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[VMFA187]

22 hours ago, lloyd christmas said:

The definition of election fraud has changed.  Pay close attention to what Elon Musk is exposing.  

The truth always come out.  

I don't know how this isn't getting more attention. It is mind blowing. 

[Biff_T]

They will all "hang" themselves.   Lol

[Prozac]

On 12/21/2022 at 11:20 AM, lloyd christmas said:

The definition of election fraud has changed.  Pay close attention to what Elon Musk is exposing.  

The truth always come out.  

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that there are a lot of Americans who don’t put too much stock in what a guy who lets the internet vote him out of a job has to say. Same goes for pillow salesmen. Same goes for washed up mayors yelling on dildo factory street corners. Same goes for gay frog fear mongers. I get the right doesn’t trust the “mainstream” media. I even get why. What I don’t get is why people think Scott Baio & Alex Jones are going to somehow give them the truth. 

[FLEA]

1 hour ago, Prozac said:

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that there are a lot of Americans who don’t put too much stock in what a guy who lets the internet vote him out of a job has to say. Same goes for pillow salesmen. Same goes for washed up mayors yelling on dildo factory street corners. Same goes for gay frog fear mongers. I get the right doesn’t trust the “mainstream” media. I even get why. What I don’t get is why people think Scott Baio & Alex Jones are going to somehow give them the truth. 

Prozac that's a bunch of partisan bull and you know it. This isn't a case of "Elon Musk said this happened...." This is a case of "Elon Musk released an archive of direct correspondence between the DNC, FBI and Twitter board officers to journalist who then published it in its original form." 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2022 by FLEA

[Guest LumberjackAxe]

The GOP encouraged Trump to launch NFT trading cards because they want him to alienate himself on his own, so it'll be easier for them to put DeSantis on the ticket. They don't want Trump again but they can't disown him, they got him to own himself.

[brabus]

11 minutes ago, LumberjackAxe said:

The GOP encouraged Trump to launch NFT trading cards because they want him to alienate himself on his own, so it'll be easier for them to put DeSantis on the ticket. They don't want Trump again but they can't disown him, they got him to own himself.

I hope they're that clever, and this move (and moves like it) accomplish that end state.  But the skeptic in me says this wasn't some epic play by the GOP, and at best they just got lucky. The other question is IF Trump is pushed aside and doesn't make it as the nominee, does Trump's hardcore base still get out and vote? I hope they're paying attention enough to know voting is crucial, even if it's for DeSantis and not Trump (for example), and not voting is the epitome of cutting off the nose to spite the face. But again, I'm not so confident in them doing the correct, unemotional thing.

[filthy_liar]

On 12/21/2022 at 1:40 AM, dream big said:

Most Americans want a government that leaves them the hell alone and protects/values American ideals.

I wished I agreed with you, but I don't believe I do.  Maybe in day to day nuanced situations.  But most Americans are urban/suburban dwellers, living by HOA covenants and all kinds of rules.  Doesn't make them evil by any stretch, but it certainly makes them dependent on a gov't mechanism that ensures they are fed if Kroger gets shut down for whatever reason.  Same for fuel, water, electricity, security, etc.  

I work in the city and live in a rural area.  They are basically two different countries.  Where I live nobody sweated it when the shelves were empty and the gas pumps were turned off due to some kind of hacking incident (IIRC).  Again, doesn't make the other 80% bad or wrong (people get amazingly defensive when I talk about urban/suburban vs rural living), but it makes them very much more dependent on the gov't ensuring that essential needs are met when things go bad for whatever reason.

[Biff_T]

21 hours ago, brabus said:

I hope they're that clever, and this move (and moves like it) accomplish that end state.  But the skeptic in me says this wasn't some epic play by the GOP, and at best they just got lucky. The other question is IF Trump is pushed aside and doesn't make it as the nominee, does Trump's hardcore base still get out and vote? I hope they're paying attention enough to know voting is crucial, even if it's for DeSantis and not Trump (for example), and not voting is the epitome of cutting off the nose to spite the face. But again, I'm not so confident in them doing the correct, unemotional thing.

[Lord Ratner]

On 12/16/2022 at 7:31 PM, Prozac said:

Time to admit that DJT was not, is not, and never will be representative of what we stand for as a country.

And Hillary or Joe are?

 

What country have you been living in? I've had to choose between different flavors of shit sandwich since, well, my whole adulthood. A lot of people decided that they'd rather have the narcissistic profiteering liar who seems to at least love the idea of America over the narcissistic profiteering liar who doesn't.

