BashiChuni Posted Sunday at 06:14 PM Posted Sunday at 06:14 PM 15 minutes ago, chase said: Right into personally attacking me, huh? I never implied I’m not on your side, whatever that is. The guy is literally a talking head on Russian-paid state TV. Standing by for ANY facts or discussion about the conflict and way forward…
disgruntledemployee Posted Sunday at 06:17 PM Author Posted Sunday at 06:17 PM 13 minutes ago, BashiChuni said: by a guy with 11 posts and no evidence of said claim? very rich. again your side throws insults with no historical facts, content, or evidence. might be a clue that you're being deceived. how about you address the points mr. sachs made? any rebuttals to his claims? or just insults? 2 2 1
BashiChuni Posted Sunday at 07:01 PM Posted Sunday at 07:01 PM You guys have nothing but an emotional argument. Emotional arguments don’t hold up to logical, reason based facts. Sad.
Lord Ratner Posted Sunday at 07:23 PM Posted Sunday at 07:23 PM 19 minutes ago, BashiChuni said: You guys have nothing but an emotional argument. Emotional arguments don’t hold up to logical, reason based facts. Sad. Or, arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. You just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like you won the match. There are more interesting people to converse with here. Though you are occasionally amusing. 4 2
gearhog Posted Sunday at 07:33 PM Posted Sunday at 07:33 PM (edited) Please keep us updated, @SurelySerious @Sua Sponte. What a predicament. On 2/27/2025 at 3:17 PM, Sua Sponte said: First, the DoD said to hold off responding. Second, federal employees don’t work for Elon. How about you send me five bullet of what you did last week so I can run it through AI and have it determine if you should be fired from your job. On 2/27/2025 at 2:54 PM, SurelySerious said: Bullshit. It’s just utter stupidity phishing to waste millions of people’s time. Like every bad manager in the AF that steals time for total nonsense. https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1896280128432623774 Edited Sunday at 07:53 PM by gearhog
BashiChuni Posted Sunday at 08:04 PM Posted Sunday at 08:04 PM 40 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said: Or, arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. You just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like you won the match. There are more interesting people to converse with here. Though you are occasionally amusing. Again. You have nothing to refute just insults and emotions.
SurelySerious Posted Sunday at 08:46 PM Posted Sunday at 08:46 PM Please keep us updated, [mention=7998]SurelySerious[/mention] [mention=79687]Sua Sponte[/mention]. What a predicament. https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1896280128432623774Still all bullshit busy work. Taking more time away from subordinates reaping no gains. That’s bad business.
HeloDude Posted Sunday at 10:40 PM Posted Sunday at 10:40 PM 1 hour ago, SurelySerious said: Still all bullshit busy work. Taking more time away from subordinates reaping no gains. That’s bad business. How long do you think this would (or should) take the average DoD civilian?
BashiChuni Posted Sunday at 10:42 PM Posted Sunday at 10:42 PM 1 hour ago, SurelySerious said: Still all bullshit busy work. Taking more time away from subordinates reaping no gains. That’s bad business. thoughts and prayers
SurelySerious Posted Sunday at 10:43 PM Posted Sunday at 10:43 PM How long do you think this would (or should) take the average DoD civilian? I simply don’t care how long it would take, it’s still wasted man hours for no gain. Directed from someone (Musk) with no authority, to boot. Fraud, Waste, Abuse.
SurelySerious Posted Sunday at 10:46 PM Posted Sunday at 10:46 PM thoughts and prayersCommissioned officer bro, OPM can’t fire me.
HeloDude Posted Sunday at 10:47 PM Posted Sunday at 10:47 PM 3 minutes ago, SurelySerious said: I simply don’t care how long it would take, it’s still wasted man hours for no gain. Directed from someone (Musk) with no authority, to boot. Fraud, Waste, Abuse. So it’s “busy work” but you can’t tell me how long you think it will or should take? And I’m pretty sure the SecDef just directed it, did he not?
SurelySerious Posted Sunday at 10:50 PM Posted Sunday at 10:50 PM So it’s “busy work” but you can’t tell me how long you think it will or should take? And I’m pretty sure the SecDef just directed it, did he not?It is by definition busy work, regardless of the amount of time. Musk even said it himself in a tweet. Just because it only takes X amount of time doesn’t make it right. You want to participate in Elon’s loyalty test (and I must assume you’re a DoD civilian then, because that’s what Hegseth said), by all means. Join the Party.
