The Next President is...

[ClearedHot]

11 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

Which one? I've graduated from a few.

Same, including Harvard which was an ass tear of indoctrination, but I digress.

11 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

He did, and then a federal judge via due process said he could be deported, but not to where he's from. He was deported to where he's from, thus breaking a court order. An immigration judge gave him due process by a hearing to determine if he can be deported back to where he's from (he couldn't).

Lets rationally discuss this, I won't call you an activist Libtard, don't call me a Magahat (for the record I don't believe either of us fall in those categories.

First and foremost, I am a rule of law guy and I agree, there was supposed to be due process (it separates us from the savages), and there was a a deportation order just not back to country of origin as you pointed out.  Did they break the order, yes.  The explanation is it was an error, I am hoping that is true because BOTH sides should about lawful orders...again the savages part.

I think there is a bigger discussion about activist judges like this.  While I am NOT in favor of impeaching a judge simply because you don't like his or her ruling, there is something fundamentally wrong when a single person (who was not even elected), can stop federal policy...even the President doesn't have that much authority in most cases.  The situation is exacerbated when appellants go judge shopping.  Even the 12 circuit courts are made up of panels...we have to fix that part of the system.

It is disingenuous for EITHER side to scream rule of law when BOTH sides do it.  Lets be real, maybe I missed it, but I don't recall you objecting when Biden opened the border or when he forgave student debt - Even when SCOTUS told him he couldn't!

At the end of the day we have to find some middle ground, I believe that is what the framers wanted....discussion, compromise, logical thought and finally an agreement in the middle.

[busdriver]

One of the things that may (hopefully) come out of Trump 2.0 is the branches re-asserting their independence.  

There are parts of the judiciary doing it now, Rand and Kaine are starting to push back against tariffs.  

Each branch jealousy guarding its power is exactly what the framers wanted.

[Day Man]

who would've guessed a guy who bankrupted a casino wasn't great at business 🤷‍♂️

[BashiChuni]

1 minute ago, Day Man said:

who would've guessed a guy who bankrupted a casino wasn't great at business 🤷‍♂️

hopefully you sold all your stock in a panic!!!

 

[17D_guy]

1 hour ago, busdriver said:

One of the things that may (hopefully) come out of Trump 2.0 is the branches re-asserting their independence.  

There are parts of the judiciary doing it now, Rand and Kaine are starting to push back against tariffs.  

Each branch jealousy guarding its power is exactly what the framers wanted.

With the R reps dodging town halls and refusing to pick up the phone when asked to do just that...highly unlikely while Trump is a supposed king maker.

Never mind what happened mid-terms in 2018 I guess.

[brickhistory]

6 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

With the R reps dodging town halls and refusing to pick up the phone when asked to do just that...highly unlikely while Trump is a supposed king maker.

Never mind what happened mid-terms in 2018 I guess.

Now do the 2024 town halls held by the losing side.  Nothing about screening of audience, pre-planted questions, edited replies, etc.  

Also, do I assume you were good with Biden (actually his handlers) demanding and the press accepting to have his very few press events complete with previously supplied questions?

And say, who's paying for those townhall agitators?  If only there were media reports about the funding of the "grass root" protestors. 

Valid point regarding midterms.  Hence why Trump has about 15 months or so to move the needle significantly to avoid a 2026 midterm loss of the House and/or Senate (not likely).

Also why the district court national injunction-palooza to slow him down.  By the time, it gets to the Supreme Court, where such national decisions by a district court judge should be mooted since it's not in the Constitution at all, the dirt in the Trump gears could have the Left's desired impact.

[SurelySerious]

 

[SurelySerious]

[SurelySerious]

[Sua Sponte]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Same, including Harvard which was an ass tear of indoctrination, but I digress.

Lets rationally discuss this, I won't call you an activist Libtard, don't call me a Magahat (for the record I don't believe either of us fall in those categories.

