The Next President is...

[Sua Sponte]

 

[HeloDude]

2 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

Been hearing about the debt my entire life with promises from Reagan on down to fix it. During that time the wealth divide increased and middle class families that could afford to have a parent at home have been disappearing. Real wages and purchasing power for normal Americans (not you or I) have gone down.

Only a Democratic President balanced the budget and ran a surplus. Trump added more to the deficit before Covid with his cuts. The latest R funding bill adds more to the deficit. But wrap yourself in the "party of fiscal responsibility" while Trump wastes millions golfing more than Obama ever did.

Did you voluntarily return your tax cut under Trump to pay to reduce the debt?  If you didn’t, then why not?

[Banzai]

23 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

Did you voluntarily return your tax cut under Trump to pay to reduce the debt?  If you didn’t, then why not?

Did you refuse to accept your COVID stimulus checks because you oppose government spending? If you didn’t, then why not?

[brabus]

5 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

Just because Elon claims some bullshit on X, that doesn't make it true.

For sure. I don’t believe pretty much anything without evidence, but it is an interesting claim (without proof so far). I’ve also worked on the fed civ side for a bit and supervised civs, so l understand the system. Still have no problem with say, monthly, “what’d you accomplish” reports. I’ve been doing that at two jobs for the last two years. It’s not hard and it’s understandable. 

[nsplayr]

6 minutes ago, brabus said:

For sure. I don’t believe pretty much anything without evidence, but it is an interesting claim (without proof so far). I’ve also worked on the fed civ side for a bit and supervised civs, so l understand the system. Still have no problem with say, monthly, “what’d you accomplish” reports. I’ve been doing that at two jobs for the last two years. It’s not hard and it’s understandable. 

If you are that person's supervisor, I have zero problem with this. It's called "leadership." If folks are underperforming, you talk to them directly, but you also talk to their supervisor, oftentimes there's a lack of direction and leadership.

If we wanna figure out who are the A & B players and RIF some of those below the line, got it. Do that due diligence, give people a chance to shape up via a PIP, and then cut folks who are not meeting the new standards. If you want to reform the civil service with something like Schedule F, Congress is right f*cking there, they will probably pass that if the President wants it!

What is happening now is so far from that it's laughable. A random OPM email sent out over the weekend to over 2 million people, some of whom they have no business emailing in the first place, aint' it. Something something centralized command, decentralized execution...

Even in a "crisis" as some have claimed we're experiencing, here's a list of 5 things leaders shouldn't do (keeping with Elon's theme):

1. Mock & disparage their people
2. Issue illegal orders
3. Flail around and offer contradictory, fire-from-the-hip guidance
4. Employ a random person from outside the organization to order folks around
5. Fail to coordinate among their subordinate departments / sections so that no one knows what's going on

Edited 1 hour ago by nsplayr

[brabus]

4 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

So you failed to FWA report them. Nice.

It wouldn’t have accomplished anything. The 5th time wouldn’t have accomplished anything. That’s how fucked the “damn near can’t fire fed civ” process is. I feel like not a lot of people realize how ridiculous it is. 

[nsplayr]

This is real, no-shit communication from our Commander in Chief. Would you accept this as "leadership" from one of your flight commanders or shop chiefs? From a SQ/CC? From a WG/CC? They would be fired for this level of childish condensation toward the people they themselves are tasked to lead.

[brabus]

2 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

give people a chance to shape up via a PIP, and then cut folks who are not meeting the new standards.

Agree with everything else you said. Just highlighting this comment wildly simplifies a ridiculous process. It’s so far from being as simple as you just made it sound. I think it should be as easy as you made it sound, but that is far from reality. 

[nsplayr]

4 minutes ago, brabus said:

Agree with everything else you said. Just highlighting this comment wildly simplifies a ridiculous process. It’s so far from being as simple as you just made it sound. I think it should be as easy as you made it sound, but that is far from reality. 

Sure, so have the GOP Congress pass schedule F or other similar reforms and make the process better. Has there been any movement on that at all?

Do I trust the current admin to run the process of changing federal civil service protections? Hell no I don't. But I do support some reforms to byzantine way we hire and fire fed civilians, I've seen some of the same stuff you've seen, we all have.

The admin is burning any possible bipartisan goodwill by flagratenly demonstrating right now that it's not about merit, it's not about efficiency, it's not about reforming or improving the process - it's about power and "traumatizing federal workers" so they will quit. Which is very dumb if they want to make any durable changes.

Edited 1 hour ago by nsplayr