Lord Ratner Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) Might be a way to scare the arab nations into participating in the solution. Or, since this is the common sense administration, it might just be the first public acknowledgment of what we all know. There's no way to make it work with the Palestinians and Gaza. Edited February 5 by Lord Ratner
nsplayr Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, brabus said: That’s a valid concern/negative of the cut with an axe approach. The perfect solution would be to honestly assess which jobs actually *need* to be in person and which jobs have data to support better productivity in office vs. remote. There are plenty of jobs out there that are legitimate for remote work… Exactly. Caught up in all this is the end of federal telework (differs from fully remote positions). My question is why? My ops squadron teleworked once per pay period for jobs where that made sense. My new gig as an AGR over at the Wing previously teleworked twice per pay period for basically everyone since it’s all laptop-heavy staff jobs. Now it’s zero - what will we gain other than everyone having to drive to base more often? This is for full-time, in person, active duty uniformed troops…you can’t say to my face we aren’t working enough hours or in person enough. We worked in person during the entire pandemic, from March 2020 until today, back in the SCIF, taking the fight to America’s enemies. Whenever you cut with an axe, there’s gonna be blood everywhere; it’s not good policy.
brabus Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) My hope is this cleans a lot of rot out, yes with some collateral damage, and they adjust the policy in the not-to-distant future to actually allow for remote work for the “laptop heavy” crowd. Basically it’s a short term attempt to see who takes the bait. But we’ll see. Edited February 5 by brabus
Lawman Posted February 5 Posted February 5 So I guess we're going to take over Gaza. I got to admit, this new season of the Trump show has been *exciting* The problem is the uneducated idiots spinning narratives will take that and just add it as a log to the big bonfire of “we’re becoming a dictatorship!”Anybody who honestly believes we are positioned or ready to conduct such an operation is outside the room with the current force restructuring and belt tightening going on with the force you would need to actually do it. We are cutting massive headcount’s in our brigade combat teams to make do with the new budgets. You don’t do that preparing for a war/occupation/rebuild that requires bodies and not bleeding edge tech.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
Sua Sponte Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) 18 hours ago, ClearedHot said: Hearing there is a bit of a crisis at AFPC as a lot of civilians are quitting over the return to work mandate. Didn't realize they had that many work from home types. Also hearing the staff at TPS got hammered, they are all remote. Not at ARPC. It’s important to note that people are interchangeably using “remote” vs “telecommuting,” when they’re not the same. Edited February 5 by Sua Sponte
gearhog Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) 6 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: Might be a way to scare the arab nations into participating in the solution. Or, since this is the common sense administration, it might just be the first public acknowledgment of what we all know. There's no way to make it work with the Palestinians and Gaza. If you watch the clip and zoom in on Bibi when Trump makes this statement. He was completely blindsided. Bibi visits Trump, discusses a few issues, and thinks he's got it all figured out. Then Trump does what Trump does... puts the other side of the negotiating table on their heels with something wild. Trump is completely comfortable doing this sort of thing in public, and Netanyahu is forced to stand behind the podium and try to not react. Trump is telling him that if we're going to fund Israel, we're getting something of material value out of it. Has Netanyahu himself addressed this since the press breifing? No, because he doesn't know what to do with it. Hilarious. It's like the tariffs. Trump didn't have to impose them, but he got Canada and Mexico to give up lot of what he wanted at no extra cost to us. I think the US actually having any ownership in Gaza is insane and I don't want any involvement in that mess, but using it as leverage is brilliant. https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1886932839393796540 Edited February 5 by gearhog 1 1
Banzai Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) If trump threatened the UK with nukes tomorrow, it seems like people would find a way to call it a “brilliant” negotiating strategy. Edited February 5 by Banzai 1
SocialD Posted February 5 Posted February 5 9 hours ago, brabus said: That’s a valid concern/negative of the cut with an axe approach. The perfect solution would be to honestly assess which jobs actually *need* to be in person and which jobs have data to support better productivity in office vs. remote. There are plenty of jobs out there that are legitimate for remote work, but as helodude pointed out, this is probably just a mechanism to reduce the bloated gov, which needs to be done, but certainly sucks to lose good ones in the process. I think helo is right, it's more about downsizing than anything. Unfortunately a few some good ones may get caught up in the cross fire, but cost of doing business I suppose. They good ones will end up on their feet for sure, they always do. 1 2
