The Next President is...

[brickhistory]

I, too, picked Trump to take 300+ electoral college votes, so I, too, was wrong.  Pity that...

Still some drama to play out and the witch isn't dead yet, so we'll see how it goes.

GOP retains the Senate, adds a fair number in the House.  Enough to probably cause Pelosi to not be elected Speaker of the House next term since her party wants someone other than thousand year olds running things.

 

But, and this a biggie for me, the best thing of this year's election cycle has been that it wasn't Hillary running for re-election.

And with that, I'm reasonably content.

v/r,

another hilfuck Texan

[17D_guy]

5 hours ago, TheLaughingCow said:

It looks like we are in for an extremely weak federal government.

Good.

Didn't want to make another post, but as a statistics nerd 538's analysis has been a lot of fun.

Edited November 4, 2020 by 17D_guy

[17D_guy]

3 hours ago, Guardian said:

Sadly there aren’t many humans worse than Biden / Harris.

What are you basing this on?  Personality, morally, patriotically?

I'm not sure how you have Biden in the same room as Trump, point to Biden and go, "He's the reprehensible one."

[Sim]

49 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

What are you basing this on? 

....4 years of investigation that found nothing. 

While plenty of evidence from Biden corruption, and no investigation. 

[Guardian]

Pretty easy. Over 47 years he has made legislation that targeted minorities. Trump hasn’t. Biden blatantly said that he completely disagreed with the LGBT movement. He has made bad choices against our military, our livelihood. Absolutely poor decisions and came out against measures to protect from covid. Harris is one of the worst people in politics today. She is where she is off bro jobs and hipocracy. They support the riots. Say they aren’t a problem. And also want to change the foundation of our country. The things that make us what we are today in a positive way. She just said that people who have less should get more than successful people. That redistribution should absolutely happen and that is one of the most immoral things imaginable. She is a race bater and both are liars. Not making fun of joes mental decline but that doesn’t make me comfortable to have someone with his lack of mental cognitive ability (which he readily admits he doesn’t stutter)

Just about the worst candidates imaginable.

[17D_guy]

1 minute ago, Guardian said:

Pretty easy. Over 47 years he has made legislation that targeted minorities. Trump hasn’t. Biden blatantly said that he completely disagreed with the LGBT movement. He has made bad choices against our military, our livelihood. Absolutely poor decisions and came out against measures to protect from covid. Harris is one of the worst people in politics today. She is where she is off bro jobs and hipocracy. They support the riots. Say they aren’t a problem. And also want to change the foundation of our country. The things that make us what we are today in a positive way. She just said that people who have less should get more than successful people. That redistribution should absolutely happen and that is one of the most immoral things imaginable. She is a race bater and both are liars. Not making fun of joes mental decline but that doesn’t make me comfortable to have someone with his lack of mental cognitive ability (which he readily admits he doesn’t stutter)

Just about the worst candidates imaginable.

I crossed out Harris for a reason.  Keeping this on Biden. 

So it's a purely political thing for you then?  Trump hasn't been in a position to do those things politically, but has done some awful things commercially/personally.  Those get a wash?  LGBT movement...a lot of current politicians disagreed with (ex. Pence, Obama, Dubya, etc.).  I'm not versed enough in his politics for "bad choices" on the military.

I guess the point I'm trying to understand (from red to blue) is how you can think him, as an individual, as a bad person compared to Trump. Not as a politician, he's been in gov't far to long to be "clean," but Trump's lack of politics just means I include what he was doing during that time.  At least I'd think they'd be even.

sidenote - the reddit meltdown is glorious.

[kaputt]

1 hour ago, 17D_guy said:

I crossed out Harris for a reason.  Keeping this on Biden. 

So it's a purely political thing for you then?  Trump hasn't been in a position to do those things politically, but has done some awful things commercially/personally.  Those get a wash?  LGBT movement...a lot of current politicians disagreed with (ex. Pence, Obama, Dubya, etc.).  I'm not versed enough in his politics for "bad choices" on the military.

I guess the point I'm trying to understand (from red to blue) is how you can think him, as an individual, as a bad person compared to Trump. Not as a politician, he's been in gov't far to long to be "clean," but Trump's lack of politics just means I include what he was doing during that time.  At least I'd think they'd be even.

sidenote - the reddit meltdown is glorious.

