The Next President is...

[Day Man]

8 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Disgusting.

did it bother you as much when trump did it?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/03/helene-trump-politics-natural-disaster-00182419

https://apnews.com/article/helene-hurricane-damage-fema-trump-biden-harris-e5c1feed690765bac4d7096ce9dceb96

[raimius]

48 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Today we have ANOTHER demonstration of the EVIL that the DNC has become.  They seem to have no limits to their contempt and corruption.  We started down an ugly path under Obama when the IRS started targeting conservative groups.  They malfeasance grew when the FBI invented FISA warrants to spy on a Presidential candidate,  Then the intelligence community sought to suppress what they knew was a real laptop story.   When the DOJ decided to wage  lawfare against a political opponent I thought we found the limit of their evil...sadly we now they will punish individual Americans in their greatest time of need, simply because they have a different political ideology. 

FEMA official removed from role for directing hurricane relief away from Trump supporters' homes 

This traitor actually instructed workers canvassing Lake Placid in Florida to "avoid homes advertising Trump."  What evil must circle in his consciousness.  Interestingly he was only "removed" from his role but remains an employee of FEMA. 

Disgusting.

Sounds like a good 1st Amendment lawsuit...maybe even criminal charges.

[ClearedHot]

51 minutes ago, Day Man said:

did it bother you as much when trump did it?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/03/helene-trump-politics-natural-disaster-00182419

https://apnews.com/article/helene-hurricane-damage-fema-trump-biden-harris-e5c1feed690765bac4d7096ce9dceb96

Your standard tactic when confronted with the horrific actions of your party...counter with something a FORMER aide said he did. You can never admit of confront the evil.  Trump sucks, I've said it a thousand times, but the DNC has no limits to what they will do to retain power.

[tac airlifter]

3 hours ago, Day Man said:

did it bother you as much when trump did it?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/03/helene-trump-politics-natural-disaster-00182419

https://apnews.com/article/helene-hurricane-damage-fema-trump-biden-harris-e5c1feed690765bac4d7096ce9dceb96

Those articles are garbage.  It asserts a truth (Trump deliberately delayed disaster aide to PR) without providing requisite evidence to convince the reader.  An article that says something doesn’t make it true; haven’t you seen this same playbook enough times to recognize it?  Give some critical thinking to the links you provided and try seeing them through the eyes of a skeptic; are they still the mic drop evidence you initially thought they were?

 You find me a Trump supporter on record ordering aid to avoid areas overtly favoring democrat politicians and I’ll say there’s equivalency, but neither link even comes close to that threshold.

[TreeA10]

An update shows the FEMA employee has been fired.  "Trump supporters are evil so therefore I'm doing this for the team" is the same mindset as the IRS employee and the other 3 letter organizations. That mindset is a direct result of the higher ups in the organization. This person would not have done this if she didn't think she would not suffer repercussions.  I'm not sure how deep Trump can fire people to restore fair and objective thinking but he needs to use the biggest cutting implement he can get his orange hands on.

 

Edited Sunday at 10:15 AM by TreeA10

[nunya]

I'm probably jaded but I keep reading "fired from her position." Is she still on FEMA payroll and just not in her previous position until the news cycle moves on? I sure hope not.

Edited Saturday at 11:06 PM by nunya

[TreeA10]

29 minutes ago, nunya said:

I'm probably jaded but I keep reading "fired from her position." Is she still on FEMA payroll and just not in her previous position until the news cycle moves on? I sure hope not.

Good point.  Kind of like what the definition of "is" is.

[herkbum]

I'm probably jaded but I keep reading "fired from her position." Is she still on FEMA payroll and just not in her previous position until the news cycle moves on? I sure hope not.

This is my question as well


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[Day Man]

6 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Your standard tactic when confronted with the horrific actions of your party...counter with something a FORMER aide said he did. You can never admit of confront the evil.  Trump sucks, I've said it a thousand times, but the DNC has no limits to what they will do to retain power.

my party? I'm as much a democrat as trump is a republican (hint: I'm not). you can say "trump sucks" as many times as you want, but when you support him at every turn it falls on deaf ears.

4 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

Those articles are garbage.  It asserts a truth (Trump deliberately delayed disaster aide to PR) without providing requisite evidence to convince the reader.  An article that says something doesn’t make it true; haven’t you seen this same playbook enough times to recognize it?  Give some critical thinking to the links you provided and try seeing them through the eyes of a skeptic; are they still the mic drop evidence you initially thought they were?

