Sua Sponte Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, HeloDude said: What a difference a year can make. That post was made eight months before this ruling, which cemented what you said. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf Edited December 3, 2024 by Sua Sponte
ClearedHot Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 9 hours ago, Negatory said: Sorry, do you know what whataboutism is or do you just say big words to try to sound smart? And are you intending to be this divisive? Internet gold...keep sharing insults as we live in your head rent free all day long. 2
M2 Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 Apples and oranges. Kushner served 2/3rds of his sentence, how much is Hunter going to serve? And his tax evasion was between $200,000 and $325,000. Hunter Biden's was $1.4 million. Kushner has made significant charitable contributions over the years. His philanthropic efforts include donations to organizations such as Saint Barnabas Medical Center and United Cerebral Palsy. Hunter's a drug user who lied about it when purchasing a firearm. Biden gave his son blanket immunity from any Federal crime committed over a 11-year period. If anyone honestly thinks that's OK, then they really need to step away from society until reality sets back in! The Bidens are making the Clintons and Obamas look like Girl Scouts! 2 1 1
Smokin Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 3 hours ago, Negatory said: The irony in this statement is quite honestly hilarious. Let me break it down by demonstrating how the “other side” would use the exact same drivel: “I don’t think Biden is a saint, but I also think that your calling him a criminal when he has clearly been targeted by the exact type of personal prosecution that Trump used as an excuse to dismiss charges against himself is ironic.” Realize you live in a bubble that you have created - or allow to exist - yourself. I fully agree that people like Biden and Hillary should face the consequence of their actions. If you want to selectively ignore the hundred of pages of legal evidence along with dozens of claims that Trump is a financial, national security, and sex criminal, while coming to this forum excited about Hunter Biden crime pdfs, you’re biased. The compromise of values is when you selectively choose to only criticize one side of politics because you want to “win.” It is reasonable to vote for Trump just as it’s reasonable to vote for Kamala as long as you can be critical of their faults. Problem is, you guys can’t be. It’s not socially acceptable for your bubbles. And yes, I hear the counter arguments now, “I never said I liked Trump.” You guys just typically draw the line at calling him out for his crimes for some reason. You know nothing about me other than what I have posted on here, which has been less than 1000 posts over the last 20 plus years. Hardly enough to be able to decide that I live in a bubble. Perhaps you're just projecting? i have not called out Trump's crimes because, as Bashi pointed out, they are actually misdemeanors that were elevated to felonies by AGs that are clearly out to get him. It is my understanding that for one of the crimes he was convicted of in NY, he is literally the only person that has ever been charged for that specific crime. He was convicted of a business crime that the supposed victim made a bunch of money off of. Convicting someone for a felony for a victimless business crime is unheard of. I stand by the statement that if he had not made enemies of the left by becoming President, zero of those crimes would have been prosecuted. On the other hand, someone evading $1.4M in taxes and illegal gun purchases is something any AG should prosecute. This is only partially about Hunter. There is enough evidence that Biden used his office to influence foreign states to profit his family to easily merit a grand jury, but that will likely not happen now because of the pardon. Which crime should we be more concerned about: a business man claiming he properties are worth 10% more than market value to get better loan terms or a sitting VP selling favors to foreign powers to bring in millions for his family?
lloyd christmas Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 11 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: Then declassify everything regarding the Bidens. A little sunshine will do the country well, and roaches hate it. This is the way to handle it. No prosecutions but complete transparency. Beat them at their game. The public deserves to know the truth. 3 1
ClearedHot Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 A great argument until Biden pardon's himself on the way out the door. 1
SurelySerious Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 A great argument until Jill writes up a pardon for Joe on the way out the door. FIFY 1
HeloDude Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 11 hours ago, Sua Sponte said: That post was made eight months before this ruling, which cemented what you said. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf Trump was still found guilty in NY, was he not? And the decision hasn’t been overturned or reversed (or whatever)…so why isn’t he going to prison? It’s because Trump was never going to prison is he won the presidency. It amazes me that people actually thought over the last couple of years that Trump would go to prison, even if he won the election.
Lord Ratner Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 4 hours ago, HossHarris said: This was spotted immediately. It won't matter: "I don't recall" He doesn't have an immunity deal contingent on testimony in a criminal trial as a witness. He already has immunity, and no amount of pretending he forgot everything will change that.
skybert Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 6 hours ago, ClearedHot said: A great argument until Biden pardon's himself on the way out the door. And allows Trump to have a stack of “self pardons” on his desk.