I don’t think he once said Trump is a better person than Biden or even compared him to Trump at all. In fact, he explicitly said people are making their voting decision based on personality and not policy record, and that’s the problem. 

Edit: and even if by some measure Trump is a bad person, it still doesn’t mean that Biden isn’t also a terrible person  

 

 

Edited November 5, 2020 by kaputt

[M2]

4 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

i'm not even worried about her. its the radical element of the party that will have influence (warren, sanders, AOC(super hot, great rack))

It's always the bat shit crazy ones...

But how in the hell did anyone think she would be a good U.S. Representative?!?  And why in the hell would anyone vote for her again?

Our political system is fucked.

[Breckey]

Georgia elected a U.S. Representative who believes a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles is running a global child sex-trafficking ring and plotting against President  Trump. People vote for her or AOC for the same reasons people vote for any candidate. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by Breckey

[Negatory]

1 hour ago, M2 said:

It's always the bat shit crazy ones...

But how in the hell did anyone think she would be a good U.S. Representative?!?  And why in the hell would anyone vote for her again?

Our political system is ed.

I mean, she represents her base, isn’t that what a representative is supposed to do? She has insane policies but I don’t think you can fault her on job performance. If you wanna fault anyone, fault the voters.

[HercDude]

5 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

i'm not even worried about her. its the radical element of the party that will have influence (warren, sanders, AOC...)

Where is the evidence of this?  I'm open to believing this, but I just haven't seen any of it in practice.  The Democrats had an open socialist in the primaries, Elizabeth Warren who is pretty damn close, and several other fringe candidates.  They picked.......Joe Biden?  The dude who was absolutely the most milquetoast generic centrist out of the 20-odd candidates?  What *evidence* is there that a President Biden will be powerless to stand up to a junior congresswoman from New York?

[ViperMan]

9 hours ago, VMFA187 said:

Biden wins. Trump has/will win GA, NC, and PA. He must then win either MI or WI and will win neither. 

The plus side is I think this buys more for Conservatives in the long term like the article someone posted here (I think.) Fortunately Conservatives maintain control of the Senate which means Biden/Kamala can't really accomplish much of their leftist agenda. But in two and four years there will be a big swing back right from what is arguably already center, which shows how biased the MSM is. 

I saw something similar today and it rang true with me, as well (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-biden-democrats-reckoning-generation-matt-gorman).

Edit (another good one): https://theweek.com/articles/947824/left-just-got-crushed

From the article:

Quote

"While the final numbers may still be in flux, Democrats on Capitol Hill are no longer going to get their liberal Christmas list passed through Congress and, even worse, are about to face a reckoning unlike any they’ve had in a generation—no matter who wins the White House.

Let’s get a status update on the top priorities for Schumer and Pelosi:

Packing the Supreme Court? Dead on arrival.

Eliminating the filibuster? Nope.

Tax hikes. Not going to happen."

And I tend to agree. Having Trump in office for another four years would be delicious if only for the unending YouTube stream of leftist children reeeeeeeeeing, but honestly, Trump may have served his purpose, which was killing the Clinton machine, upending the Obama years, and shining a black light on what is our politics. The next four years spent with a fully ineffectual democratic president who can't mumble his way through a teleprompter and a vice president who is in way over her head will serve the conservative cause much more in the long run.

Edited November 5, 2020 by ViperMan
spacing; added link

[kaputt]

28 minutes ago, HercDude said:

Where is the evidence of this?  I'm open to believing this, but I just haven't seen any of it in practice.  The Democrats had an open socialist in the primaries, Elizabeth Warren who is pretty damn close, and several other fringe candidates.  They picked.......Joe Biden?  The dude who was absolutely the most milquetoast generic centrist out of the 20-odd candidates?  What *evidence* is there that a President Biden will be powerless to stand up to a junior congresswoman from New York?

That’s exactly why they picked him. His outward appearance is of a moderate. His mental decline however can’t be denied and I highly doubt that major portions of the Democrat party didn’t see that as an opportunity. His health will either deteriorate to the point that he ends up resigning or the radical portions of the left will pull the strings and use teleprompter reading Joe as the mouthpiece. 
 