 

I think Romney was the only post-primary candidate since Bush/Gore who was worthy of the seat since I've been voting.

Edited December 25, 2022 by Lord Ratner

[Sim]

Rand Paul is the only choice for the  sanity.

Or a big FU to the establishment and do Trump again. 

[Smokin]

Rand Paul would be a bigger FU to the establishment than Trump and far more effective.  And would be about the only thing that could get our country back on the right track.

[brabus]

I would love for the GOP primaries to come down to deciding between Paul and Desantis - that would actually be different than the usual turd sandwich vs. douche choice.

[ClearedHot]

Double Standard Much?

At least 10 classified documents were found Biden's time as VP found in his private office at his think tank (Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington).  I am happy to see CNN step up and troll Biden with his own words, I am sure his mouth piece will spin this and make it Trump's fault.  Very interesting that these documents were discovered two months ago, BEFORE the mid-terms, but they just released it now.  I wonder when DOJ will launch a midnight raid and search the White House?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/joe-biden-classified-documents-upenn/index.html

 

[slc]

Welcome to the party pal!!!  Holding my breath on that raid.........

[Lawman]

Double Standard Much?
At least 10 classified documents were found Biden's time as VP found in his private office at his think tank (Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington).  I am happy to see CNN step up and troll Biden with his own words, I am sure his mouth piece will spin this and make it Trump's fault.  Very interesting that these documents were discovered two months ago, BEFORE the mid-terms, but they just released it now.  I wonder when DOJ will launch a midnight raid and search the White House?
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/joe-biden-classified-documents-upenn/index.html
 

Oh it’s ok… it was in a GSA approved closet… That’s like totally secure storage.


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[FLEA]

4 hours ago, Lawman said:

Oh it’s ok… it was in a GSA approved closet… That’s like totally secure storage.


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Is it made by same people that make the GSA approved home bathroom e-mail servers?

[Lawman]

Is it made by same people that make the GSA approved home bathroom e-mail servers?

I’m just gonna start taking my hard drives home and keeping them in my gun safe… imagine the work I could get done if I didn’t waste time getting them from the big vault we have to keep all our shit in that I’m not collocated with.


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[kaputt]

Standing by for the FBI raid of the Biden household.

[Biff_T]

38 minutes ago, kaputt said:

Standing by for the FBI raid of the Biden household.

Standing by for them to find out that he's really been dead since 2019 and they've been pulling a "Weekend at Bernie's" on us this whole time.  

 

[ClearedHot]

A second set of classified documents has now been found.  The first set reportedly contained TSI/SCI SAR/SAP.  Where is the outrage?  CNN/MSDNC/and the other extensions of the DNC were not even covering it.  I think ABC finally broke down and had to acknowledge.  Odds he has a secret server in the basement of his Delaware beachouse...

[Prozac]

3 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

CNN/MSDNC/and the other extensions of the DNC were not even covering it. 

Huh? All over CNN man. And yeah, hope they get to the bottom of it. Obviously we have a systemic problem with high level officials handling classified. 

[ClearedHot]

38 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Huh? All over CNN man.

Now....earlier it most CERTAINLY was not.  I was sitting with a large group of folks and for the first few hours after it broke all the people around me were actually going between CNN/MSNBC and Foxnews/WSJ.  CNN and MSDNC were still leading (on air and on the website), about the efforts to get Santos to resign.  ABC was the first to crack and NOW of course the others will follow.

38 minutes ago, Prozac said:

And yeah, hope they get to the bottom of it. Obviously we have a systemic problem with high level officials handling classified. 

So you agree, a group of FBI agents should raid Biden's Delaware house tonight to see what might be stashed at that location.

 

Look at the front page of Yahoo RIGHT NOW.  Nothing about the documents but two articles critical of the GOP.

 

 

[HeloDude]

Yeah…CNN is reporting it and is definitely not trying to spin this as Biden is good and Trump is bad.

[Prozac]

2 hours ago, HeloDude said:

Yeah…CNN is reporting it and is definitely not trying to spin this as Biden is good and Trump is bad.

Any of those facts in dispute? 

[FourFans]

50 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Any of those facts in dispute? 

Do any of them actually make a difference?  ANY classified material outside a secured environment, not to mention SCI, should equal severe consequences.  One standard.  The end.

Seriously.  Imagine realizing you had TS/SCI/SAP info in your closet at home.  What would get you first, the police or the heart attack?  

Edited January 12, 2023 by FourFans130