BashiChuni Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 13 hours ago, Negatory said: You guys just typically draw the line at calling him out for his crimes for some reason. be specific. what crimes? i'd like to see what you have in your mind.
M2 Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 If the Democrats kept insisting “Hunter Biden is innocent!!“ then what did he get pardoned for? 2
M2 Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 27 minutes ago, Biff_T said: I heard Biden is going to pardon P Diddy. I suspect Biden will also pardon the 10+ million illegals estimated to have entered this country during his term but who he claims didn't do anything wrong either!! 🫣🫣 1
ViperMan Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 I actually don't have a problem with Biden pardoning the gun and drug charges. I'm opposed philosophically, but they are relatively uninteresting charges to have dismissed, and they "make sense" given the fact that it's his dad. I fundamentally disagree, but I can see it from a cynical, dem, hypocritical world-view. That it's such a blanket pardon - covering crimes (both known and unknown?) against the United States that go back as far as 2014 - IS a major problem, though. It raises major questions about just what the Bidens have been up to since then (i.e. Ukraine, etc.). What does Joe know? How can a blanket get-out-of-jail free card even be hypothetically legal? What if he had killed someone during that time frame? Would a murder charge now be off limits? Part of me is happy that Joe Biden is laying bare the absolute rank hypocrisy of the democrats, but I am concerned, though, as it does continue to degrade our society and government. 1 1 1
brabus Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 7 hours ago, ViperMan said: but I am concerned, though, as it does continue to degrade our society and government. The only way it doesn’t is doing something like Lord Ratner said above…can’t drag them to court, but Trump sure as shit can declassify everything and release it to the world. That would be even better than any trials that hypothetically could have happened. If the dark world of that corrupt shitshow family (and others like them) are massively exposed, and not just on obscure sites, it would likely wake up even more people to the absolute lie they’ve bought. 2 2
disgruntledemployee Posted December 5, 2024 Author Posted December 5, 2024 (edited) Where do I send the check for my blanket pardon? PS, I think Senile Joe is about to strap on a leather helmet and a drool bucket let alone remember what he said a while back, but step-momma Jill remembers and she still needs her boy to reignite the family biz. Edited December 5, 2024 by disgruntledemployee
Biff_T Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 11 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said: her boy to reignite the family biz. 4
ClearedHot Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 15 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said: Where do I send the check for my blanket pardon? PS, I think Senile Joe is about to strap on a leather helmet and a drool bucket let alone remember what he said a while back, but step-momma Jill remembers and she still needs her boy to reignite the family biz. Lots of talk about Rudolph Giuliani demanding $1-2M to work a pardon through Trump (without Donald's knowledge), during his first term.
disgruntledemployee Posted December 20, 2024 Author Posted December 20, 2024 Lot of talk about Shadow President Musk, which I'm sure is meant to piss off Trump to over react. PS. Why does Trump want to raise the debt ceiling? I thought he was mandated to bring the budget back into balance.
SurelySerious Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 PS. Why does Trump want to raise the debt ceiling? I thought he was mandated to bring the budget back into balance.He’s not a conservative, so doubt he cares about it. He has a lot of big business whisper in his ear right now, so whatever they want is what sounds good to him this week. Higher debt ceiling, maybe the highest debt ceiling. People are talking about it. They say it. 1
HeloDude Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 37 minutes ago, Negatory said: This forum is about to eat up right wing propaganda stating the government shutdown is the Dem’s fault. Even though it’s a Republican controlled House that didn’t pass a budget bill. Guess it would probably be too embarrassing to admit that President Musk’s tweets to tell republicans to not pass any bills had more impact than First Lady Trump. https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-backed-spending-bill-voted-down-house-with-government-shutdown-looming.amp Saying “President Musk” just further embarrasses the fact that Biden is the president…but that being said, I’ll take Musk on the Trump team any day!
brabus Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Negatory said: right wing propaganda stating the government shutdown is the Dem’s fault It’s on the dems AND the willing GOP participants of the establishment (McConnell, Crenshaw, etc.) The people are sick of all the bullshit pork the aforementioned group shoves in bills - so yeah it is their fault. I will also be happy to see the gov shutdown. We’re fiscally out of control more than anytime in history - it has to stop. 2 3
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