HeloDude Posted Sunday at 11:01 PM Posted Sunday at 11:01 PM 2 minutes ago, SurelySerious said: It is by definition busy work, regardless of the amount of time. Musk even said it himself in a tweet. Just because it only takes X amount of time doesn’t make it right. You want to participate in Elon’s loyalty test (and I must assume you’re a DoD civilian then, because that’s what Hegseth said), by all means. Join the Party. Why would I have wanted to be a government civilian after doing 20+ years in the military? I already had to work with them once lol. To be fair, I supervised a few awesome government civilians. When it came to the others, many were average, and quite a few I would have loved to have had them quit. I have little doubt this task would take any of the awesome/average civilians more than 15 minutes. Again, SecDef is requiring it, so it’s most definitely now being required by the boss. Side note—the ones who were average at best were always the ones asking about time off awards and the “60 minute rule”.
SurelySerious Posted Sunday at 11:04 PM Posted Sunday at 11:04 PM Why would I have wanted to be a government civilian after doing 20+ years in the military? Guess I was confused why you were so into an OPM mandate. Have fun with that retirement, then.
Sua Sponte Posted Monday at 12:29 AM Posted Monday at 12:29 AM 1 hour ago, HeloDude said: How long do you think this would (or should) take the average DoD civilian? That depends. Do they work in a SCIF? Are they the UPC? Are they the SES in TRANSCOM? It’s also not a “pulse check” when they want it every Monday.
Sua Sponte Posted Monday at 12:47 AM Posted Monday at 12:47 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, HeloDude said: Why would I have wanted to be a government civilian after doing 20+ years in the military? I already had to work with them once lol. To be fair, I supervised a few awesome government civilians. When it came to the others, many were average, and quite a few I would have loved to have had them quit. I have little doubt this task would take any of the awesome/average civilians more than 15 minutes. Again, SecDef is requiring it, so it’s most definitely now being required by the boss. Side note—the ones who were average at best were always the ones asking about time off awards and the “60 minute rule”. Most of the helicopters pilots I met while I was in the USAF, especially at Fairchild, were either retarded, deaf, or both. I did meet a few who weren't, but that was a rarity. Thanks for your subjective POV. Edited Monday at 12:52 AM by Sua Sponte
Smokin Posted Monday at 01:28 AM Posted Monday at 01:28 AM I never worked for an exec, but I did receive taskers like this. Me saying "I don't work for the exec" and ignoring him would be stupid because clearly the exec was doing something on behalf of his boss, who was my boss's boss. I also find it more than a little funny that most of the people complaining about this have spent 100X more time complaining about it than just doing it. This is like listening to my kids complain for an hour about homework that only takes them 5 minutes once they stop fussing and just do it. This does not violate your oath of office and should not violate your morals, so stop whining, just do it, and move on with your life. 1
RASH Posted Monday at 02:19 AM Posted Monday at 02:19 AM State quals, or STFUSent from my iPad using Baseops Network mobile app
BashiChuni Posted Monday at 02:25 AM Posted Monday at 02:25 AM 3 hours ago, SurelySerious said: Commissioned officer bro, OPM can’t fire me. stunning and brave
BashiChuni Posted Monday at 02:30 AM Posted Monday at 02:30 AM 10 minutes ago, RASH said: State quals, or STFU Sent from my iPad using Baseops Network mobile app are you nsplayr's sock!? 🫢
HU&W Posted Monday at 03:20 AM Posted Monday at 03:20 AM Wasting one minute of every civilian employees’ time costs a little over $1 million. 10 minutes per week costs the taxpayers over $10m per week. Maybe the manpower cuts will result in lower costs per minute. Maybe the waste from this activity will be worthwhile, but it’s not costless. 1 1
Lord Ratner Posted Monday at 04:22 AM Posted Monday at 04:22 AM 58 minutes ago, HU&W said: Wasting one minute of every civilian employees’ time costs a little over $1 million. 10 minutes per week costs the taxpayers over $10m per week. Maybe the manpower cuts will result in lower costs per minute. Maybe the waste from this activity will be worthwhile, but it’s not costless. Implying that the government civilian workforce is working so thoroughly and efficiently that there is not 10 minutes per week in their schedule to add a simple repetitive task is quite the assumption. Some are. Most are not.
HeloDude Posted Monday at 06:49 AM Posted Monday at 06:49 AM 6 hours ago, Sua Sponte said: Most of the helicopters pilots I met while I was in the USAF, especially at Fairchild, were either retarded, deaf, or both. I did meet a few who weren't, but that was a rarity. Thanks for your subjective POV. If that makes you feel better to say, then feel free to say it again.
Lord Ratner Posted Monday at 03:43 PM Posted Monday at 03:43 PM 12 hours ago, HU&W said: Wasting one minute of every civilian employees’ time costs a little over $1 million. 10 minutes per week costs the taxpayers over $10m per week. Maybe the manpower cuts will result in lower costs per minute. Maybe the waste from this activity will be worthwhile, but it’s not costless. Assuming $125,000 per year as the average cost of a federal employee (which seems low with all the available benefits and potential retirements, only a ~4,200 reduction in the workforce would make up the $10M/week
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