it on the chin as well with a 36% decline.  CNN was already circling the drain, in 2023 they hit a ten year low in ratings and earlier this year they laid off 100 employees.  In recent days word has leaked that CNN is laying off and letting go some of their "top tier" on air talent as well as HUNDREDS of staff.  Sad to see the decline, they were the gold standard for so long.  Who else remembers watching the 1st Gulf War live on CNN.  Bernard Shaw live in Baghdad when the bombing started.  Sadly Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper turned the network into a progressive Trump hate machine and pulled them into the quicksand, now they are nothing more than a JV squad.

Foxnews on the other hand saw a staggering 10+ Million viewers during its election night coverage, the network averaged 4.375 million viewers from last Wednesday to Friday. That’s a 34% increase compared to its October viewership (3.27 million viewers) as well as a 58% increase compared to its year-to-date average (2.775 million viewers).  All of these numbers are reported as Nielsen figures.   I am not defending Foxnews, they obviously are the screaming from the other side but their message, especially in recent years seems to resonate with more people.

I still try to rotate around the networks, election night was tough to keep MSNBC tuned in...they started off believing it was going to be a Harris landslide and they kept hanging their hat on that Iowa outlier poll that had her leading Iowa by 10 points.  When Iowa was called for Trump early, you could see the tone change.  Maddow began her slow on air decline into had and the end of the world.  CNN was not much better, Van Jones upon realizing Trump would win tried to label it a race backlash and nearly came to tears defending illegals and their "dream."

[brabus]

After about 6 months of Biden and the Dem machine, I knew we were headed for a hard right pendulum swing. That is the consequence of going extremely left. Based on the general Dem responses so far, I think we may be looking at more than 4 years of GOP control, which I am all for while we wait for the Dems to come around to honestly debriefing their epic failure and redirecting the party in a way that brings us back to a centrist, “shared” control gov. But until they do that, it’s likely a GOP controlled gov. The question is how long does it take them to do this - 2 years, 4 years, 12 years?

Edited Friday at 03:55 PM by brabus

[Swizzle]

3 hours ago, brabus said:

// ...which I am all for while we wait for the Dems to come around to honestly debriefing their epic failure and redirecting the party in a way that brings us back to a centrist, “shared” control gov. But until they do that, it’s likely a GOP controlled gov. The question is how long does it take them to do this - 2 years, 4 years, 12 years?

Power is addictive, Dems will re-org before next opportunity...chiefly, the midterm elections.

[brabus]

22 minutes ago, Swizzle said:

Dems will re-org before next opportunity

Seems very optimistic, but certainly possible.

[StoleIt]

On 11/14/2024 at 4:30 PM, TreeA10 said:

Some district in CA has successfully counted 76% of ballots.   I'm envisioning some 90 year old dude with an abacus pulling sacks off the dusty delivery donkeys before dragging the bags into a 1930s vintage country store counting a few ballots between conversations with the locals about that new fangled telephone on the wall.  

[herkbum]

Flash Flash, 100 yard dash!


Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

[brabus]

For anyone adding to the list of events that made voters rebuke the Dems, we now have a woman imprisoned for 9 years because she argued 2020 voting machines were compromised*, but we have several Dems in Pennsylvania outwardly admitting to violating voting law because they want to count invalid votes. Literally breaking the law trying to sway an election in their favor and not one mention of bringing charges. The gross imbalance of legal action depending on party affiliation is sickening and a major reason voters have walked away from the Dems. I will happily eat crow in the future if every one of them ends up in prison for years.

*For those interested in what actually brought a 9 year sentence:

“Peters was convicted of three counts of attempting to influence a public servant, one count of conspiracy to commit criminal impersonation, first-degree official misconduct, violation of duty and failing to comply with the secretary of state.” Of note she didn’t actually manipulate any vote counts, unlike the Pennsylvania people mentioned above. So I guess they need over 9 years of incarceration…

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 03:50 PM by brabus

[fire4effect]

53 minutes ago, brabus said:

For anyone adding to the list of events that made voters rebuke the Dems, we now have a woman imprisoned for 9 years because she argued 2020 voting machines were compromised*, but we have several Dems in Pennsylvania outwardly admitting to violating voting law because they want to count invalid votes. Literally breaking the law trying to sway an election in their favor and not one mention of bringing charges. The gross imbalance of legal action depending on party affiliation is sickening and a major reason voters have walked away from the Dems. I will happily eat crow in the future if every one of them ends up in prison for years.

*For those interested in what actually brought a 9 year sentence:

“Peters was convicted of three counts of attempting to influence a public servant, one count of conspiracy to commit criminal impersonation, first-degree official misconduct, violation of duty and failing to comply with the secretary of state.” Of note she didn’t actually manipulate any vote counts, unlike the Pennsylvania people mentioned above. So I guess they need over 9 years of incarceration…

 

 

Not saying it happened here but so many infractions it seems especially at the federal level have the potential for some pretty draconian penalties. Prosecutors love when something can carry a 25-year sentence even when they rarely get that much because it's a really big club to coerce a plea deal and they don't have to actually prove anything in court. Trial penalty is real especially when most of us can't afford a high-priced legal team to keep the government honest. They have unlimited taxpayer money and will go home at the end of the day no matter the outcome. 

[uhhello]

Will be very interesting to see how the rhetoric about hitting the cartels will come to fruition.

[Clark Griswold]

Sounds far fetched but some serious questioning in public, under oath would do some good of retired GOs and SES types

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/11/19/trump-reportedly-has-a-radical-plan-for-accountability-on-afghanistan-and-the-press-are-furious-n2182215

[fire4effect]

10 hours ago, uhhello said:

Will be very interesting to see how the rhetoric about hitting the cartels will come to fruition.

Hopefully something like this.