First and foremost, I am a rule of law guy and I agree, there was supposed to be due process (it separates us from the savages), and there was a a deportation order just not back to country of origin as you pointed out.  Did they break the order, yes.  The explanation is it was an error, I am hoping that is true because BOTH sides should about lawful orders...again the savages part.

I think there is a bigger discussion about activist judges like this.  While I am NOT in favor of impeaching a judge simply because you don't like his or her ruling, there is something fundamentally wrong when a single person (who was not even elected), can stop federal policy...even the President doesn't have that much authority in most cases.  The situation is exacerbated when appellants go judge shopping.  Even the 12 circuit courts are made up of panels...we have to fix that part of the system.

It is disingenuous for EITHER side to scream rule of law when BOTH sides do it.  Lets be real, maybe I missed it, but I don't recall you objecting when Biden opened the border or when he forgave student debt - Even when SCOTUS told him he couldn't!

At the end of the day we have to find some middle ground, I believe that is what the framers wanted....discussion, compromise, logical thought and finally an agreement in the middle.

At least Ted Kaczynski was a Harvard graduate. I'm a Georgetown graduate, so unfortunately we have Bill Clinton. I agree; let's rationally discuss this. It wasn't so much as the government breaking the court order; it was their response to the court of "Well, we broke the order due to an administrative mistake, but now he's in El Salvador, so he's out of our jurisdiction, oh well." When an issue, especially a complex one, is brought in front of the court a lot of times it takes a while for the court to digest the issues and issue a ruling, it's not always going to happen via a filed motion or oral argument. If it's a permanent injunction, then due process allows one to appeal to a higher court. 

Let's not act like the government, both Dem and GOP administrations, don't go judge (really forum) shopping. The current DOJ filed asking for a declaratory judgment in West Texas stating that it should be allowed to terminate collective bargaining agreements between eight agencies and dozens of affiliates of the American Federation of Government Employees. Why in West Texas? Because there was a 100% chance of being (and has been) assigned to a Trump-appointed district judge, and where any appeal goes to the Fifth Circuit.

I guess you missed it where I voted for Trump (I'm an independent in Colorado like most voters are; I can vote for either) largely due to Biden's laissez-faire immigration policy that was dictated by progressive NGOs. Both can be wrong; we need to stop with whataboutism. The Signalgate stuff should've been handled by the Trump Admin saying, "We fucked up, we're sorry, won't happen again." But that's never going to happen because Trump doesn't apologize and/or admit fault, and neither will his cabinet. 

Working across the aisle, being civil, and compromising by being bipartisan largely died when Ted Kennedy and John McCain did. That doesn't "sell" to the voters. It's "us versus them, winners and losers, etc." If the DNC wins the midterms, and especially in 2028, we're going to see the undoing of Trump's changes by the government swinging violently to the left. The only people who are going to suffer are the American people.

[HeloDude]

2 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

Never mind what happened mid-terms in 2018 I guess.

The GOP gained Senate seats?

[disgruntledemployee]

3 hours ago, Day Man said:

who would've guessed a guy who bankrupted a casino wasn't great at business 🤷‍♂️

All this fucking around with people's life savings is epically retarded.  The GOP will get flushed in the midterms. 

Screw it, I'm loading up on SQQQ

[lloyd christmas]

43 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said:

All this fucking around with people's life savings is epically retarded.  The GOP will get flushed in the midterms. 

Screw it, I'm loading up on SQQQ

We will see how well this post ages.  There will be a lot happening between now and then.  

For the elderly or those about to retire, I’m sure the markets are extremely stressful right now.

For me, I feel a strange sense of peace now.  Not because I trust this administration more than another, but because I’ve watched all the various internet and media driven hysterical narratives just fall apart year after year.   Our society is completely divided culturally.  On one side there is reality and on the other there is an emotionally driven, hyperbolic, hateful and easily manipulated side.  A side that allows itself to continue to be manipulated.  That goes for both sides of the aisle.