gearhog Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Banzai said: If trump threatened the UK with nukes tomorrow, it seems like people would find a way to call it a “brilliant” negotiating strategy. Ridiculous deranged hyperbole. He's not threatening violence. 1
SocialD Posted February 5 Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, gearhog said: Ridiculous deranged hyperbole. He's not threatening violence. It's like the FB thread for my company where the TDS folks are saying unions are going away because they fired someone on the NLRB. 1 1 1
disgruntledemployee Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 10 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: So I guess we're going to take over Gaza. I got to admit, this new season of the Trump show has been *exciting* 😂🤣 Fucking, epically fucking retarded! Not only will it not end well, but it won't ever end. That area is history's epic version of Hatfield vs McCoy and it will never end. And he wants to gut places like the FBI and CIA. Next, some dipshit reporter wrote that Rs think they can wrangle him in. Bullshit. I've seen that movie before. I don't think I'll do my taxes this year and set my withholding to 0. Who's gonna come after me? All those IRSers sitting border guard? The govt is getting hollowed out. Many here may be rooting for the house to burn down. When it gets to your room (VA benefits, retired pay, Tricare, DoD bennies) don't freak out too much. If Rs want to show any spine, they should spike the noms for both Kennedy and Gabbard. Send a message. 3
SurelySerious Posted February 5 Posted February 5 ing, epically ing retarded! Not only will it not end well, but it won't ever end. That area is history's epic version of Hatfield vs McCoy and it will never end. And he wants to gut places like the FBI and CIA. Next, some dipshit reporter wrote that Rs think they can wrangle him in. Bullshit. I've seen that movie before. I don't think I'll do my taxes this year and set my withholding to 0. Who's gonna come after me? All those IRSers sitting border guard? The govt is getting hollowed out. Many here may be rooting for the house to burn down. When it gets to your room (VA benefits, retired pay, Tricare, DoD bennies) don't freak out too much. If Rs want to show any spine, they should spike the noms for both Kennedy and Gabbard. Send a message.No, no, I’d like to try nation building in another desert wasteland. 1
HeloDude Posted February 5 Posted February 5 15 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said: I don't think I'll do my taxes this year and set my withholding to 0. Who's gonna come after me? All those IRSers sitting border guard? The govt is getting hollowed out. People never tried cheating on their taxes before 2025? Also, I’m willing to bet a sizable amount of money that you’ll pay your taxes (the IRS cares much more that you pay your taxes, not that you file them)…so your example is as weak as your threat. Also your TDS is once again noted. 1 2
Blue Posted February 5 Posted February 5 10 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: Might be a way to scare the arab nations into participating in the solution. This. Also, isn't the latest "Take over Gaza!" comment just Trump 101? When he's struggling to get the needle moving on a particular situation, he throws out the most extreme option. The press laps it up, and broadcasts it as far as they can. Frenzy ensues. It's chaotic, but often the end result is that stubborn needle begins to move, as Trump quietly walks back the original "extreme" plan. 6
brabus Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) This is most likely Trump doing his thing to elicit desired responses from other nations, just like with tariff threats. That said, if we truly go through with “full up” nation building, well fuck that. All for destroying people/things over there if required for our security, but outside of that, I simply DGAF about those people and the shitholes they’ve built for themselves, it’s not our problem. Edited February 5 by brabus 1
Smokin Posted February 5 Posted February 5 He initially pressed the Arab nations to take the Palestinians, which they have basically refused to do since 1947 and still refuse to do. Hopefully, this is a shot across the bow that the other countries in that region need to chip in and figure out a real long term solution before the US basically turns Gaza into a Middle East Hong Kong. The idea has also been floated of bulldozing the entire strip and just leaving it bare for a while. Hopefully that is what actually happens. Then in 10 years, Israel turns it into a tourist beach resort area and shows the world what the Palestinians could have done but instead chose to elect a government of terrorists more focused on killing other people than providing for their own people. 1 1 2
Sim Posted February 5 Posted February 5 11 hours ago, brabus said: cleans a lot of rot out Here's one take.
disgruntledemployee Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 2 hours ago, HeloDude said: People never tried cheating on their taxes before 2025? Also, I’m willing to bet a sizable amount of money that you’ll pay your taxes (the IRS cares much more that you pay your taxes, not that you file them)…so your example is as weak as your threat. Also your TDS is once again noted. Typical trope. I call out your boy and you call it TDS. Well, when you blindly follow his shit, I'm gonna call it TEW, for Trump Elephant Walkers. My IRS example point is, nobody will be working in the IRS so there's nobody to go after billionaires that cheat on their taxes, let alone me. Try to keep up here.