 You find me a Trump supporter on record ordering aid to avoid areas overtly favoring democrat politicians and I’ll say there’s equivalency, but neither link even comes close to that threshold.

there was a whole OIG report about it, but ok. speaking of critical thinking: what's your opinion of why he stole a bunch of TS documents (without whataboutism of sleepy joe having a box in his garage)? all of a sudden he's a student of national defense? the ability of some of you guys to completely overlook this natsec issue will forever boggle my mind. insert something about "mean tweets" to justify...🙄

[Negatory]

I want to echo ClearedHot here and say “Orange Man not my favorite.” But with that being said, I’d also like to say that his TS/SCI/SAP documents he stored at his house and lied about are NOTHING COMPARED TO HILLARY OR BIDEN. Have you seen the DNC lately? They recently tried to make me have gay sex with a transvestite immigrant. Fuck democrats.

Thats the forum, buddy.

[ViperMan]

20 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

I think it has more to do with Dems stepped on their dick big time and know it.  Shoving a candidate down people's throat hasn't worked yet, but they keep doing it.

It's integral to their world-view, though. They view any requisite to success as one big chemistry experiment that will work if you only mix the precise, perfect ratios of sex, gender, race, and other immutable qualities to garner of perfect reaction of human achievement. To me, it doesn't seem like there's a rational reason to believe such a crazy thing, but that's their shtick. So I would expect them to keep doing it.

23 hours ago, Pooter said:

I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised with how the dems have taken this absolute ass whooping. Lots of hysterics online and on the talk shows, but the people that mattered respected the process, conceded in a timely fashion, and honestly did a lot to de-escalate and re-instill trust in our election process right now. Honestly I’m really thankful for this outcome because I’m positive a trump loss would not have garnered the same reaction from republicans, and it would have gotten very bad.  

The left has shown a shocking amount of maturity and done something I think most of the maga crowd is incapable of right now: accepting election results that didn’t go their way.

Having said that.. I’m fully prepared to be proven wrong by the dems as soon as they regroup enough to concoct the next grand conspiracy about the right, probably involving them all somehow being nazis. 

I have too, honestly. I saw plenty of dems on the news shows with the seeds of self-reflection taking root...I just hope those little roots hold strong. They probably won't as it's more likely that it's just a shock reaction - sort of like the one where you get punched really hard in the cranium and need a second or two to regroup. That's the unfortunate, more likely reality, and we'll probably be back to more of the black bloc that we saw during the COVID riots in 2020.

[Smokin]

People don't have to like Trump to have picked him over Harris.  I don't like him at all and think he's generally a bad person.  But I prefer his views on government over those of Harris (who is also a bad person in my opinion).  I know there are some die hard supporters that ignore/justify everything bad he has done (and he's done plenty of bad things), but I would bet the majority of people that voted for him are not in that category.  He's personally done plenty of bad things and I disagree with many of his policies, but as often happens in these arguments, people can point out just as many bad things the other side does.  So, it all comes down to which policies do you support, and which bad things they do are reasonable to overlook.  He's a narcissist and I think the majority of what he does/says is to seek approval rather than following his beliefs.  But, the left has engaged in absurd levels of law-fare, demonized half the country, overtly supported castrating kids and taking those kids away from parents that don't support the government castrating their kids.  I'll take the narcissist over someone that wants to give my kids castration drugs without my approval.

[ClearedHot]

8 hours ago, Smokin said:

People don't have to like Trump to have picked him over Harris.  I don't like him at all and think he's generally a bad person.  But I prefer his views on government over those of Harris (who is also a bad person in my opinion).  I know there are some die hard supporters that ignore/justify everything bad he has done (and he's done plenty of bad things), but I would bet the majority of people that voted for him are not in that category.  He's personally done plenty of bad things and I disagree with many of his policies, but as often happens in these arguments, people can point out just as many bad things the other side does.  So, it all comes down to which policies do you support, and which bad things they do are reasonable to overlook.  He's a narcissist and I think the majority of what he does/says is to seek approval rather than following his beliefs.  But, the left has engaged in absurd levels of law-fare, demonized half the country, overtly supported castrating kids and taking those kids away from parents that don't support the government castrating their kids.  I'll take the narcissist over someone that wants to give my kids castration drugs without my approval.

This and they just can't accept this rationale so they cry like all the yentas on the view.

[tac airlifter]

11 hours ago, Day Man said:

what's your opinion of why he stole a bunch of TS documents (without whataboutism of sleepy joe having a box in his garage)? all of a sudden he's a student of national defense? the ability of some of you guys to completely overlook this natsec issue….🙄

I have no opinion on his motivations for mishandling classified documents, what kind of response were you expecting?  I don’t know the man.  And who said he’s a student of national defense?  WTF are you talking about?