The economy will be just fine.  I’m betting it will actually be much better in the end. 

It’s a really good time to invest in America’s markets.   

[BashiChuni]

anytime the vix spikes above 30 has historically been a GREAT time to be buying...

[17D_guy]

5 hours ago, brickhistory said:

Now do the 2024 town halls held by the losing side.  Nothing about screening of audience, pre-planted questions, edited replies, etc.  

Also, do I assume you were good with Biden (actually his handlers) demanding and the press accepting to have his very few press events complete with previously supplied questions?

And say, who's paying for those townhall agitators?  If only there were media reports about the funding of the "grass root" protestors. 

Valid point regarding midterms.  Hence why Trump has about 15 months or so to move the needle significantly to avoid a 2026 midterm loss of the House and/or Senate (not likely).

Also why the district court national injunction-palooza to slow him down.  By the time, it gets to the Supreme Court, where such national decisions by a district court judge should be mooted since it's not in the Constitution at all, the dirt in the Trump gears could have the Left's desired impact.

Love the whataboutism, I thought you guys were the party of values except now two wrongs make a right?

Curtis, one of our senators held a "virtual townhall" no questions, just a 30-min lecture via zoom then 5-min spots to privately ask him questions which all just happened to be full when signups were released. Mike Lee's phone doesn't even get answered. 

Nope, not a fan of the lack of press events, not a fan of him running again, not a fan of Harris not going through a primary, not a fan of their lack of a message to resonate with actual people, not a fan with the centralization of electoral and fundraising processes, not a fan of their stupid "political talk" they always start doing, not a fan of them abandoning the states. Next question.

Paying for townhall agitators, lol. How's the Qanon posts doing these days? You think all the townhalls have paid agitators? Like there aren't people who're upset with what's happening and the Congress abdicating their responsibility as a co-equal part of the gov't. We had one here for Blake Moore, and two down in SLC. No paid agitators, just pissed off people. My area the large employers are the Base, IRS, BLM/Interior. CDC on base just closed due to funding cuts, the probationary job cuts, IRS had the return to work order (that failed and they've stopped), AF DOD employees are taking a cut to locality pay on top of the hiring freeze and promotions being halted. That's on top of them all being told their lazy leeches. But I guess "someone" has got to pay people to show up at townhalls and be upset? Most logical of you.

That Kansas senator who went out into the boonies to do his meet-and-greet, yea those looked like a lot of "paid agitators" as well. But if it makes you feel better to imagine a deep "Soros funded anti-townhall army" go ahead. I know nothing will convince you otherwise anyway. 

Besides, people are just acting the same way your God-King has showed us to act since 2016. Why should we be civil and respectful if that consideration is never returned? Next.

Acting like Sleepy Joe didn't have injunctions against him as well. No other president has tried to magnify executive power in our history, no shit there's going to be a lot of injunctions. That's cause and effect and the whole point of having a judiciary that isn't beholden to the executive: to determine if what they do is legal...looks like a lot of it isn't, or if it is it needs to be proven and not taken at face value.

[GrndPndr]

3 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

All this fucking around with people's life savings is epically retarded.  The GOP will get flushed in the midterms. 

Screw it, I'm loading up on SQQQ

Sounds like a good time to buy.  LOL

PS: I'm going to buy some shares this afternoon, might wait until tomorrow.

[Day Man]

1 hour ago, BashiChuni said:

anytime the vix spikes above 30 has historically been a GREAT time to be buying...

historically admins knew how to figure out an actual foreign tariff rate too 

[SurelySerious]

[Banzai]

7 hours ago, SurelySerious said:

 

@BashiChuni @Boomer6

What do you not like about this? The tariff rates published by the White House are literally the trade deficit ratios (with a minimum blanket rate).