HeloDude Posted February 5 Posted February 5 16 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said: Typical trope. I call out your boy and you call it TDS. Well, when you blindly follow his shit, I'm gonna call it TEW, for Trump Elephant Walkers. My IRS example point is, nobody will be working in the IRS so there's nobody to go after billionaires that cheat on their taxes, let alone me. Try to keep up here. So your original post about not paying your taxes was lame, as I expected…got it. And you’ve been upset with Trump for several years, so this is just another TDS rant. Your post reminded me of this recent nonsense: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-jersey-governor-houses-migrant-house-tells-feds-good-luck-trying-get-her
disgruntledemployee Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 1 hour ago, HeloDude said: So your original post about not paying your taxes was SATIRE, as I expected…got it. And you’ve been upset with Trump for several years, so this is just another TDS rant. Your post reminded me of this recent nonsense: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-jersey-governor-houses-migrant-house-tells-feds-good-luck-trying-get-her Fify. PS. Since you don't seem to disagree with whatever your boy Trump says, tell me you agree to deploy to Gaza. If retired, you want your F&F/buddies to deploy. Because that's what it sounds like.
Lord Ratner Posted February 5 Posted February 5 7 hours ago, Banzai said: If trump threatened the UK with nukes tomorrow, it seems like people would find a way to call it a “brilliant” negotiating strategy. I get what you're saying, but I will agree with you only once his plans start failing. Right now it's hard to argue that he doesn't have the most effective first weeks of presidency, maybe of any president ever. That doesn't mean you have to agree with what he's accomplishing, but if you measure success by accomplishing the things you're setting out to do, he is absolutely crushing it in less than a month.
Lord Ratner Posted February 5 Posted February 5 4 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said: Fucking, epically fucking retarded! Not only will it not end well, but it won't ever end. That area is history's epic version of Hatfield vs McCoy and it will never end. And he wants to gut places like the FBI and CIA. Next, some dipshit reporter wrote that Rs think they can wrangle him in. Bullshit. I've seen that movie before. I don't think I'll do my taxes this year and set my withholding to 0. Who's gonna come after me? All those IRSers sitting border guard? The govt is getting hollowed out. Many here may be rooting for the house to burn down. When it gets to your room (VA benefits, retired pay, Tricare, DoD bennies) don't freak out too much. If Rs want to show any spine, they should spike the noms for both Kennedy and Gabbard. Send a message. Hey bud, you've been wrong on pretty much everything. So maybe take a backseat and see if it pans out. We've been sitting around for decades watching The Establishment fail to get anything done but insist that theirs was the only way of doing things. Now someone comes in and "revolutionizes" politics by doing nothing more dan saying what everybody knows but won't admit, and actually acting like the most powerful country in the history of the planet, and everybody is stumbling over their keyboards to tell us how this couldn't possibly work. So far it's working. Let the man cook. 1 1 2
HeloDude Posted February 5 Posted February 5 13 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said: Fify. PS. Since you don't seem to disagree with whatever your boy Trump says, tell me you agree to deploy to Gaza. If retired, you want your F&F/buddies to deploy. Because that's what it sounds like. I’m retired bro lol. As for people deploying to anywhere for any reason, yeah, that’s part of the job—whether we like it or not. That all be said, when Trump deploys troops take control of Gaza, I’ll eat my words. But since you’re so concerned, let’s make a bet if that will happen in the next 1-2 year. What are your terms?
GrndPndr Posted February 5 Posted February 5 4 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said: Fucking, epically fucking retarded! Not only will it not end well, but it won't ever end. That area is history's epic version of Hatfield vs McCoy and it will never end. And he wants to gut places like the FBI and CIA. Next, some dipshit reporter wrote that Rs think they can wrangle him in. Bullshit. I've seen that movie before. I don't think I'll do my taxes this year and set my withholding to 0. Who's gonna come after me? All those IRSers sitting border guard? The govt is getting hollowed out. Many here may be rooting for the house to burn down. When it gets to your room (VA benefits, retired pay, Tricare, DoD bennies) don't freak out too much. If Rs want to show any spine, they should spike the noms for both Kennedy and Gabbard. Send a message. It sounds like you know what it will look like (in Gaza) under the Trump management of Gaza. Can you please share with us, what it looks like to you (bases, troops, bulldozers or hotels, just what?)
disgruntledemployee Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, HeloDude said: I’m retired bro lol. As for people deploying to anywhere for any reason, yeah, that’s part of the job—whether we like it or not. That all be said, when Trump deploys troops take control of Gaza, I’ll eat my words. But since you’re so concerned, let’s make a bet if that will happen in the next 1-2 year. What are your terms? Bud, I don't want to bet that he does it. I don't want him trying to make that happen at all. We don't need more reason for the ME to put their hate upon us. If he does, I imagine Marines in barracks in Beirut. And then we have to respond. And down the rabbit hole we go. Trump pledged America First. Why can he just stick to that? What happens in Gaza pretty much stays there, save the silly students that stage a protest at Berkeley. Why does he need to stick our nose in their shit? What's the goal, stop the flow of Gazan fentanyl? Increase the flow of Gazan oil? What is the US vital strategic importance of Gaza? Thus, I want enough Americans, especially MAGAs, to say, WTF dude.
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