BashiChuni Posted March 2 Posted March 2 15 minutes ago, chase said: Right into personally attacking me, huh? I never implied I’m not on your side, whatever that is. The guy is literally a talking head on Russian-paid state TV. Standing by for ANY facts or discussion about the conflict and way forward…
disgruntledemployee Posted March 2 Author Posted March 2 13 minutes ago, BashiChuni said: by a guy with 11 posts and no evidence of said claim? very rich. again your side throws insults with no historical facts, content, or evidence. might be a clue that you're being deceived. how about you address the points mr. sachs made? any rebuttals to his claims? or just insults? 2 2 1
BashiChuni Posted March 2 Posted March 2 You guys have nothing but an emotional argument. Emotional arguments don’t hold up to logical, reason based facts. Sad.
Lord Ratner Posted March 2 Posted March 2 19 minutes ago, BashiChuni said: You guys have nothing but an emotional argument. Emotional arguments don’t hold up to logical, reason based facts. Sad. Or, arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. You just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like you won the match. There are more interesting people to converse with here. Though you are occasionally amusing. 4 2
gearhog Posted March 2 Posted March 2 (edited) Please keep us updated, @SurelySerious @Sua Sponte. What a predicament. On 2/27/2025 at 3:17 PM, Sua Sponte said: First, the DoD said to hold off responding. Second, federal employees don’t work for Elon. How about you send me five bullet of what you did last week so I can run it through AI and have it determine if you should be fired from your job. On 2/27/2025 at 2:54 PM, SurelySerious said: Bullshit. It’s just utter stupidity phishing to waste millions of people’s time. Like every bad manager in the AF that steals time for total nonsense. https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1896280128432623774 Edited March 2 by gearhog
BashiChuni Posted March 2 Posted March 2 40 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said: Or, arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. You just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like you won the match. There are more interesting people to converse with here. Though you are occasionally amusing. Again. You have nothing to refute just insults and emotions.
SurelySerious Posted March 2 Posted March 2 Please keep us updated, [mention=7998]SurelySerious[/mention] [mention=79687]Sua Sponte[/mention]. What a predicament. https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1896280128432623774Still all bullshit busy work. Taking more time away from subordinates reaping no gains. That’s bad business.
HeloDude Posted March 2 Posted March 2 1 hour ago, SurelySerious said: Still all bullshit busy work. Taking more time away from subordinates reaping no gains. That’s bad business. How long do you think this would (or should) take the average DoD civilian?
BashiChuni Posted March 2 Posted March 2 1 hour ago, SurelySerious said: Still all bullshit busy work. Taking more time away from subordinates reaping no gains. That’s bad business. thoughts and prayers
SurelySerious Posted March 2 Posted March 2 How long do you think this would (or should) take the average DoD civilian? I simply don’t care how long it would take, it’s still wasted man hours for no gain. Directed from someone (Musk) with no authority, to boot. Fraud, Waste, Abuse.
SurelySerious Posted March 2 Posted March 2 thoughts and prayersCommissioned officer bro, OPM can’t fire me.
HeloDude Posted March 2 Posted March 2 3 minutes ago, SurelySerious said: I simply don’t care how long it would take, it’s still wasted man hours for no gain. Directed from someone (Musk) with no authority, to boot. Fraud, Waste, Abuse. So it’s “busy work” but you can’t tell me how long you think it will or should take? And I’m pretty sure the SecDef just directed it, did he not?
SurelySerious Posted March 2 Posted March 2 So it’s “busy work” but you can’t tell me how long you think it will or should take? And I’m pretty sure the SecDef just directed it, did he not?It is by definition busy work, regardless of the amount of time. Musk even said it himself in a tweet. Just because it only takes X amount of time doesn’t make it right. You want to participate in Elon’s loyalty test (and I must assume you’re a DoD civilian then, because that’s what Hegseth said), by all means. Join the Party.