Admittedly, the R’s making gains in the house and holding the line in the Senate makes it much harder on the dems to implement their plans. 

[jrizzell]

5 minutes ago, kaputt said:

holding the line in the Senate makes it much harder on the dems to implement their plans. 

If the Republicans can hold a majority in the Senate...A 50-50 split and VP is tie breaking vote on bills 🤞

[dream big]

3 hours ago, M2 said:

It's always the bat shit crazy ones...

But how in the hell did anyone think she would be a good U.S. Representative?!?  And why in the hell would anyone vote for her again?

Our political system is fucked.

Have you ever been to New York? Spend some time there and you’ll realize why occasional cortex is their darling comrade. 

[Waingro]

1 hour ago, dream big said:

Have you ever been to New York? Spend some time there and you’ll realize why occasional cortex is their darling comrade. 

Don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you're subscribing to silly playground nicknames. I'd be embarrassed if my 9 year-old did that, and it's that much more cringey when adults do it. 

[ClearedHot]

4 hours ago, Waingro said:

Don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you're subscribing to silly playground nicknames. I'd be embarrassed if my 9 year-old did that, and it's that much more cringey when adults do it. 

You mean like Callsigns...

[FLEA]

8 hours ago, dream big said:

Have you ever been to New York? Spend some time there and you’ll realize why occasional cortex is their darling comrade. 

I'm going to be honest. Politically I detest her. We couldn't be more opposite on so many things. I also don't think she has all of her platforms well thought out. I do not think she's stupid though, just not as expereinced. We take for granted sometimes as officers we have a broad understanding of government, and policy. But at the end of the day, none of us ran for office, and she did. 

Morally though I somewhat admire her. She was unhappy with her circumstances, ran an extremely fierce campaign as an under dog, and stood strongly in front of a wave of criticism on everything from her background to her looks from opponents that would not take her seriously. This ultimately backfired, because now you have to take her seriously. Whether you like to admit it or not, she has political pull and influence. That equates to power, and so long as she had power, she matters. Would love to see some younger Republicans generate the same energy but they largely just don't exist. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by FLEA

[pcola]

He’s been mentioned here several times before. But I’ll echo. Dan Crenshaw has that kind of energy. But because he’s not a lib, he doesn’t get anywhere near the same media coverage and subsequent followers. But this guy, as a congressman, still has the capacity to generate more podcasts than I can find time to listen too. And every one that I hear is good. Everyone reading this thread should subscribe, regardless of your political beliefs. He’s a level headed voice of conservative reasoning.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hold-these-truths-with-dan-crenshaw/id1498149200



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[FLEA]

10 minutes ago, pcola said:

He’s been mentioned here several times before. But I’ll echo. Dan Crenshaw has that kind of energy. But because he’s not a lib, he doesn’t get anywhere near the same media coverage and subsequent followers. But this guy, as a congressman, still has the capacity to generate more podcasts than I can find time to listen too. And every one that I hear is good. Everyone reading this thread should subscribe, regardless of your political beliefs. He’s a level headed voice of conservative reasoning.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hold-these-truths-with-dan-crenshaw/id1498149200



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I do like Dan Crenshaw a lot but you are right that he has difficulty generating media coverage. 

Maybe Madison Cawthorn can be a face for younger Republicans as well but the dude has too many question marks in his background right now to be a sure face for the party. 

[Majestik Møøse]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

You mean like Callsigns...

But there are rules!

[Prozac]

Honestly, I think AOC gets far more media attention from FOXNews and Breitbart than from most “mainstream” sources. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by Prozac
Comprehension

[arg]

Bouncing boobies at 1:25 in the AOC video.

[Seadogs]

I don't know guys, this is getting pretty close. Don't call Trump out yet. 

[17D_guy]

1 hour ago, Seadogs said:

I don't know guys, this is getting pretty close. Don't call Trump out yet. 

Getting?  It has been, and will be close.  I'm looking forward to seeing the margins that whomever wins each state wins by.  10K voters, 5K somewhere...maybe less.  I think that's cool, and our process is cool.  I hate that it's already getting called a fraud, largest turnout...ever?...and "fraud."  R's picking up more minority votes (good thing)...also fraud?  Ben Shapiro very right on his calls about this whole thing.