I find it especially hilarious that because of this blanket simple math, they are instituting tariffs on places like uninhabited islands (Heard and McDonald island) and islands which are literally only inhabited by US/UK military personnel (Diego Garcia) 😂

Drove past a few of these bad boys a couple weeks ago, and you’ve gotta admit, stock prices are low. Promise made, promise kept!

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Banzai

[Sua Sponte]

35 minutes ago, Banzai said:

@BashiChuni @Boomer6

What do you not like about this? The tariff rates published by the White House are literally the trade deficit ratios (with a minimum blanket rate).

I find it especially hilarious that because of this blanket simple math, they are instituting tariffs on places like uninhabited islands (Heard and McDonald island) and islands which are literally only inhabited by US/UK military personnel (Diego Garcia) 😂

Drove past a few of these bad boys a couple weeks ago, and you’ve gotta admit, stock prices are low. Promise made, promise kept!

 

 

[pbar]

I assume everyone complaining about tariffs are just fine with all of the tariffs everyone else puts on our exported stuff.

The basic problem is there are structural problems with the economy but one of the very few tools Trump has to try to fix it are tariffs.  The rest is up to Congress, but regardless of which party controls Congress, nothing gets done (except for some more rigging the game in favor of the elites).  We need to make energy cheaper, pare back the massive, massive overregulation, reform our education system, etc. but none of that is going to happen because Congress is lazy, it's all against the interests of the Dems, and the GOP in Congress lacks any semblance of balls. 

Also, we can't negotiate our way out of the trade war because the State Dept is basically worthless.  When they negotiate anything, they negotiate for what's in the best interest of the State Dept, not the country.  Look at the disastrous free trade agreement we have with South Korea.  

Let's face it, none of the reforms needed are going to happen and we will eventually have an economic collapse due to government overspending and the structural issues with the economy.  But we'll argue and fight over irrelevant social issues all day long (to distract us from the real problems).  

On top of that, our main enemy, China, is eating our lunch and we can't carry out effective countermeasures because half of the country envies and admires the CCP's system.   Our only hope is that China's demographic issues and their economic issues catch up with them before they can really put the screws to us. 

Edited 12 hours ago by pbar

[SurelySerious]

[SurelySerious]

I assume everyone complaining about tariffs are just fine with all of the tariffs everyone else puts on our exported stuff.
The basic problem is there are structural problems with the economy but one of the very few tools Trump has to try to fix it are tariffs.  The rest is up to Congress, but regardless of which party controls Congress, nothing gets done (except for some more rigging the game in favor of the elites).  We need to make energy cheaper, pare back the massive, massive overregulation, reform our education system, etc. but none of that is going to happen because Congress is lazy, it's all against the interests of the Dems, and the GOP in Congress lacks any semblance of balls. 
Also, we can't negotiate our way out of the trade war because the State Dept is basically worthless.  When they negotiate anything, they negotiate for what's in the best interest of the State Dept, not the country.  Look at the disastrous free trade agreement we have with South Korea.  
Let's face it, none of the reforms needed are going to happen and we will eventually have an economic collapse due to government overspending and the structural issues with the economy.  But we'll argue and fight over irrelevant social issues all day long (to distract us from the real problems).  
On top of that, our main enemy, China, is eating our lunch and we can't carry out effective countermeasures because half of the country envies and admires the CCP's system.   Our only hope is that China's demographic issues and their economic issues catch up with them before they can really put the screws to us. 

[Pooter]

This is one of the most epic economic self-owns in history.  I've never seen the right and left so united against anything, but when you propose possibly the most retarded economic plan ever, I guess that's what happens.  I'm so glad we're tariffing Vietnam into oblivion to bring back all those quality t-shirt sweatshop manufacturing jobs. Just happy I'm a long way from retirement and can use it as an opportunity to buy the dip.  

[SocialD]

Maybe some day, those shouting the loudest about what will and what will not work, will actually fix the economic situation we're in.  But from where I'm sitting, they've done nothing but 3x our national debt in the last three decades.