HeloDude Posted March 2 Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, SurelySerious said: It is by definition busy work, regardless of the amount of time. Musk even said it himself in a tweet. Just because it only takes X amount of time doesn’t make it right. You want to participate in Elon’s loyalty test (and I must assume you’re a DoD civilian then, because that’s what Hegseth said), by all means. Join the Party. Why would I have wanted to be a government civilian after doing 20+ years in the military? I already had to work with them once lol. To be fair, I supervised a few awesome government civilians. When it came to the others, many were average, and quite a few I would have loved to have had them quit. I have little doubt this task would take any of the awesome/average civilians more than 15 minutes. Again, SecDef is requiring it, so it’s most definitely now being required by the boss. Side note—the ones who were average at best were always the ones asking about time off awards and the “60 minute rule”.
SurelySerious Posted March 2 Posted March 2 Why would I have wanted to be a government civilian after doing 20+ years in the military? Guess I was confused why you were so into an OPM mandate. Have fun with that retirement, then.
Sua Sponte Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 hour ago, HeloDude said: How long do you think this would (or should) take the average DoD civilian? That depends. Do they work in a SCIF? Are they the UPC? Are they the SES in TRANSCOM? It’s also not a “pulse check” when they want it every Monday.
Sua Sponte Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, HeloDude said: Why would I have wanted to be a government civilian after doing 20+ years in the military? I already had to work with them once lol. To be fair, I supervised a few awesome government civilians. When it came to the others, many were average, and quite a few I would have loved to have had them quit. I have little doubt this task would take any of the awesome/average civilians more than 15 minutes. Again, SecDef is requiring it, so it’s most definitely now being required by the boss. Side note—the ones who were average at best were always the ones asking about time off awards and the “60 minute rule”. Most of the helicopters pilots I met while I was in the USAF, especially at Fairchild, were either retarded, deaf, or both. I did meet a few who weren't, but that was a rarity. Thanks for your subjective POV. Edited March 3 by Sua Sponte
Smokin Posted March 3 Posted March 3 I never worked for an exec, but I did receive taskers like this. Me saying "I don't work for the exec" and ignoring him would be stupid because clearly the exec was doing something on behalf of his boss, who was my boss's boss. I also find it more than a little funny that most of the people complaining about this have spent 100X more time complaining about it than just doing it. This is like listening to my kids complain for an hour about homework that only takes them 5 minutes once they stop fussing and just do it. This does not violate your oath of office and should not violate your morals, so stop whining, just do it, and move on with your life. 1
RASH Posted March 3 Posted March 3 State quals, or STFUSent from my iPad using Baseops Network mobile app
BashiChuni Posted March 3 Posted March 3 3 hours ago, SurelySerious said: Commissioned officer bro, OPM can’t fire me. stunning and brave
BashiChuni Posted March 3 Posted March 3 10 minutes ago, RASH said: State quals, or STFU Sent from my iPad using Baseops Network mobile app are you nsplayr's sock!? 🫢
HU&W Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Wasting one minute of every civilian employees’ time costs a little over $1 million. 10 minutes per week costs the taxpayers over $10m per week. Maybe the manpower cuts will result in lower costs per minute. Maybe the waste from this activity will be worthwhile, but it’s not costless. 1 1
Lord Ratner Posted March 3 Posted March 3 58 minutes ago, HU&W said: Wasting one minute of every civilian employees’ time costs a little over $1 million. 10 minutes per week costs the taxpayers over $10m per week. Maybe the manpower cuts will result in lower costs per minute. Maybe the waste from this activity will be worthwhile, but it’s not costless. Implying that the government civilian workforce is working so thoroughly and efficiently that there is not 10 minutes per week in their schedule to add a simple repetitive task is quite the assumption. Some are. Most are not.
HeloDude Posted March 3 Posted March 3 6 hours ago, Sua Sponte said: Most of the helicopters pilots I met while I was in the USAF, especially at Fairchild, were either retarded, deaf, or both. I did meet a few who weren't, but that was a rarity. Thanks for your subjective POV. If that makes you feel better to say, then feel free to say it again.
Lord Ratner Posted Monday at 03:43 PM Posted Monday at 03:43 PM 12 hours ago, HU&W said: Wasting one minute of every civilian employees’ time costs a little over $1 million. 10 minutes per week costs the taxpayers over $10m per week. Maybe the manpower cuts will result in lower costs per minute. Maybe the waste from this activity will be worthwhile, but it’s not costless. Assuming $125,000 per year as the average cost of a federal employee (which seems low with all the available benefits and potential retirements, only a ~4,200 reduction in the workforce would make up the $10M/week
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