 

10 hours ago, Negatory said:

 I’d also like to say that his TS/SCI/SAP documents he stored at his house and lied about…

Mishandling classified is a crime.  That’s bad and I don’t support or condone it.  However selective prosecution of crime is worse.  A lot of what you guys simplistically label “whatabout-ism” is legitimate anger at double standards.  If the law is the law and people who break it are punished (including Trump) then great!  But democrats didn’t offer that, instead they offered lawfare against their political opponents, censoring free speech, men in womens sports, hate crimes for Christian’s praying outside abortion clinics and bail for looters burning police stations.  Most of this nation saw it and rejected it. 

[GrndPndr]

14 hours ago, herkbum said:

 

This is my question as well


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Yep, and officially "sh*tcanned."

Free Article:

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/fema-fires-employee-who-told-relief-workers-to-avoid-homes-with-trump-signs-6f9e30f4?st=REN95Y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

[ClearedHot]

13 hours ago, Negatory said:

I want to echo ClearedHot here and say “Orange Man not my favorite.” But with that being said, I’d also like to say that his TS/SCI/SAP documents he stored at his house and lied about are NOTHING COMPARED TO HILLARY OR BIDEN. Have you seen the DNC lately? They recently tried to make me have gay sex with a transvestite immigrant. Fuck democrats.

Thats the forum, buddy.

I want to echo Negatory here and say "Harris is not my favorite" But with that being said, I'd also like to say Orange Man is a fascist Hitler.  Have you seen the GOP lately?  They want closed borders, they object to us paying education, housing and well EVERYTHING for illegals. They think biological men shouldn't play women's sports, they object to lawfare waged against political opponents, they are against removing the genitals of minors without telling parents, they are against forced gun buy backs, they are against taxpayers paying for sex change operations for prison inmates,  they hate inflation, and incredulously, they want to keep the 1st amendment in place.  Fuck Republicans.

That's what you want to forum to be....buddy.

[Lawman]

I went to a very liberal college and I’m usually not that petty with some old friends over how these things go, but the condescending attitudes they’ve had on why it happened…. So I sat down and fired this off into the room like a flash bang.


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[disgruntledemployee]

There are a way whole lot of better people than Trump that can/would do pretty much anything he has promised.  That's been my entire point for this election cycle.

[tac airlifter]

6 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said:

There are a way whole lot of better people than Trump that can/would do pretty much anything he has promised.  That's been my entire point for this election cycle.

But they couldn't secure the nomination.  He did.  So your point is irrelevant.

[kaputt]

1 hour ago, disgruntledemployee said:

There are a way whole lot of better people than Trump that can/would do pretty much anything he has promised.  That's been my entire point for this election cycle.

Should they have forced him to step aside after he won the primary and replaced him with someone who no one voted for? 

Edited Sunday at 06:31 PM by kaputt

[Lawman]

Should they have forced him to step aside after he won the primary and replaced him with someone who no one voted for? 

That’s kind of the weird half factual argument I’ve seen.

Like the guy primary’d… what he didn’t do was go debate. Those aren’t the same thing, but some people want to use it as a qualifier for whether a candidates name can appear on a ballot, but if that’s the way then change the rules for next time.

As much as I didn’t want to do 4 more years of nuclear level chaos energy in everything political, dude is elected.


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[arg]

On 11/8/2024 at 9:23 PM, Pooter said:

I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised with how the dems have taken this absolute ass whooping. Lots of hysterics online and on the talk shows, but the people that mattered respected the process, conceded in a timely fashion, and honestly did a lot to de-escalate and re-instill trust in our election process right now. Honestly I’m really thankful for this outcome because I’m positive a trump loss would not have garnered the same reaction from republicans, and it would have gotten very bad.  

The left has shown a shocking amount of maturity and done something I think most of the maga crowd is incapable of right now: accepting election results that didn’t go their way.

Having said that.. I’m fully prepared to be proven wrong by the dems as soon as they regroup enough to concoct the next grand conspiracy about the right, probably involving them all somehow being nazis. 

[HeloDude]

What the left doesn’t seem to understand, is that Trump won on the majority of the issues, Kamala was a bad candidate, and also that Trump came across as more likely to be the one who could act on those issues.  But yet the left is doubling down on more illegal immigration, men playing on girls sports teams, mutilating young children, higher taxes/more government spending in the name of fighting climate change, etc.  

If you’re going to go against the majority of Americans when it comes to issues that matter most, then you better have a super smooth candidate and/or be up against a candidate that even the opposing party dislikes.  

[M2]

2 hours ago, kaputt said:

Should they have forced him to step aside after he won the primary and replaced him with someone who no one voted for? 

Shack!

[ClearedHot]